omg american propaganda at its best/worst

[_nin]

ok, so this morning before school i was watching recess (the disney kids show) and well there was this new perfect kid who everybody hated because he outdid everybody, anyway so all the other kids are plotting against him and one of the kids say "lets tell miss finster hes a comunist", to say the least i was gob smacked is comunist propaganda always this blatant in the usa?

[rioters bloc]

:o recess is one of my favourite cartoons ever! :( :o sooooo disllusioned now...


like when i found out that tin tin was actually anti-communist propaganda after having a crush on him since i was like 6 :(

[h&s]

Don't be bothered about it. its not even propaganda.
Its just a joke playing on the old propaganda idea of the communist 'bogeyman' and all bad things were labelled communist, so therefore if you label someone a communist they are automatically taken to be a bad person.

[rioters bloc]

hmmm thats true

i should have realised that but am fatigued and insomniacal :P

i was a bit confused, i find cartoons like recess and filmore and stuff usually really clever and metafictional, and more often than not satirical

[bolshevik butcher]

Actually i struggle to see wther the people the show is aimed at would get thta joke. Tintin was anti-communist propoganda nooooooooo! Not him as well :(

[_nin]

hmmm...i don't know about the joke thing, but in many episodes they promote that america is the best country in the world, like the episode the mysterious grokey.

[bolshevik butcher]

oh yeh. All american cartoons do a bit of that, except maybe the simpsons. I remmer when i used to watch that recess lol.

[rioters bloc]

hahaha you make me feel like a kid...i still watch it :( its great

and im 18

[bolshevik butcher]

lol, well ive only got council tv so maybe its on at a better time on your tv ;)
The best keids cartoon is faily odd parents anyway :D

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Look on the bright side, the smurfs was pumping pure communist propaganda into American households for years! :lol:

http://www.iamlost.com/features/smurfs/commies.shtml

[rioters bloc]

hahaha but the smurfs were scary!! :(


interesting site though ;)

[Intifada]

Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 7 2005, 04:10 PM
lol, well ive only got council tv so maybe its on at a better time on your tv ;)
The best keids cartoon is faily odd parents anyway :D
Nah man!

Spongebob is the best.

The show upset the Christian fundamentalists in America for "being pro-gay", or something along those lines.

[Intifada]

SpongeBob and the homosexual agenda (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/kathleenparker/kp20050127.shtml)

[Amusing Scrotum]

Just read that smurfs are Communists article and there are a few glaring flaws -


they were allowed only that position and having multiple functions in society was completely out of the question.


The moral of that episode was "Stick to what you do best" or to put it in more communistic terms, do the job you have been assigned and don't ask any questions.

On Brainy Smurf -


Since communism stresses unity through equality, anyone with arcane knowledge of matters which are beyond the scope of comprehension of the village idiot, must be classified as a dissident with the capability to disrupt the common good of the entire social order.

It would have been better to say that none of the Smurfs looked down on the other Smurfs because they couldn't do something some other Smurf could. That each Smurf was held in high regard as a valuable member of society.
Also if the Smurfs were Communist, there would be no Papa Smurf, this indicates to me the Smurfs were possibly in the transition stage between Socialism and Communism.

Also the writer of the article believes -


We, the children of the future, have allowed ourselves to be brainwashed by Hanna-Barbera, innocently sitting back and being taken in by The Smurfs theme song. I hate to sully your experience of something as pure and good, dare I say as downright delightful as The Smurfs

Why would Hanna-Barbara, a capatilist corporation, promote Communist ideals knowingly?

Also the Smurfs are blue, isn't that a Capitalist colour?

Personally I think the Smurfs were probably Humanists and Primativists. Also they didn't treat Smurfette with the equality which would be expected in a Communist Nation.


Tintin was anti-communist propoganda nooooooooo! Not him as well

Corporations seem intent on destroying my innocence. :angry:

[Redmau5]

Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 7 2005, 03:48 PM
like when i found out that tin tin was actually anti-communist propaganda after having a crush on him since i was like 6 :(
Tin tin was a nerd anyway. Im glad he's not a communist.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

@armchair.. yeah the site is def. pro-cappie.. there are alot more.. search communist smurfs.. the original site disappeared.. even Wikipedia talks about the theory.

They say SMURFs= Socialist Men Under the Red Father (Papa smurf, who wore red pants).. but that would make no sense, because the original name of the comic was Schtroumpf.

edit: this thread should probably go in chit chat.

[Amusing Scrotum]

I was just reading some more "Smurfs' are Communists" literature and found this statement a couple of times -


Brainy Smurf could represent Trotsky. He is the only one in the village who comes close to matching Papa's intellect - he is a thinker. With his round spectacles, he could also be a caricature of Trotsky. He is often isolated, ridiculed or even ejected from the commune of the village for his ideas. And of course, Trotsky was banished from the USSR.

Now if the Smurfs' are Communist. Then the writer seems to not like the Soviet Union very much. So he wouldn't demonise Trotsky. Could the Anarchists on this board tell me whether Brainy Smurf could represent an Anarchist around at Marx's time. Who Marx disliked. Maybe Brainy Smurf could represent another Socialist of that time. Maybe a more Utopian Socialist with whom Marx disagreed.

[Socialistpenguin]

Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 7 2005, 04:06 PM
oh yeh. All american cartoons do a bit of that, except maybe the simpsons. I remmer when i used to watch that recess lol.
Man, don't you know? That's got to be the biggest effluence of capitalist propaganda the world has ever known!

Ahem. Do you not remember the episode where Homer, Mr. Burns and Smithers go to Cuba? There is snide little remarks about communism through out the dialouge

Or maybe when the teacher says "What do we call a system were everyone is equal but really they're not?
Communism!"

It's hard to know where the Simpsons creators stand politically. On the one hand, when Bart gets an elephant, and tramples through The Democrat Convention (with signs such as "We can't govern") and the Republican convention (with signs like "We're pure evil!" and "We want what's worse for everyone!"), but on the other, you get commie bashing here, there and everywhere.

P.s. My 100th post! Go me! :P

[bolshevik butcher]

I didnt say it was pro-communist. I said that it wasnt pro-american. Hell its all just cartoons anyway. Your reading way too mutch into the smurfs i think.

[Entrails Konfetti]

Yeah Armchair looked too much looking into the damned cartoons.

Although, I like the 1967 Hanna-Barbera cartoons,such as; Bird-Man, Space Ghost and the Herculoids. These cartoons were so weird, had shitty plots and horrendeous animation. You couldn't not love them!

Next, I expect to hear how the hobbits were primitive communists.

[bolshevik butcher]

Anyone seen any of the antic-ommunist cpt america things. There brilliant

[Amusing Scrotum]

Next, I expect to hear how the hobbits were primitive communists.

Don't forget the tweenies, they have to be fascists. :P

[TheReadMenace]

I think that we need to provide an in-depth Marxist analysis of the Simpsons.


Andrew

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

The sad part is someone actually did an indepth analysis of the 'pyschology in the Simpsons" :rolleyes:

The Simpsons and Philosophy: The D'oh! of Homer (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0812694333/103-8170104-3299010?v=glance)

[MoscowFarewell]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 03:43 PM
ok, so this morning before school i was watching recess (the disney kids show) and well there was this new perfect kid who everybody hated because he outdid everybody, anyway so all the other kids are plotting against him and one of the kids say "lets tell miss finster hes a comunist", to say the least i was gob smacked is comunist propaganda always this blatant in the usa?
NOOOO! I LOVE RECESS! YOU LIE! YOU LIE!

[red_orchestra]

http://oldamericancentury.org/crusade1.jpg

...sometimes posters just speak for themselves

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by Makaveli_05+Sep 8 2005, 03:05 AM--> (Makaveli_05 @ Sep 8 2005, 03:05 AM)
rioters [email protected] 7 2005, 03:48 PM
like when i found out that tin tin was actually anti-communist propaganda after having a crush on him since i was like 6 :(
Tin tin was a nerd anyway. Im glad he's not a communist. [/b]
tin tin was NOT a nerd


tin tin was HOT

[3rdworldcasualty]

Looks like the us propaganda think tanks are using any available means to counter propaganda progressives and if that means using a children's cartoon they'd do it reactionaries act like that all the time.

[Commandante_Ant]

Originally posted by h&[email protected] 7 2005, 04:49 PM
Don't be bothered about it. its not even propaganda.
Its just a joke playing on the old propaganda idea of the communist 'bogeyman' and all bad things were labelled communist, so therefore if you label someone a communist they are automatically taken to be a bad person.
Well said. I wholeheartedly agree. For many years, if you were different from everyone else and you went against the grain, then you were a communist. Using the word communist immediately conjures up bad feelings in many societies...they dont know how wrong they are. I myself am not a communist, i am a socialist. But i respect their ideals.

[Redmau5]

Originally posted by rioters bloc+Sep 8 2005, 01:59 AM--> (rioters bloc @ Sep 8 2005, 01:59 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 03:05 AM

rioters [email protected] 7 2005, 03:48 PM
like when i found out that tin tin was actually anti-communist propaganda after having a crush on him since i was like 6 :(
Tin tin was a nerd anyway. Im glad he's not a communist.
tin tin was NOT a nerd


tin tin was HOT [/b]
Tin tin was such a nerd. He got beat up by other cartoons for his nerdy behaviour.

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by Makaveli_05+Sep 9 2005, 01:06 AM--> (Makaveli_05 @ Sep 9 2005, 01:06 AM)
Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 8 2005, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 03:05 AM

rioters [email protected] 7 2005, 03:48 PM
like when i found out that tin tin was actually anti-communist propaganda after having a crush on him since i was like 6 :(
Tin tin was a nerd anyway. Im glad he's not a communist.
tin tin was NOT a nerd


tin tin was HOT
Tin tin was such a nerd. He got beat up by other cartoons for his nerdy behaviour. [/b]
*holds hands tightly over ears*


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