Army Recruiters In School

[Che NJ]

There are two soldiers in my school's cafeteria right now. They are asking kids to sign up for their mailing list and give them their names, phone numbers and e-mail adresses. I took a brick of their broceures and threw them away, but I don't think it accomplished much.

This isn't the first time they were here. They were here last year, and they were also recruiting at a big high school track meet in NYC. they are getting really desperate. I see them all over now. Their main target seems to be teenagers, if they get phone numbers, they can bother us our whole lives, I can't believe people are signing up.

Has anybody else seen them in places besides schools, malls and athletic events?

Lunch is over, I'll check back after school.

[workersunity]

get a group of kids, and protest those monkey asses, well they are gone now, but along the lines of no military recruiters on campus, let kids live their own lives

[C_Rasmussen]

Well shit let everything bother you right <_<? I&#39;m not trying to be mean but you have to realize that even the military is a job and like any other job they need to recruit people. I for one dont&#39; agree with the war or any war for that matter but theres more to the military then going to fight.

[Amusing Scrotum]

theres more to the military then going to fight.

Yes there is.

You get to learn and perform various torture techniques, clean your boots till they shine like the sun and most importantly, you learn how to become a complete macho dickhead.

Viva la Army. :lol:

[Ander]

That disgusts me, when the military targets yonger people. If people really wanted to join the army they&#39;d fucking go to it.

[SweatyJerry]

How about a draft instead? Seriously. If everyone&#39;s got a son or daughter to lose every time George has a shit fit and decides somebody&#39;s got to go, everyone&#39;s gonna be a lot less anxious to re-elect the war mongers.

[OleMarxco]

Yeah, well, normally - or atleast, logically - that would&#39;ve been right, but -- MEH&#33; ;)
Everyone&#39;s also glad of the "national honor" of &#39;getting to&#39; send their offspring&#39;s to war and &#39;make something of themselves&#39;. Applyin&#39; to&#39;re good ol&#39; machoistic-testestoron filled picture of the stereotypical G.I. Joe-Soldier...ATLEAST UNTIL THEY FUCKING DIE. Yeah, there&#39;s the death-part in the small letter&#39;s of the clausul....

P.S., Sign up with fake name&#33; :P
And beat the shit out of the Army Recruiter&#39;s if you can. Hah&#33; That&#39;d shake them up...and bring more armed one&#39;s next time. Heh...No petition shit&#39;s here, organized violent resistance, heck, they&#39;d send you into harm&#39;s way allright, so why whimper at the thought? We ain&#39;t no coward&#39;s :D

[Technique3055]

They were in my school. Rather than stealing there brochures, I just give them hell.

One day the Navy came in, and if you listened to their little bullshit for 2 minutes you got yourself a little plastic football. The next day some other group was (I don&#39;t remember), so I go up to them and say:

"Do you guys have footballs."
"Umm...no."
"Well the Army had footballs..."

[Reds]

The no child left behind act gives the millitary the right to view all your personal info.

[rioters bloc]

that&#39;s completely fucked

at the moment i&#39;m in a group running for editorial team of the student publication next year, its basically us [left action] against &#39;united&#39; who are this snotty bunch of reactionary fuckers. anyways, next year massive amounts of funding are going to be cut from the publication so we might have to rely on advertising. we were thinking, computers/stationary/textbooks etc, stuff that might actually be relevant to students

they&#39;re thinking ads to join the army cos they know the military are itching to get these ads in and are willing to pay shitloads of money for the chance to recruit fresh young bodies.

fuckers. i hope we smash them.

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 06:37 PM
The no child left behind act gives the millitary the right to view all your personal info.
And the Opt-Out form gives YOU the right to opt out from them taking all your info from your Counselors. No more phone calls from G.I. Joe begging you to go kill innocent farmers because they be all brown and suspicious.

Here&#39;s the form. Enjoy, Comrades.


http://www.militaryfreezone.org/opt_out

[Che NJ]

One day the Navy came in, and if you listened to their little bullshit for 2 minutes you got yourself a little plastic football. The next day some other group was (I don&#39;t remember), so I go up to them and say:

"Do you guys have footballs."
"Umm...no."
"Well the Army had footballs..."
yeah, they had a whole box of bumper stickers and two more of ARMY mountain climbing carniners. I guess they&#39;re getting us ready for when we attack tibet.

QUOTE (Reds @ Sep 20 2005, 06:37 PM)
The no child left behind act gives the millitary the right to view all your personal info.


And the Opt-Out form gives YOU the right to opt out from them taking all your info from your Counselors. No more phone calls from G.I. Joe begging you to go kill innocent farmers because they be all brown and suspicious.

Here&#39;s the form. Enjoy, Comrades.


http://www.militaryfreezone.org/opt_out
I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if they put everybody who opts out on a terrorist watch list or something. Most opponents to civil liberty argue that if you have nothing to hide, why hide?

[praxis1966]

What you ought to do is petition your school board for a policy that bars against recruitment of any kind by organizations who descriminate on the basis of race, sex, ethnicity, religion, and sexual orientation. I&#39;m sure that they&#39;ll be agreable, since most school boards are elected, and most politicians will jump at the chance to show how egalitarian they are. Most school boards have meetings where the public is invited to attend, so all you have to do is get together enough speakers to convince them that there is a real desire for this sort of thing within the community.

Then you contact your local ACLU or whoever and have them file a class action lawsuit on the students&#39; behalf. Several colleges have already won such suits, and the recruiters are no longer allowed there, except when invited by student organizations. It&#39;s alot of work, but it&#39;s the only way you&#39;ll get them to stop showing up all together.

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by Che [email protected] 20 2005, 07:58 PM

One day the Navy came in, and if you listened to their little bullshit for 2 minutes you got yourself a little plastic football. The next day some other group was (I don&#39;t remember), so I go up to them and say:

"Do you guys have footballs."
"Umm...no."
"Well the Army had footballs..."
yeah, they had a whole box of bumper stickers and two more of ARMY mountain climbing carniners. I guess they&#39;re getting us ready for when we attack tibet.

QUOTE (Reds @ Sep 20 2005, 06:37 PM)
The no child left behind act gives the millitary the right to view all your personal info.


And the Opt-Out form gives YOU the right to opt out from them taking all your info from your Counselors. No more phone calls from G.I. Joe begging you to go kill innocent farmers because they be all brown and suspicious.

Here&#39;s the form. Enjoy, Comrades.


http://www.militaryfreezone.org/opt_out
I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if they put everybody who opts out on a terrorist watch list or something. Most opponents to civil liberty argue that if you have nothing to hide, why hide?
Bahahah, that made me laugh my ass off Comrade :lol:



Also, I too wouldn&#39;t be surprised if they did that. Really, is it beyond them? They would call us traitors to the Republic and Terrorists.


:angry:

[voyagetoinfinity]

i hate when they come to my school....handing out pencils and water bottles and shit. i&#39;m not gonna sign my life away for a pencil and some college money.

[Ander]

Are homosexuals allowed to join the US military? I&#39;m just curious..

[RASH chris]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 01:57 PM
Are homosexuals allowed to join the US military? I&#39;m just curious..
The rule is "don&#39;t ask, don&#39;t tell". There used to be a question on the form when you sign up "are you a homosexual" and if you say yes then you couldn&#39;t join. Now they&#39;re not allowed to ask you, and you&#39;re not allowed to tell anybody. But if they find out you&#39;re gay then they can discharge you.

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by anarchopunkchris+Sep 21 2005, 10:55 AM--> (anarchopunkchris @ Sep 21 2005, 10:55 AM)
[email protected] 21 2005, 01:57 PM
Are homosexuals allowed to join the US military? I&#39;m just curious..
The rule is "don&#39;t ask, don&#39;t tell". There used to be a question on the form when you sign up "are you a homosexual" and if you say yes then you couldn&#39;t join. Now they&#39;re not allowed to ask you, and you&#39;re not allowed to tell anybody. But if they find out you&#39;re gay then they can discharge you. [/b]
Dishonerable Discharge, I might add.

Fucking intolerant pricks. I know a few gay soldiers, and trust me, they wouldn&#39;t hesitate to kill for their country for a second. Nothing wrong with them besides their imperialist morons, but their being gay isn&#39;t wrong at all.

[bezdomni]

Try a counter-recruitment.

[Clarksist]

Try a counter-recruitment.


Exactly. Do whatever you can to stop kids from signing up. Go up to the Army table and ask them about imperialism, and the state of the country. With my hammer & sickle shirt, I went to the Marines who have a table set up in our lunch room at the moment.

Basically, once my friends and I got done with them, lunch was about to end and no one had the chance to sign up. They are the military, so fuck em.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

Why don&#39;t people just say they&#39;re gay instead of having people shoot them to get out of going back to war?

[Reds]

Originally posted by The wise old [email protected] 22 2005, 12:12 AM
Why don&#39;t people just say they&#39;re gay instead of having people shoot them to get out of going back to war?
I dont know if you live in the us or not but were I am most people would prefer to get shot than to be known as a homosexuals.

{that might have to do with the fact that i live in georgia. :D}

[Commie Girl]

Is the U&#036; the only country that allows the recruitment in schools? I find this so horrifying :angry:

[Master Che]

Thats stupid not only wont they find anyone willing to fight who is in good shape. They&#39;ll make themself&#39;s look like Hitler youth recruiters. Why doesnt America just make Robot soldiers that&#39;ll solve the problem for they&#39;re lack of recruitment.(Thank god they havent yet)

[Ultra-Violence]

true commrade they show up at my school all the time and what i do is yell "YANKEE IMPERIALIST" and "BRIAN WASH" all of lunch.

also speaking about the military do any of you have jrotc prgram in schools. cuase in my school we do and the funny thing is that almost all of the kids in thier are "MINORITYS" and i asked one of the sargents about it and he sia it just happens to be a coincidence. :hammer:

[Che NJ]

all sounds good, but they&#39;re gone now. I&#39;ll talk to a guidance councillor or something and see if I can get them to leave, or set up they&#39;re table in the basement. The guidance councillors are pretty cool here. they might help. I don&#39;t think i&#39;m ready to throw a pie in their faces though.

[Ander]

Originally posted by anarchopunkchris+Sep 21 2005, 11:55 AM--> (anarchopunkchris @ Sep 21 2005, 11:55 AM)
[email protected] 21 2005, 01:57 PM
Are homosexuals allowed to join the US military? I&#39;m just curious..
The rule is "don&#39;t ask, don&#39;t tell". There used to be a question on the form when you sign up "are you a homosexual" and if you say yes then you couldn&#39;t join. Now they&#39;re not allowed to ask you, and you&#39;re not allowed to tell anybody. But if they find out you&#39;re gay then they can discharge you. [/b]
That&#39;s really sad. Prejudiced fuckers..

[Dhul Fiqar]

Ehm, you are obviously ALLOWED to tell people you are gay - the principle is that they can&#39;t ask you to and you don&#39;t HAVE to disclose it.

If you do disclose it, you will not serve, however. I also never understood why people didn&#39;t just say they were gay to get out of Vietnam. I mean it beats having to flee the damn country.

Anyway I saw a news segment a while back about recruiters on campus, apparently a lot of them are getting caught breaking the rules. A news station in the U.S. went under cover and got recruiters on tape advising kids not to disclose mental conditions, drug addictions, medical conditions and other things that would disqualify them for service. One guy even signed up a 17 year old who asked if he could use a fake ID :D

--- G.

[Che NJ]

QUOTE (anarchopunkchris @ Sep 21 2005, 11:55 AM)
QUOTE (Jello @ Sep 21 2005, 01:57 PM)
Are homosexuals allowed to join the US military? I&#39;m just curious..


The rule is "don&#39;t ask, don&#39;t tell". There used to be a question on the form when you sign up "are you a homosexual" and if you say yes then you couldn&#39;t join. Now they&#39;re not allowed to ask you, and you&#39;re not allowed to tell anybody. But if they find out you&#39;re gay then they can discharge you.


That&#39;s really sad. Prejudiced fuckers..
I think they recently discharged a significant number of gay arabic translators, which I think is a supid move because they don&#39;t have too many to begin with. If they can&#39;t talk to the country they&#39;re "liberating," they&#39;re in trouble.

[Ander]

Originally posted by Dhul [email protected] 22 2005, 03:45 PM
Anyway I saw a news segment a while back about recruiters on campus, apparently a lot of them are getting caught breaking the rules. A news station in the U.S. went under cover and got recruiters on tape advising kids not to disclose mental conditions, drug addictions, medical conditions and other things that would disqualify them for service. One guy even signed up a 17 year old who asked if he could use a fake ID :D

--- G.
Yeah, I heard about this...it happened a couple months back, right?

[bolshevik butcher]

God, that sounds horrible, recruiters on campus. Dont you get in a lot of trouble for shouting things at them?

[h&s]

Originally posted by Dhul Fiqar+Sep 22 2005, 06:45 PM--> (Dhul Fiqar @ Sep 22 2005, 06:45 PM) I also never understood why people didn&#39;t just say they were gay to get out of Vietnam. I mean it beats having to flee the damn country.
[/b]
Apparently thats what Jimi Hendrix did - he was said to have made advances on the Sargeant Major (though I ahve no idea of the reliablity of this - the book I read it in wasn&#39;t sure whether it was true, but hey - its a good story&#33;)


Commie Girl
Is the U&#036; the only country that allows the recruitment in schools? I find this so horrifying
I don&#39;t know, but at my sixth form, which is also a school, I&#39;ve seen large posters advertising the Navy and army, which reminds me, I keep meaning to rip that one down thats in the computer rooms. <_<

[RedStarMilitia]

that sickens me, those who sign up and die do not get my sympathy - i don&#39;t see how anyone would want to be part of a near totalitarian force that murders innocent people.
ignorant fuckers

[h&s]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2005, 09:48 PM
that sickens me, those who sign up and die do not get my sympathy - i don&#39;t see how anyone would want to be part of a near totalitarian force that murders innocent people.
ignorant fuckers
It sickens you that people are brainwashed? You have to understand the situation that these people come from. Most soldiers come from poor working-class backgrounds where jobs are thin on the ground amd education is sub-standard. The army is seen as a way out, and many people believe what they are told, and sign up.
The system should sicken you, not the victims of it.

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by h&s+Sep 22 2005, 06:13 PM--> (h&s @ Sep 22 2005, 06:13 PM)
[email protected] 22 2005, 09:48 PM
that sickens me, those who sign up and die do not get my sympathy - i don&#39;t see how anyone would want to be part of a near totalitarian force that murders innocent people.
ignorant fuckers
It sickens you that people are brainwashed? You have to understand the situation that these people come from. Most soldiers come from poor working-class backgrounds where jobs are thin on the ground amd education is sub-standard. The army is seen as a way out, and many people believe what they are told, and sign up.
The system should sicken you, not the victims of it. [/b]
Proletariat = good. Proletariat who kills innocents = bad. I don&#39;f care if you&#39;re "brainwashed" or not, you kill an Innocent, I am going to fight the fuck back.

Don&#39;t support the troops, support the Resistance, and hope the Imperialist fuckers die&#33;

[h&s]

I&#39;m not saying &#39;support the troops.&#39; I&#39;m just saying that you should have sympathy with the position that they were in that made them join the army in the first place.
But I am not, ever, going to say that I want them to die, as that is just a totally fucking stupid thing to say. If you say that around the family of a dead soldier, I wouldn&#39;t condemn their response.

[Anarchist Freedom]

Actually yesterday the military recruiters and I got into a face to face argument. He said you fucking anarchists all gather around some ideology and claim it as your own. To which I replied "isn that what the founding fathers did?" TO which he replied you dont know show those fucking arabs in the middle east wont even think twice about killing you. To which I said you honestly think they dont have a damn good fucking reason? I mean wouldnt you be pissed if an occupying army was in your homeland? To which he replied yeah but you dont know how good you have it you should be slapped. To Which I said I have it good but I want others to realize that the reason they have it so bad is because of capitalism and imperialism and you yourself are a direct perpetuationg of a system that pays you to be an assasain.


I got in big trouble for that.

Today I plan to take one of there sheets take it spit on it then drop it on the ground and walk away.

[comradesteele]

we get them in britain sometimes, although the problem is witha "pshe" day personal social heathl education or something, theres is the only thing which is interstesing as you get to do an assault course or something. but they never sign people up or anything, just hand out a few leaflets.

[Korol Aferist]

Argue with them &#33;
and tell each student about the army policies that take a broshure or talk to them.

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by h&[email protected] 23 2005, 04:08 AM
I&#39;m not saying &#39;support the troops.&#39; I&#39;m just saying that you should have sympathy with the position that they were in that made them join the army in the first place.
But I am not, ever, going to say that I want them to die, as that is just a totally fucking stupid thing to say. If you say that around the family of a dead soldier, I wouldn&#39;t condemn their response.
I would rather work at McDonalds than have the death of innocents on my conscience.

Quit defending murderers. I&#39;m sick of it. "They were just following orders&#33;". Oh yeah? Well, here, if I tell you to go kill someone, even though you pulled the trigger, I&#39;m the one that&#39;s gonna get in trouble. It wouldn&#39;t be this way in any other situations, but a bunch of illiterate, racist 18 year old from West Virginia get a pass on that because they&#39;re "defending freedom". Nobody is forcing you to kill innocent Iraqi&#39;s. Nobody forced you to join up. There was no draft here. They all joined BY CHOICE. They are serving Capitalism and Imperialism, and they deserve no less than DEATH&#33;

BULLSHIT.

[refuse_resist]

Originally posted by Commie [email protected] 22 2005, 02:07 AM
Is the U&#036; the only country that allows the recruitment in schools? I find this so horrifying :angry:
Yes, they are everywhere. Back when I was still in school they would constantly come up to me and many others I knew begging us to join the military because if we did we would get all this money for college and all this other crap. Little do most people know, the money they supposedly "give" you for college is money that gets deducted from your regular paycheck. So it&#39;s just another way they sucker people into joining.

Back when I almost joined the army (this was 4 years ago or so) they would call my house 24/7. The recruiter would come to my house at like 7 in the morning and knock on my door and if I didn&#39;t answer he would start calling the house phone.

At this point, the best thing for everyone to do who is encountered by these recruiters is to start organizing against them, as what has been done and is currently being done everywhere. Eventually, if enough people start organizing against them, the students will have the upper hand in deciding whether or not they&#39;re allowed on to campuses and hopefully they will stop showing up.