Fight for Communism

[Master Che]

Isnt it better to fight instead of protesting and demonstrating? It just seems that protesting solves nothing except wasting time. So why not fight? Orgainize a group get some weapons and start a Revolution yourself it seems that that has done alot better. All of us should do it in my opinion.

[Camarada]

In countries like the U.S. you can not simply get a small group and have a revolution from there, a revolution should have the participation and support of a majority of the population

[novemba]

starting a new thread on this and hoping this will be moved to learning.

[restin256]

Massive protests are there to shed light on Communism for a lot of people, and the more people who are with us, the more will fight for it.

[FleasTheLemur]

In a country like the United States, there is just too much opposition... even the moderate left wouldn't feel sympathy for us. You also have to consider that for years we've been telling people that communism is "good on paper" and that anarchy would be 'chaos'. Even with all the harsh feelings toward the Katrina relief effort and the Iraq II, the working class wouldn't be able to fight the oppressors because they do not know of anything better or they're distracted with OMGWTF issues (like homosexuality and abortion) and escapism (after all.. for every one prole playing Nintendo or fixing his truck, there's one less potential revolter).

We'd need to start a massive ground campaigne to drum up support before we could even attempt something that serious. We don't wanna go the way of the Weathermen, ya know.

[Master Che]

Did i also mention i live in Brazil? Incase anyone thought i lived in the United States.
It could be possible here if we could explain to everyone what communism really is so then alot of people would be willing to fight for it. Then after that organize armies , have every or alot of workers stop working . It'll make the Govement a easy target.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

What do you think of Carlos Marighella?

[KC]

Isnt it better to fight instead of protesting and demonstrating?

No. Neither of these options are correct. If you truly want to help, you would educate people. Protesting alienates people. If you want to help, get a bunch of friends together, make some flyers, pass them out, talk publicly, get the word out. This is what will help the most.



It just seems that protesting solves nothing except wasting time. So why not fight?

Because fighting is a waste of time as well.


Orgainize a group get some weapons and start a Revolution yourself it seems that that has done alot better.

When has that done better? Cuba? Cuba in its current state can't exist forever. If it changes while capitalism is still around, then it will return to capitalism. It just hasn't happened yet.



All of us should do it in my opinion.

Only if you want to further damage the name of communism.

[Enragé]

taking up arms is only beneficial to the cause in the last stages of the revolution, when the people is behind you, and only necessary when the state tries to violently suppress this movement you are a part of (which they will)

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 02:15 AM
Isnt it better to fight instead of protesting and demonstrating? It just seems that protesting solves nothing except wasting time. So why not fight? Orgainize a group get some weapons and start a Revolution yourself it seems that that has done alot better. All of us should do it in my opinion.



*edit* Damn someone change the topic title to fight for communism.
I'm always incredibly suspicious of posts like these.

New members coming on the board encouraging people take up arms and start shooting at people. It's almost as if you were a cop!

Protesting is a of course nothing but a feeble gesutre at best. Most demonstrations are co-opted by the state and they only happen within the confines of state rules. What do they really achieve?

There are groups out there who do actions which have more purpose to them than a demonstration, but taking up arms in a westernised police state is absolutely pointless at the moment.

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 09:15 PM
Isnt it better to fight instead of protesting and demonstrating? It just seems that protesting solves nothing except wasting time. So why not fight? Orgainize a group get some weapons and start a Revolution yourself it seems that that has done alot better. All of us should do it in my opinion.



*edit* Damn someone change the topic title to fight for communism.
you need to do some reading on the SLA and see what happens to small armed groups which you speak of

[Raisa]

Patty Hearst was hot...look at home girl rob that bank! :lol:

[Commie Rat]

but protests can lead to great things, are you saying The Battle of Seattle was feeble?

[red_orchestra]

Be careful, please! Revolutions must be carefully planned...and taking up arms just because is a very wrong idea, very very wrong! Deadly force should only ever be used if you are at risk of being killed for being who you are without just cause. If society turned truely Fascist then man I'd be playing sniper the real game...but no, it ain't their yet.
I say wait...plan, study....read up on warfare strategy...keep your mind/body active...be aware of what is around you...observe...!!!keep low profile!!!...band up with comrads...pool resources....

Then when their is a call to action

BOOOOM! You've got them running. Swift...powerful...and they didn't see it comin'

[KC]

you need to do some reading on the SLA and see what happens to small armed groups which you speak of

The SLA was a joke.


but protests can lead to great things, are you saying The Battle of Seattle was feeble?

That was the exception, not the rule. Stop bringing this up; it was amazing but it only happened once.

[Black Dagger]

That was the exception, not the rule. Stop bringing this up; it was amazing but it only happened once.

What about Paris, May-June 1968? :P

[spartafc]

? Orgainize a group get some weapons and start a Revolution yourself it seems that that has done alot better. All of us should do it in my opinion.

a tiny group of armed men or womyn arming themselves and "starting a revolution" isn't going to produce a healthy revolution state of any description.

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 01:58 PM

you need to do some reading on the SLA and see what happens to small armed groups which you speak of

The SLA was a joke.


i know, thats why i told them to read up on the group, because most of them died when the house burned down ;)

[Master Che]

What we used religion to start a Revolution? Since Jesus has idea's very similar to Karl Marx. That'll make the average Christian think deferent about Communism right?

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 04:35 PM
What we used religion to start a Revolution? Since Jesus has idea's very similar to Karl Marx. That'll make the average Christian think deferent about Communism right?
no, religion is reactionary, and if lsd/redstar ever see this you are going to get a lecture as to why jesus is not communist. :P

[Commie Rat]

That was the exception, not the rule. Stop bringing this up; it was amazing but it only happened once.


Yes i will a agree the N30 was an exception, BUT it shows that people are able and willing all they need is a little push

It Could and Will happen Again