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Gnosis
25th September 2005, 20:58
To fight in the name of peace is futile.
Peace is silent.
Peace is not fighting.
Peace cannot be divided or destroyed.
The name of peace has been manipulated, distorted, and transformed into hate, anger, and war as a result of selfish conditioning.
But even though we may have been taught to not see peace, or to see peace as something it is not, PEACE will always exist.
Peace is still here and now.
If we stop fighting, if we sit quietly, we will see the peace.
The goel is to become aware of a peaceful nature.
The meaning(s) of objects, feelings, and ideas is contained solely in the mind.
Our minds give meaning to the symbols of life we experience around us and inside us.
Without our conscious understanding of "the universe", that universe we understand does not exist.
See the universe as the peaceful place it is, and you have attained peace.
Fighting will always get in the way of attaining peace, even if you are fighting in the name of peace.
Fighting for peace is futile.
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It is important to examine what it is we truely want from this life experience.
If we "want peace", and we fight for it, it is apparent that we do not want peace, we want fight.
Fighting is never peace, although peace will exist even when a fight is going on.
There is enough universe for both peace and the fight, and so both are possiblities.
It depends on what we choose to be conscious of.
I see peace in a fight because I do not fight.
I do not oppose fighting, I observe fighting with peace in mind, and so I see peace in fighting.
To fight with peace in mind is not to be at peace, it is to be at fight with peace in mind.
To be at peace is to be at peace with peace in mind.
And when I say "peace in mind", I do not mean an abstract concept under the manipulation of a selfish ego, I mean an absence of ego, an absence of fight, and the consciousness of inner and outer calm and peace.
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Action and Result.
Cause and Effect.
Two concepts inseperable.
Example:
The effects on this country of September 11 are the the same actions which caused it to happen in the first place.
Fighting amongst humans is the cause, and fighting amongst humans is the effect.
The cause of peace is the same as the result of peace.
It is peace which causes peace, it is peace which results in peace.
Peace is never war, though war can appear peaceful when the right goggles are put on.
Those symbolic goggles represent a learned and conditioned ego.
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Fighting "revolution" is both a cause and an effect of war.
"War" is both a cause and an effect of fighting revolution.
To wage a revolution in the name of peace, and then fight war to see that the revolution is a success is not peaceful and will not bring peace until it is over.
When the war is over, it appears as though we have won peace through fighting, but we have not.
We win peace through being peaceful.
This is an example of an imbalance of ideology and behavior.
To kill in the name of killing is an example of both action and ideology being in balance.
When there is no seperation in action and ideology, we are working under the influence of pure will.
Will shall be complete as there is no seperation or conflict.
To attempt to manipulate the world under an incomplete will brings incomplete results.
Incomplete cause wills incomplete effect.
Imbalanced ideology and behavior is a cause and effect of an imbalnced society whose speeches and actions are not what they claim to be or be in the name of.
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To fight a war for reasons other than to fight a war expresses a lack of balance in a society.
To love someone for reasons other than to love someone expresses an imbalance in a personality.
It is hard to say what is wrong and what is right, but it is easy to see the truth.
Truth is either wrong or right depending on how we as observers of truth prefer to define truth.
Truth may change for change is the nature of the universe.
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There is no more time for conflict in this world.
If we decide to continue on the path we have chosen or been born into, we will end up commiting suicide as a species.
We will be extinct in the next 100 years.
This is a time for peace.
For silence.
For contemplation.
For a lack of fighting.
For the attainment of higher conciousness so that we may all be aware of reality as we are inevitably to become.
This is a time for EVOLUTION
Not revolution.
It is a time for true change in the world.
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To change in the right direction, stop fighting.
Then you will realize that there is no problem because the problem has already been solved.
Peace causes peace.
Peace is the effect of peace.
War is the effect of war.
Be still.
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"When speaking to God, speak selflessly,
For you are God,
God is you.
To hear the voice of God,
Be silent and listen."
-Anonymous
To speak to is to hear
To listen is to be heard
To listen is to speak
To hear properly, one must be silent
Silence your ego and allow your consciousness to become aware of who you really are and what you really mean.
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"Our deepest fear is that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, who am I to be brillient, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous?
Actually, who are you not to be?
YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD.
You playing small doesn't serve the world.
There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that others won't feel insecure around you.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others"
-Nelson Mandela, 1994 inaugral speech.
We are not only children of God, we ARE God.
All of us, everything.
As God we have a resposability which we have been led to believe is not ours.
We've been led to believe we are indeed not God, merely an object of "god's" posession and manipulation.
We have been manipulated, and we have been treated like posessions, and God did it to us.
Those people who have manipulated us are God as well as we are God.
Their will is just as much the will of God as our will.
We've done this to ourselves.
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We live in this world because it is our will.
We may change the world if it be our will.
All we must do is stop what wrong we are doing and fill that space and time with what is right.
Be not in conflict, act of pure will, know peace.
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When your will is peace, and you act as peace, you have brought peace to the world.
Other people will pick up on that.
You may influence other people in a peaceful way and they will become aware of your peaceful intentions.
Peace is peace.
Peace in you brings peace to me.
Peace causes peace.
Peace is an effect of peace.
They will have no choice but to feel your peaceful presence, and upon feeling it will attain peace.
They will not oppose your peace because they will be at peace with you.
There is no opposition in peace.
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When there is peace in all of earth, natural balance is restored and a peaceful society emerges to take the place of the old conflict.
Will peace and be peace and cause peace as an effect.
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We are all one body, one mind, in this together for the betterment of all.
Although this time period in history might appear to be negetive and chaotic, it can also be seen as positive and chaotic.
It is in the will to decide our own reality we find the ability to bring every one out of the darkness we've allowed ourselves to believe in and into the light we should allow ourselves to believe in.
Remember, you are your "enemy", love yourself and find love in yourself.
Act peacefully toward yourself and find peace in yourself.
You will always reap what you sow.
WE will reap what WE sow and for that reason, if we wish to be at peace and reap peace, we must sow the seeds of peace.
We must sow those seeds now while we still have arms and soil.
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If you don't understand something, and you don't want to, it isn't for you.
I am open to questions and comment.
Everything you say will help me on my journey.
My intention is to help you.
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Love and Peace
slim
25th September 2005, 21:14
Oh aye, is very nice but...
There is no peace in peace as we stand. People are suffering and dying in unneccessary circumstances that are nothing to do with peace.
The unpeaceful nature of this world can be overcome with a final struggle. Like a storm always ends, so will conflict. Man is a political animal which always means differing ideas but one day soon man will not have a need to violently enforce ideas. Peace will come and i wont allow any defeatist "pro peace"jargon that actually kills it oppose the will of peace.
Do chara,
Slim. Sil Anmachadhra.
Gnosis
26th September 2005, 01:45
"Peace", and the meaning thereof, is subject to opinion.
There is no peace in peace as we stand. People are suffering and dying in unneccessary circumstances that are nothing to do with peace.
I see peace in this world.
I see peace because I see that peace may never die.
Peace has always existed and can never be killed.
No matter what we choose to focus our energies on or allow into our consciousness, peace will always be there waiting patiently for us to stop as it knows no time.
Though most may not see it, it is always there.
It is important to learn from the state of the world but move on, grow up, be more than what you see.
Yes they are suffering, but it does not mean we also must suffer, or that they must suffer any longer.
We must share with them our peace as we attain it so that no one is left behind.
Instead of suffering, focus on peace and then give peace.
They will suffer no longer, even under the same circumstances.
Any one may find peace, so long as they know where it is.
The unpeaceful nature of this world can be overcome with a final struggle. Like a storm always ends, so will conflict. Man is a political animal which always means differing ideas but one day soon man will not have a need to violently enforce ideas. Peace will come and i wont allow any defeatist "pro peace"jargon that actually kills it oppose the will of peace.
The struggle will some day end, and peace will be attained.
The struggle will not be the cause of the peace.
Peace will be attained when struggle ends.
No grand "final struggle" is necessary but the one which comes directly before attainment of peace.
Peace comes from Peace, not struggle.
Politics is a thing of the past, there is no need for politics in a peace world.
Politics has never done what it was meant to and won't start now.
We need to leave the relm of politics behind for greater things.
"Peace will come"?
PEACE IS HERE
open your eyes and recieve it or else play out your "final struggle".
But if you so choose to play the stuggler, your struggle will end nothing but your own life.
Struggle does not end struggle.
The ending of struggle brings the end of struggle.
Peace is never struggling again.
Peace is never having to struggle again.
Peace is having no idea of political struggle, or moral struggle, or religeous struggle.
There will always be work in life, however.
We should not be satisfied with peace.
Our new found peace should be used to bring higher consciousness amungst all the people of the Earth.
A new form of consciousness is the next phase of evolution.
That phase is set in place when we have all reached the attainment of peace on a universal level.
The future is not now important.
Now is important.
PEACE IS NOW.
PEACE IS HERE.
Look at it, see it, your struggle is for struggle, not peace.
For peace, end struggle.
These words are not in the name of defeat.
These words are in the name of peace, love, trust, and joy.
God is here,
We are here,
Peace is God
We are God
We are peace
We are now
NOW IS THE TIME FOR EVOLUTION
If you have an idea, if you know your supreme philosophy, if you believe you have a message for the world, whatever that may be,
NOW IS THE TIME FOR COMMUNICATION
The internet is a resource, use it.
Be aware of the time in history in which you dwell, want to make a difference?
SPEAK UP.
Speak with confidence, dignity, selflessness, honesty, and tact.
LISTEN AND BE HEARD
YOU ARE GOD
If you listen to me, you are listening to yourself.
We are all one mind.
ONE MIND.
WE ARE THE MIND.
Look around, become aware of yourself and all the word "self" implies.
Imagine the universe and the world therein as one consciousness sending messages to itself through itself and developing reality as the one consciousness and one behavior see fit.
WE ARE MORE THAN WE SUSPECT
And it is TIME to ACCEPT our RESPOSABILITY and transform what used to be into what rightfully is
We are GOD
Be Peace and all Will Be Peace
If you are peace, your will is peaceful, your heart and mind are peace, and we are one step closer to the ultimate goel.
It takes every individual piece to complete a puzzle.
If you are Love, your will is loving, your heart and mind know and feel but love and compassion, and we are one step closer to our fullest potential as a whole.
But it cannot be done without the individual.
There is no whole without the individual.
Every individual should accept a version of peace which suits them best.
Every one should have their own ideas about what makes life and what makes life meaningful.
It is okay to be inspired by others, and it is okay to never branch off on your own,
But I believe it is vital to the movement for each and every individual to decide for himself what peace, truth, harmony, joy, love, and trust really are.
Build your own faith, be not depandent on the faith and word of those around you.
Know for yourself what peace is and be at peace
Be without conflict, without imbalance.
Be what you will, even if it goes against popular opinion.
Kill in the name of killing if it should be the will of God.
Your will is God's will, and the only person you'll ever have to answer to is yourself.
Love if your will be so, cry if your will be so, suffer and rape and die if your will be so.
It is up to you, it is your responsability as well as everyone elses.
The individual has always been taught to rely on others, to depend on others.
It is not necessary to depend on others.
THINK FOR YOURSELF.
ÑóẊîöʼn
26th September 2005, 02:23
So much idealism, so little realism.
To fight in the name of peace is futile.
See my sig.
The name of peace has been manipulated, distorted, and transformed into hate, anger, and war as a result of selfish conditioning.
Oh, everyone desires peace. Even the warhawks in the White House. But their peace is not our peace and vice versa.
But even though we may have been taught to not see peace, or to see peace as something it is not, PEACE will always exist.
Peace is an abstract concept created by humans to describe an ideal order of things. Peace is not inherent within reality. Reality is anything but peaceful.
If we stop fighting, if we sit quietly, we will see the peace.
Until someone decides they want to be top dog, in which case peace is irrelevant.
Without our conscious understanding of "the universe", that universe we understand does not exist.
WRONG. The universe exists independantly of human thought. To say otherwise is egotistical in the extreme.
See the universe as the peaceful place it is, and you have attained peace.
Fighting will always get in the way of attaining peace, even if you are fighting in the name of peace.
Fighting for peace is futile.
Completely and utterly wrong. Tyranny does not go silently into the night - tyranny has to be smashed!
It is important to examine what it is we truely want from this life experience.
If we "want peace", and we fight for it, it is apparent that we do not want peace, we want fight.
Bullshit. If we want peace from a dictator, we drag him out and shoot him, we don't recite platitudes.
Fighting is never peace, although peace will exist even when a fight is going on.
In that case, does it matter whether we fight or not? Peace exists anyway right?
Fighting "revolution" is both a cause and an effect of war.
"War" is both a cause and an effect of fighting revolution.
A revolution is not a war, at least not in the traditional sense of formational warfare.
Truth is either wrong or right depending on how we as observers of truth prefer to define truth.
Truth may change for change is the nature of the universe.
Relativist crap.
This is a time for EVOLUTION
Not revolution.
You talk alot about ideals, but I've yet to see you tell us what we're actually supposed to do.
Are you proposing reformism?
What's all this "God" crap you keep going on about? Haven't you heard? God is dead.
What is it you actually want us to do? You go on about nonviolence and peace and all that rot, are you saying that if we sit tight and wait the "bad people" will go away? You know that isn't gonna happen.
Gnosis
26th September 2005, 02:48
Reality is anything but peaceful.
Opinion.
You're opinion is the most valuable concept, the most powerful concept you will ever subscribe to.
Your opinion of your reality sets the tone for your entire life, including the way you interpret and communicate with those around you.
In that case, does it matter whether we fight or not? Peace exists anyway right?
Peace without consciousness of peace does not exist in the conscious relm.
Peace exists, but in order for it to shape our reality, we must access it and allign ourselves with it.
Peace is always there, waiting for us to see it.
If we never see it, we never see it.
If we are too busy fighting, we will never see peace.
It does not matter whether you fight for it or not, it will always exist, just under the surface, just around the corner, waiting to be found and applied.
Fighting in the name of peace is futile.
Fighting for any other reason than to fight is futile as all things and states of mind exist anyway and may be attained without battle.
It takes a bit of open mindedness.
If you are not open to peace, you will not see peace.
What's all this "God" crap you keep going on about? Haven't you heard? God is dead.
Your opinion of your reality is both the cause and effect of your opinion of reality.
God may very well be dead, but it does not matter.
"God" is everything, everyone, all mind, all body, all soul.
God is here and now and you are God.
What is it you actually want us to do? You go on about nonviolence and peace and all that rot, are you saying that if we sit tight and wait the "bad people" will go away?
I want you to do what makes you most happy.
If that means waiting around with your thumb up your ass, then so be it.
If it means attaining enlightenment or endarkenment, then so be it.
If it means fighting to the death a war in the name of peace, then SO BE IT.
Your will is the will of God, the only person you ever have to answer to is yourself.
Find freedom in your opinion of reality and in the way you interact with yourself.
I go on about what I go on about because it brings me joy and peace to share with you what I am.
I like to feel good and act accordingly with my good feelings.
I expect nothing more from you.
THINK FOR YOURSELF
FEEL FOR YOURSELF
LIVE FOR YOURSELF
YOU ARE GOD
YOU ARE FREE
GOD IS EVERYTHING
One suggestion if you dont know what to do: Develope your consciousness.
Become aware of yourself in relation to your inner and outer worlds.
You are beautiful, glorious, dark and dangerous.
Its all right, its all natural, its all god.
GOD IS INFALIBLE
The will of god is never wrong, there is no wrong and in being so there is no "right".
Existence is and all which exists is God and natural.
I have no enemies, there are no "bad people".
We are all one as God and in that we find our greatest power.
In being God, we make reality what it is just as much as anything else which influences the universe.
It is our opinion which is our most valuable asset.
Develope your opinion wisely.
Do not depend on others.
Do not depend on me.
BE HAPPY, satisfied, at peace
Be in harmony with yourself.
ÑóẊîöʼn
26th September 2005, 03:14
Opinion.
You're opinion is the most valuable concept, the most powerful concept you will ever subscribe to.
Your opinion of your reality sets the tone for your entire life, including the way you interpret and communicate with those around you.
It's not an opinion, it's a fact that the universe is a violent place.
The birth of our own universe was a violent expansion.
Billions of light years away, countless stars are being torn apart as they fall into the gravity well of supermassive black holes. We call them quasars.
Hundred of millions of light years away, thousands of stars are exploding into hypernovae that make normal supernovae look like party poppers.
Millions of light years away, galaxies are swallowing, colliding with and scattering each other.
Thousands of light years away, a vast loop shaped structure is blasting out X-Rays.
Hundreds of light years away, stars are being born, living, and dieing.
One the surface of the sun, vast loops of plasma shoot out and scorch the surface of Mercury.
On our own planet, storms rage, volcanoes erupt, earthquakes shake, icebergs collapse into the sea, millions upon millions of animals prey on each other and man shoots, blows up and kills his fellows.
If that's what you call peaceful then I'd hate to see your idea of violent.
Fighting in the name of peace is futile.
No it isn't. Shoot the tyrant(s) = no more tyranny. Of course there's going to be some arguments about who will take the trash out afterwards, but that's the price of freedom.
God is here and now and you are God.
If I'm God, can I create a rock I cannot lift?
Honestly, I find it hard to understand what you're saying.
I want you to do what makes you most happy.
In that case, I'll take smashing capitalism and the State.
Zingu
26th September 2005, 05:05
I rather desire freedom than "peace".
If you are not open to peace, you will not see peace.
If you aren't open to freedom you will not see what freedom is, and will not realize fighting for freedom is the only way to acheive it.
Anyways, I mostly don't know what you are talking about.
OleMarxco
26th September 2005, 14:34
Riight ;)
And the burgerouise will just walk away, giving up their excessive inventory withouth a hassle? Dream on! Their carry-on money-bag's must be exterminated.
However; Is it worth it bein' the aggressor to bring down Capitalism?
Nope, is're answer. I'd rather lure out it's worse sides, use it against'em, and smite'em
in a counter-attack after defence, to prove by example, that we can crush'em and we got the guts and the reason to do so. Any sensible person will follow up on'rat!
Gnosis
26th September 2005, 14:36
Freedom is like peace.
When you open yourself to freedom,
when you BE freedom,
You are freedom
And you are free.
The challenge is in seeing that you are free already,
always have been,
always will be.
Freedom and peace are like love, trust, and joy.
All the spoils of a well lived life.
What I am talking about is what in MY OPINION is a radically simple way of viewing and experiencing life and the world.
I see opinion as being the one most sacred concept the human mind may achieve.
Opinion, point of view, the individual process of understanding and relating meaning to reality.
I wish to encourage this process in the here and now, and so here I am, sharing my thoughts with you.
Last night I expanded upon an explanation I felt I gave too quickly and not with enough thought.
God may very well be dead, but it does not matter.
God is in fact dead.
God is death as God is life for God is all forever.
It matters so much as my opinion allows it to.
It's not an opinion, it's a fact that the universe is a violent place.
The birth of our own universe was a violent expansion.
Billions of light years away, countless stars are being torn apart as they fall into the gravity well of supermassive black holes. We call them quasars.
Hundred of millions of light years away, thousands of stars are exploding into hypernovae that make normal supernovae look like party poppers.
Millions of light years away, galaxies are swallowing, colliding with and scattering each other.
Thousands of light years away, a vast loop shaped structure is blasting out X-Rays.
Hundreds of light years away, stars are being born, living, and dieing.
One the surface of the sun, vast loops of plasma shoot out and scorch the surface of Mercury.
On our own planet, storms rage, volcanoes erupt, earthquakes shake, icebergs collapse into the sea, millions upon millions of animals prey on each other and man shoots, blows up and kills his fellows.
If that's what you call peaceful then I'd hate to see your idea of violent.
The above is pure opinion.
It is the human point of view from which you gaze upon the face of the universe.
And though your words are felt, and all powerful as they may be,
They are no more than your opinion,
no more than what you percieve when looking from your point of view.
"Violent"
"Light years"
"Billions"
"Shoot out"
"Vast"
"Loop-sharped"
"Away"
"Is"
"The Universe"
"Prey"
"Hypernovae"
"Normal hypernovae"
"Swallowing"
"Smashing"
"Fall"
Opinion.
Judgement made on point of view alone.
All of these events described are true in as much as they happen, but to put any lable on them, "Violent", "Peaceful", "Meaningless", is a matter of individual opinion.
This isn't to say that there is no truth, this is to say that all truth is truth if we see it as so because we are God and it be our will to see and opinionate.
You have proven to me that it is possible to live in violence.
No it isn't. Shoot the tyrant(s) = no more tyranny. Of course there's going to be some arguments about who will take the trash out afterwards, but that's the price of freedom.
You are a tyrant.
Kill yourself.
I will clean up after you, at no cost to my freedom or my peace.
I do not hate.
I love and I love you.
But if it is your will to kill tyrants, do not forget to kill last yourself.
If I'm God, can I create a rock I cannot lift?
That's a good question.
I don't know what knid of answer to give to that.
I've tried to approach it from a few different angles, but nothing satisfies.
Thank you, now I have something to think about during work this day.
If you don't understand a concept, and you don't want to, then it is not for you.
Take what you can if you will.
Focus and build upon what you DO understand.
Not everything I say will relate to everyone or apply to every reality.
In that case, I'll take smashing capitalism and the State.
I can understand that urge and will never hold it against you.
If it be your wish, and it be your will, then it be your truth and shall be known.
Fidelbrand
26th September 2005, 17:53
To fight in the name of peace is futile.
So Gandhi and Mother Theresa are frivolous?
Peace is silent.
yes........
Peace is not fighting.
ok, I can feel your blood is pumping and you really wanna fight for the sake of fighting...... ok......
(Didn't have the patient to read, and scrolled down...)
My intention is to help you.
No you didn't.
Love and Peace
A Contradictory end.... :huh:
ÑóẊîöʼn
26th September 2005, 20:31
The above is pure opinion.
It is the human point of view from which you gaze upon the face of the universe.
And though your words are felt, and all powerful as they may be,
They are no more than your opinion,
no more than what you percieve when looking from your point of view.
No, it is not an opinion. It is a fact because I am correctly describing the universe using words which have a universally accepted meaning.
Therefore, from the human viewpoint (Which is the only viewpoint which really matters btw) the universe IS violent.
Opinion.
Judgement made on point of view alone.
All of these events described are true in as much as they happen, but to put any lable on them, "Violent", "Peaceful", "Meaningless", is a matter of individual opinion.
Then fine, I'm going to label you a relativist New Age idiot with no attatchment to reality, and since that is my opinion nobody can dispute that.
This isn't to say that there is no truth, this is to say that all truth is truth if we see it as so because we are God and it be our will to see and opinionate.
Oh bullshit! By that measure you are a small pink hamster, and that is the truth because I see it as so because I am God and it is my will to see and opinionate.
Can't you see how ABSURD your philosophy is???
You are a tyrant.
Kill yourself.
I will clean up after you, at no cost to my freedom or my peace.
Why am I tyrant because I wish to pro-actively defend myself against tyranny?
WHAT WOULD YOU DO? HOW WOULD YOU FREE YOURSELF FROM TYRANNY?
Would you sit there and spew forth endless platitudes that mean nothing to those with a grasp of the way the real world works, or would you STAND UP AND FIGHT FoR YOUR FREEDOM?
Do you know that peace is meaningless without freedom???
I do not hate.
I love and I love you.
But if it is your will to kill tyrants, do not forget to kill last yourself.
Bullshit. I do not become a tyrant by killing them, I become a tyrant by acting like them. Tyrants do not bring freedom, but tyrant-killers do.
It's like talking to a brick wall.
I can understand that urge and will never hold it against you.
If it be your wish, and it be your will, then it be your truth and shall be known.
Have you ever left your house? Have you ever seen what the real world is like? Snap out of those delusions. True peace is unattainable.
Gnosis
27th September 2005, 13:02
If an opinion is "universally accepted" and sen as truth by all who view it, then I suppose it is truth to all of those who see it.
But that does not mean it is the whole of truth, or an absolute truth, or a truth that will not die with the opinion holder who attaches their mind to it.
"The universe is violent" is not truth, but is part of truth, and in being part of truth is also true.
GHANDI never condoned violence.
Ghandi would fast until the brink of death when those in india commited acts of violence against ANYONE.
Ghandi believed in passive resistence because he knew it the only way to bring an end to all violence forever.
He believed in non-violent protest and religeous tolerence.
Ghandi knew peace, not violence.
YOUR violence is no better than the violence of the government or the police or your drunken father.
They are the same violence, whether in "self efense" or otherwise.
Why am I tyrant because I wish to pro-actively defend myself against tyranny?
It is not your wish to defend yourself which makes you out to be a tyrant.
Based on individual judgment or preference, you wish to exercises power in a harsh, violent, cruel manner.
You wish to impulsively lash out, to destroy, to smash, and beat, and mutilate, and torchure.
You would not stop at tearing down the wall, and I can tell simply by talking to you and the way you carry yourself in your words.
If it was up to you, wouldn't you hold absolute power?
It is your manner, not your reason. Your behavior, not your ideology which makes you a tyrant.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO? HOW WOULD YOU FREE YOURSELF FROM TYRANNY?
I am already free.
I would act by telling others that THEY are already free, and if they trust and belive me, they will see that, and the empire will crumble without any physical effort.
WE ARE FREE.
The more you believe you are not free, the more control the tyrants of the system have over you.
That's how they get you: Make you believe you are not free and then when you put up a fight, raise taxes to fund the war.
I do not become a tyrant by killing them, I become a tyrant by acting like them. Tyrants do not bring freedom, but tyrant-killers do
So you already know that tyranny is in acting like a tyrant.
Tyrants kill all the time.
How may one kill a tyrant, and yet remain not a tyrant?
Tyrant killers do not bring freedom.
People who have and see freedom and wish to share bring freedom.
You are constricted by yourself if at all.
It is your own mind and your own capacity for giving up your ego and knowing things other than yourself which holds you back from realizing freedom and peace.
If you do not have patience for others, do not expect others to have patience for you.
Can't you see how ABSURD your philosophy is???
My philosophy is absurd because you choose to see nothing in it but absurdity.
You choose to apply it in absurd ways.
You have not taken the time or given the effort necessary to understand and see what it is I am trying to say.
You don't understand and so it is easier for your underdeveloped emotions to pass me off as some sort of absurd, blind, blabbering fool because that is all you do understand.
You understand hate, you understand pain, and you understand putting lables to things as a way of putting meaning to what for you is meaningless.
It is not my problem that you do not think for yourself.
It is not my problem that you cannot see past yourself.
It is not my problem that you are blind, violent, and aggitated.
It is not my problem that you are arrogant, belligerent, unwilling to take into any account any one elses point of view for fear of having to give up your own.
It is not my problem that you are disrespectful, in love with hate, emotionally malnourished, intellectually stale, LIKE SPEAKING TO A BRICK WALL.
Not my problem, I don't have to deal with you, I don't have to tolerate you in my everyday life, I don't have to look at you, and have my energy sapped at the mere presence of your black hole heart.
That's your problem, and the problem of the people who have been born near you.
These violent hate filled words are a disgrace to your species.
They are the very root of all the problems in this world.
People like you who have been more interested in war and killing, than peace and loving have always held us back from reaching our fullest potential as a whole.
I feel sick when I think that you and thousands more like you believe in the reality you have described for me.
You have no perspective and I wish you would grow up and see how foolish you sound.
I may too sound foolish in my own respect, but it does not matter right now.
Don't you realize the state of the world you live in?
I say YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.
Go ahead, be the will of God, be all that you can be, join the system, be the system, fight the system, you are going to take part in making the world a lot less easy to see the peace in.
You will never help any one by killing when you could be peaceful.
You are unnecessary and hopefully you will die before you have a chance to do serious damage to an already fragile world.
Be opinionated, be a killing machine, be whatever you want.
That was my point.
THINK FOR YOURSELF
DO WHAT YOU WILL
why must you oppose that which sets you free?
Do you so despretly wish to kill and fight and die in the name of nothing?
I just don't understand that any more.
I used to be just like that.
Belligerent, violent, careless, detached.
It is so pointless it hurts to remember.
It hurts to think you are lving in that hell world.
Are you still in high school?
From your words I gather you are, but I don't know, it would be interesting to know.
No. 355728
27th September 2005, 13:36
GHANDI never condoned violence.
Ghandi would fast until the brink of death when those in india commited acts of violence against ANYONE.
Ghandi believed in passive resistence because he knew it the only way to bring an end to all violence forever.
He believed in non-violent protest and religeous tolerence.
Ghandi knew peace, not violence.
Ghandi was a fighter.
Zingu
27th September 2005, 13:58
I am already free.
I would act by telling others that THEY are already free, and if they trust and belive me, they will see that, and the empire will crumble without any physical effort.
WE ARE FREE.
The more you believe you are not free, the more control the tyrants of the system have over you.
That's how they get you: Make you believe you are not free and then when you put up a fight, raise taxes to fund the war.
I can no longer take you seriously.
The Grey Blur
27th September 2005, 15:42
Originally posted by
[email protected] 25 2005, 08:29 PM
"Our deepest fear is that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, who am I to be brillient, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous?
Actually, who are you not to be?
YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD.
You playing small doesn't serve the world.
There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that others won't feel insecure around you.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others"
-Nelson Mandela, 1994 inaugral speech.
:lol: , you retard, you're all for peace but you just quoted someone who was the leader of an armed revolutionary group
BI-HAAAAATCH!
slim
27th September 2005, 18:37
"GHANDI never condoned violence.
Ghandi would fast until the brink of death when those in india commited acts of violence against ANYONE.
Ghandi believed in passive resistence because he knew it the only way to bring an end to all violence forever.
He believed in non-violent protest and religeous tolerence.
Ghandi knew peace, not violence."
His passive tactics incited violence into others. They fought for the same thing he did. They fought in his name.
Bobby Sands in another situation.
As for Nelson Mandella, as said above.
Gnosis,
instead of repeating yourself you need to make snappy statements of truth and reason. Fact above opinion. Evidence above speculation.
Do chara,
Slim. Sil Anmachadhra.
Clann Boru
ÑóẊîöʼn
27th September 2005, 18:38
GHANDI never condoned violence.
GHANDI was a fucking crook!
That old faker never supported actions that would truly free the Indian subcontinent.
It is my contention that his little "modestly dressed simple minded" act was just that, an ACT!
YOUR violence is no better than the violence of the government or the police or your drunken father.
They are the same violence, whether in "self efense" or otherwise.
Bullshit. Your pacifism is cowardice taken to it's logical extreme.
Based on individual judgment or preference, you wish to exercises power in a harsh, violent, cruel manner.
You wish to impulsively lash out, to destroy, to smash, and beat, and mutilate, and torchure.
I do not wish to use torture. I do not wish to reduce powerful men to mewling animals, as they have done to others.
I wish to permanently remove them from their positions of power!
The more you believe you are not free, the more control the tyrants of the system have over you.
That's how they get you: Make you believe you are not free and then when you put up a fight, raise taxes to fund the war.
What one believes has nothing to do with it! Simply because one cannot see the chains doesn't mean they are not there.
Your belief that we can free ourselves just by thinking about it is literally wishful thinking.
Your methodology is a recipe for passivity.
LOOK at the world around you. Every day, people go to work in jobs they hate. Every damn day, people worry about whether they can pay the bills.
Every day, people go hungry, get killed in unjust wars, and suffer all sorts of indignities for no good reason.
You call this "free"?
So you already know that tyranny is in acting like a tyrant.
Tyrants kill all the time.
How may one kill a tyrant, and yet remain not a tyrant?
Tyrants do more than simply kill. They oppress. In killing a tyrant, one kills a source of misery and insecurity.
But whatever the form of tyranny, the most important thing is that rights and freedoms are not simply handed out like candy on Halloween. One must fight for
them.
You are constricted by yourself if at all.
This sounds like the capitalist excuse "The poor are only poor because their lazy"
My philosophy is absurd because you choose to see nothing in it but absurdity.
You choose to apply it in absurd ways.
You have not taken the time or given the effort necessary to understand and see what it is I am trying to say.
You don't understand and so it is easier for your underdeveloped emotions to pass me off as some sort of absurd, blind, blabbering fool because that is all you do understand.
If a philosophy can be used to give absurd results, then that is a piss poor philosophy in my view.
Not my problem, I don't have to deal with you, I don't have to tolerate you in my everyday life, I don't have to look at you, and have my energy sapped at the mere presence of your black hole heart.
Aaaw, I'm sorry I disturbed your "aura" :rolleyes:
These violent hate filled words are a disgrace to your species.
You think I'm filled with hate and bile? Try the Stormfront Forums (http://www.***************/forum/) if you want a taste of REAL hatred.
People like you who have been more interested in war and killing, than peace and loving have always held us back from reaching our fullest potential as a whole.
My rifle will liberate me.
I feel sick when I think that you and thousands more like you believe in the reality you have described for me.
And I feel sick when I think of people like you dieing needless, horrific deaths because you refuse to fight for yourselves.
Don't you realize the state of the world you live in?
Yes, but it's obvious that you don't.
You will never help any one by killing when you could be peaceful.
So if I see someone trying to rape or murder an innocent woman, it would be wrong of me to kill the scumbag? Am I supposed to just stand there and let injustice happen before my very eyes?
Are you still in high school?
From your words I gather you are, but I don't know, it would be interesting to know.
No, I am not. I am currently unemployed.
Gnosis
28th September 2005, 13:58
We are free as our view of reality allows for freedom.
I do not wish to stop you from killing.
A part of me wishes you would start it up already instead of just talking about it.
I would never try to stop you from performing what your feelings and thoughts demand.
I might try to stop you from raping someone, though.
I encourage you to try to stop them from raping.
Kill if you must.
All I will do is share with you my opinion.
Whether you listen or not is your choice, and I will not try to force you into hearing anything you are not open to.
We are as open to experience as our view(s) of reality allows.
I will not attempt to belittle your belief system, but I will tell you how I feel in relation to it.
I do not wish to change your mind.
I do wish to interact with you and to share with you my point of view so that if you listen you will hear and not be so limited to your own sphere of thoughts, emotions, and experiences.
You wish to permenantly remove them from their positions from power?
How can they be not powerful if you see them as being powerful?
The only power they have exists within the minds which give them that power.
If we all agree that something is powerful, it is powerful.
The only reason why President Bush is "powerful" is because he got the majority of americans to believe he has power, and they bought it.
And after buying it, they gave him "the country", which is also nothing more than an agreement and the military organization.
If you believe these men are powerful, then they are.
But i say this:
They hold no power over me.
I see them as my equal.
I see them clearly in relation to the rest of my known universe, and I say they are tiny, irrelevent compared to the power of the sun.
They are nothing more than I am, and I am nothing but a grain of sand comapared to everything else I can see.
All you have to do FIRST is realize what you wish your world to look like.
Realize it already exists that way.
THEN act in accordance with your new found reality.
I do not promote doing NOTHING.
I promote doing things CORRECTLY.
I believe that if we are to change the world, we must first change the way we view the world, and then act in accordance with that philosophy.
If we first do not change ourselves, we will act just like our enemy and as we tear down their wall, build an even higher one in our own image.
And that image will be a reflection of the wall which once stood, but we'll be blind to our faults because we will believe in a reality which better suits our needs and wants.
We will tell ourselves that we are not like them, that we are better than them, that we are more correct than they were, but we will be lying to ourselves.
We will be agreeing upon somthing which only exists because we agree upon it.
If we change what is inside of us first, because what is inside is a reflection of what is outside, we will begin to see life in a way which benefits our movement in a more productive way.
As we begin to see life differently, we begin to interact with life differently.
We begin to effect the experiences of others.
We allow our philosophy to grow and take on its own life.
As we act, our world outide begins to take on more of a shape which more directly reflects what is inside of us.
If we gain enough power, support, participation, access to land and resources, we can completely revise the world we live in, inside and out.
We can complete the change when we complete both steps in that order.
It takes patience, effort, and intelligence.
Also emotional maturity, and the willingness to be open to possibilities which once seemed out of reach.
I see us all as free.
I used to believe i was trapped, because I saw that I was.
But even as I was taken hostage by the system, forced to live in "youth programs" where they attempted to brainwash me and feed me pills,
Even as I was sentenced to time in institutions where they performed experiments with drugs using me as a guinea pig.
Even as I was a prisoner of war, I was free, even though I did not realize it then.
They attepted to assimilate me, but I was free and I resisted.
I am still obsessed with taking out the system, but Im older now, I've experinced more than just the hell I went through inside the system for six years.
I have experienced what I will call infinite Love, but my philosophy is immature still.
You help me realize where I am lacking, and you seem like you dont hold back much and I like that.
Can we not work together in harmony for the betterment of us all?
Can you not see that we are all equal in relation to each other and the rest of the universe?
I do not wish to stop you from killing any one.
I realize that is is natural to die, necessary to die, and death is on my side.
So go ahead, kill any one you wish, kill me, I care but I will not resist.
That's right, I do not hold on to life.
I realize that I will die someday, that I am in the process of dying any way, and if someone was to come by and kill me I would not resist because I think my death might do well for the world as we are overcrowded and I am irrelevent.
All I do is feed the system.
I work six days a week at a hardware store.
I sell to them the materials they use to build the system.
I sell to them the chemicals they use to kill the earth and theirselves.
I am not ashamed because I have to eat too, and I have bills to pay as well.
I know about working, I know about struggle, I know about the world, I am not delusional, I am not insane, I have seen insane and its not me.
I have been inside part of the system, I have something against them, they took six years of my life and forced me to do those things that I did while Iwas wasting my time in their programs.
If anyone wants to see them fall, its me.
But I don't want it to be done in the wrong ways.
If we are going to put real energy into this, we should want to do it so that to reap the best results afterward.
The "best results" depends on personal preference, and that is okay, but we should find a way to allign ourselves because we are working toward the same goels.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Help me grow and I will help you grow and we can overthrow the government together in the best way possible.
What is YOUR personal philosophy?
What kind of world do you live in, what kind do you wish to live in?
How do you want to do this?
I am sincerely interested as any thing you can say can only work toward the betterment of both of us and any one else reading this.
I want to know every one's point of view.
Do you have any suggestions?
The Grey Blur
28th September 2005, 16:37
Originally posted by
[email protected] 28 2005, 01:29 PM
We are free as our view of reality allows for freedom.
I do not wish to stop you from killing.
A part of me wishes you would start it up already instead of just talking about it.
I would never try to stop you from performing what your feelings and thoughts demand.
I might try to stop you from raping someone, though.
I encourage you to try to stop them from raping.
Kill if you must.
All I will do is share with you my opinion.
Whether you listen or not is your choice, and I will not try to force you into hearing anything you are not open to.
We are as open to experience as our view(s) of reality allows.
I will not attempt to belittle your belief system, but I will tell you how I feel in relation to it.
I do not wish to change your mind.
I do wish to interact with you and to share with you my point of view so that if you listen you will hear and not be so limited to your own sphere of thoughts, emotions, and experiences.
You wish to permenantly remove them from their positions from power?
How can they be not powerful if you see them as being powerful?
The only power they have exists within the minds which give them that power.
If we all agree that something is powerful, it is powerful.
The only reason why President Bush is "powerful" is because he got the majority of americans to believe he has power, and they bought it.
And after buying it, they gave him "the country", which is also nothing more than an agreement and the military organization.
If you believe these men are powerful, then they are.
But i say this:
They hold no power over me.
I see them as my equal.
I see them clearly in relation to the rest of my known universe, and I say they are tiny, irrelevent compared to the power of the sun.
They are nothing more than I am, and I am nothing but a grain of sand comapared to everything else I can see.
All you have to do FIRST is realize what you wish your world to look like.
Realize it already exists that way.
THEN act in accordance with your new found reality.
I do not promote doing NOTHING.
I promote doing things CORRECTLY.
I believe that if we are to change the world, we must first change the way we view the world, and then act in accordance with that philosophy.
If we first do not change ourselves, we will act just like our enemy and as we tear down their wall, build an even higher one in our own image.
And that image will be a reflection of the wall which once stood, but we'll be blind to our faults because we will believe in a reality which better suits our needs and wants.
We will tell ourselves that we are not like them, that we are better than them, that we are more correct than they were, but we will be lying to ourselves.
We will be agreeing upon somthing which only exists because we agree upon it.
If we change what is inside of us first, because what is inside is a reflection of what is outside, we will begin to see life in a way which benefits our movement in a more productive way.
As we begin to see life differently, we begin to interact with life differently.
We begin to effect the experiences of others.
We allow our philosophy to grow and take on its own life.
As we act, our world outide begins to take on more of a shape which more directly reflects what is inside of us.
If we gain enough power, support, participation, access to land and resources, we can completely revise the world we live in, inside and out.
We can complete the change when we complete both steps in that order.
It takes patience, effort, and intelligence.
Also emotional maturity, and the willingness to be open to possibilities which once seemed out of reach.
I see us all as free.
I used to believe i was trapped, because I saw that I was.
But even as I was taken hostage by the system, forced to live in "youth programs" where they attempted to brainwash me and feed me pills,
Even as I was sentenced to time in institutions where they performed experiments with drugs using me as a guinea pig.
Even as I was a prisoner of war, I was free, even though I did not realize it then.
They attepted to assimilate me, but I was free and I resisted.
I am still obsessed with taking out the system, but Im older now, I've experinced more than just the hell I went through inside the system for six years.
I have experienced what I will call infinite Love, but my philosophy is immature still.
You help me realize where I am lacking, and you seem like you dont hold back much and I like that.
Can we not work together in harmony for the betterment of us all?
Can you not see that we are all equal in relation to each other and the rest of the universe?
I do not wish to stop you from killing any one.
I realize that is is natural to die, necessary to die, and death is on my side.
So go ahead, kill any one you wish, kill me, I care but I will not resist.
That's right, I do not hold on to life.
I realize that I will die someday, that I am in the process of dying any way, and if someone was to come by and kill me I would not resist because I think my death might do well for the world as we are overcrowded and I am irrelevent.
All I do is feed the system.
I work six days a week at a hardware store.
I sell to them the materials they use to build the system.
I sell to them the chemicals they use to kill the earth and theirselves.
I am not ashamed because I have to eat too, and I have bills to pay as well.
I know about working, I know about struggle, I know about the world, I am not delusional, I am not insane, I have seen insane and its not me.
I have been inside part of the system, I have something against them, they took six years of my life and forced me to do those things that I did while Iwas wasting my time in their programs.
If anyone wants to see them fall, its me.
But I don't want it to be done in the wrong ways.
If we are going to put real energy into this, we should want to do it so that to reap the best results afterward.
The "best results" depends on personal preference, and that is okay, but we should find a way to allign ourselves because we are working toward the same goels.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Help me grow and I will help you grow and we can overthrow the government together in the best way possible.
What is YOUR personal philosophy?
What kind of world do you live in, what kind do you wish to live in?
How do you want to do this?
I am sincerely interested as any thing you can say can only work toward the betterment of both of us and any one else reading this.
I want to know every one's point of view.
Do you have any suggestions?
I think you're just taking the mickey now, I mean you just say a truism then "stop killing" or "conspiracy". I think you're sitting on Stormfront laughing it up with your fascist friends while you cut and paste a stoned college students rejected thesis on revolution here.
Gnosis
29th September 2005, 15:37
I think you're just taking the mickey now, I mean you just say a truism then "stop killing" or "conspiracy". I think you're sitting on Stormfront laughing it up with your fascist friends while you cut and paste a stoned college students rejected thesis on revolution here.
I don't smoke.
I've never been to college.
I don't know what you mean by "Mickey" or "Stormfront".
I am not a "fascist".
I don't have any friends.
Why must you try so hard to bring me down?
A simple "I don't think you are correct" would suffice.
And if you took the time to make yourself look intelligent, I might actually begin to suspect that I actually am incorrect...
But I don't understand you just as much as you can't see me.
And so in the end we are both lost.
What are your plans for overthrowing the government?
Where do they begin, and where will the world be when you are finished?
What is your personal philosophy?
What is your view of yourself and your environment?
How exactly am I wrong?
Why exactly am I wrong?
When am I most wrong?
What about me is so unacceptable?
Where in my writing do I condradict my self?
Why do you think I think I am better than you?
What makes you think I am a facsist?
What makes you think I laugh?
How can I better myself and make my philosophy more realistic and easier to understand?
This is what I do with my time:
I work six days a week.
When I am not working, I am home sitting in silence or walking around town by myself or riding my bike by myself.
I am married, but he is away at photography school most of the time.
We ride bikes together when he is home.
We eat dinner and listen to music together when he is home.
We have dreams bout traveling the world, he as a photographer, I as a journalist, documenting everything with a philisophical twist, a satiric overtone.
Sometimes I stare at a black dot on a white piece of paper.
This exprcise helps me concentrate.
I get terrible headaches during which images of the worst possible outcomes of this time period flash before my eyes in an almost strob light-like fasion.
I watch the news sometimes, but not as often as I used to because it makes me paranoid.
No one at my job understands me and I have no friends.
My husband is my only confidant.
I use the internet to test my philosophies, but I consider it working.
That's it.
My entire life is meditation, work, exercise, and interaction with my husband.
In that order.
How can I be anything more than I am?
I am doing the best I possibly can with the lifestyle I have been given.
Someday everything will change, but i need money first.
I barely even have that.
What is your lifestyle like?
What are your dreams?
What do you see when you stare at a black dot for hours on end?
I don't know anything.
I don't even know that.
What do you expect from me?
The Grey Blur
29th September 2005, 16:12
Originally posted by
[email protected] 29 2005, 03:08 PM
I think you're just taking the mickey now, I mean you just say a truism then "stop killing" or "conspiracy". I think you're sitting on Stormfront laughing it up with your fascist friends while you cut and paste a stoned college students rejected thesis on revolution here.
I don't smoke.
I've never been to college.
I don't know what you mean by "Mickey" or "Stormfront".
I am not a "fascist".
I don't have any friends.
Why must you try so hard to bring me down?
A simple "I don't think you are correct" would suffice.
And if you took the time to make yourself look intelligent, I might actually begin to suspect that I actually am incorrect...
But I don't understand you just as much as you can't see me.
And so in the end we are both lost.
What are your plans for overthrowing the government?
Where do they begin, and where will the world be when you are finished?
What is your personal philosophy?
What is your view of yourself and your environment?
How exactly am I wrong?
Why exactly am I wrong?
When am I most wrong?
What about me is so unacceptable?
Where in my writing do I condradict my self?
Why do you think I think I am better than you?
What makes you think I am a facsist?
What makes you think I laugh?
How can I better myself and make my philosophy more realistic and easier to understand?
This is what I do with my time:
I work six days a week.
When I am not working, I am home sitting in silence or walking around town by myself or riding my bike by myself.
I am married, but he is away at photography school most of the time.
We ride bikes together when he is home.
We eat dinner and listen to music together when he is home.
We have dreams bout traveling the world, he as a photographer, I as a journalist, documenting everything with a philisophical twist, a satiric overtone.
Sometimes I stare at a black dot on a white piece of paper.
This exprcise helps me concentrate.
I get terrible headaches during which images of the worst possible outcomes of this time period flash before my eyes in an almost strob light-like fasion.
I watch the news sometimes, but not as often as I used to because it makes me paranoid.
No one at my job understands me and I have no friends.
My husband is my only confidant.
I use the internet to test my philosophies, but I consider it working.
That's it.
My entire life is meditation, work, exercise, and interaction with my husband.
In that order.
How can I be anything more than I am?
I am doing the best I possibly can with the lifestyle I have been given.
Someday everything will change, but i need money first.
I barely even have that.
What is your lifestyle like?
What are your dreams?
What do you see when you stare at a black dot for hours on end?
I don't know anything.
I don't even know that.
What do you expect from me?
WHA'EVA, MINGA!
slim
29th September 2005, 16:56
I go to school 5 days a week. I have many friends at my old school and am constantly making new ones here. I have just set up a company there. We hope to bring a beneficial service to the community but we havent decided what yet. We're registering it tomorro but it'll put us £720 down the drain. My politics class is full of leftists. My community is totally left. Its rather good. Im doing a school play of Romeo and Juliet to help me reconnect with my stage skills. My band isnt going that far cos the bassist is a stoner and i have better things to do at the moment. Ive stopped writing novels cos they suck lol. I used to meditate to help me gather my thoughts and make my mind more powerful but now i dont have the time or the strength. I go out with mates on the weekends and usually end up in some other town drunk.
I dream of a free Ireland. I dream of a free Britain. I dream of a world free from Capitalism and Imperialism. I dream of great things. I want marriage, children, a nice house in a safe and stable country.
I dont stare at black dots.
What do people expect of anyone? I dont expect people to expect anything of me so i oblige them with the same.
Do chara,
Slim. Sil Anmachadhra.
Gnosis
29th September 2005, 17:06
What do the words "Sil Anmachadhra. " mean?
slim
29th September 2005, 17:19
You are the first person to ask lol very observant.
It is one of the titles stolen by the British that is rightfully mine. I dont care for the land or the status. All I use it for is as recognition of what my forefathers fought and died for. A mark of respect really.
Gnosis
30th September 2005, 13:34
A mark of respect...
That's intersting, I felt when reading it like it was meant as some sort of honor or virtue or historic triumph.
It felt honorable to me, even though before reading them here I had never seen them before.
I like that.
I write novels too, but lately I've been sticking to short stories.
My latest one is still in the making, I don't even have a title, but the main character is a man named Master Card.
Cute, right? I won't give any more details except to say that it involves the government, big bussiness, making fun of people and teaching a moral lesson to them in the end.
I like you dreams, I think they are natural and honest and I respect nature and honesty.
I have a question, though, What does a free Ireland look like to you when you think about it?
What would life be in a free Ireland?
What must change for your dream to be reality?
How do you believe you and your alliances should go about changing reality in your home?
How do you think a free Ireland should interact with the rest of the world?
What does "freedom" mean to you?
I think you are a good person with a good heart and I think you're words might help others to realize their dreams as well.
We can all work together in our seperate ways in our seperate lands to bring things like peace, freedom, equality, and love into reality for the betterment of us all.
That's beautiful to me, and I hope other see that as well.
The Grey Blur
30th September 2005, 22:12
Originally posted by
[email protected] 29 2005, 04:50 PM
You are the first person to ask lol very observant.
It is one of the titles stolen by the British that is rightfully mine. I dont care for the land or the status. All I use it for is as recognition of what my forefathers fought and died for. A mark of respect really.
Yes, but what does it mean Slim?
I haven't called your bluff on this yet (I'm fluent in Irish) because I thought you might stop using it, it can be slightly annoying (why not just put it in your sig?), tell me what you're trying to say and I'll translate it for you.
Sil Anamchadhra - Think Soul Friend? - My best translation
slim
1st October 2005, 15:21
Thats the one problem with gaelic. It has so many dialects and is anglicised inaccurately sometimes. The proper name is Síl n-Anmcadha. I might just put it in my sig before i forget lol. I had a look at the surrounding lands and they all have similar names, stupid mistake for me to make. My bad.
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