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Social Greenman
6th September 2005, 00:45
I thought all of you Anarchist would enjoy this article:

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtl...on/12564669.htm (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/12564669.htm)

NEW ORLEANS - In the absence of information and outside assistance, groups of rich and poor banded together in the French Quarter, forming "tribes" and dividing up the labor.

As some went down to the river to do the wash, others remained behind to protect property. In a bar, a bartender put stitches into the torn ear of a robbery victim.

Although mold and contagion grew in the muck that engulfed most of the city, something else sprouted in this most decadent of American neighborhoods - humanity.

"Some people became animals," Vasilioas Tryphonas said Sunday as he sipped a hot beer in Johnny White's Sports Bar on Bourbon Street. "We became more civilized."

While hundreds of thousands fled the city before the storm, many refused to leave the Vieux Carre, or old quarter. It is built on some of the highest ground around.

Katrina blew off roof slates and knocked down some already-unstable buildings, but otherwise left the 18th and 19th century homes with their trademark iron balconies intact.

Tired of waiting for trucks to come with food and water, residents turned to each other.

Johnny White's is famous for never closing, even during a hurricane. The doors don't even have locks.

Since the storm, it has become more than a bar. Along with the warm beer and shots, the bartenders passed out scrounged military Meals Ready to Eat and bottled water.

For some, the bar also has become a hospital. Tryphonas, who restores buildings in the Quarter, left the neighborhood briefly Saturday. Someone hit him in the head with a two-by-four and stole his last $5.

When Tryphonas showed up at Johnny White's with his left ear split in two, Joseph Bellomy - a customer pressed into service as a bartender - put a wooden spoon between Tryphonas' teeth and used a needle and thread to sew it up.

A few blocks away, a dozen people in three houses got together and divided the labor. One group went to the Mississippi River to haul water, one cooked, one washed the dishes.

On Sunday, four tour buses rolled into the Quarter. National Guardsmen told residents they had one hour to gather their belongings and get a ride out. Four of the tribe members decided to leave.

Organic Revolution
6th September 2005, 02:21
i love it how when they fall into anarchy, they say they become more civilized

The Feral Underclass
6th September 2005, 09:46
You see how natural it is for human beings to organise themselves without hierarchy.

Ownthink
6th September 2005, 20:24
Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 6 2005, 05:04 AM
You see how natural it is for human beings to organise themselves without hierarchy.
Too bad nobody else does :(

MKS
6th September 2005, 20:28
I doubt you can use a few days of organization as an example of humanities capability to thrive without forming hirearchy. Im sure if the people in New Orleans were left like that for an extended period of time, there would have been a "government" formed etc. It is inevitable. Humanity always creates hirearchy

The Feral Underclass
6th September 2005, 21:24
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 08:46 PM
I doubt you can use a few days of organization as an example of humanities capability to thrive without forming hirearchy.
Not on its own no. But it's yet another example of how human beings organise themselves without hierarchy.


Im sure if the people in New Orleans were left like that for an extended period of time, there would have been a "government" formed etc.

Anything can be defined as a government. It doesn't necessarily mean that it would be hierarchical.


It is inevitable. Humanity always creates hirearchy

But there are many groups of humans, being apart of that humanity, who don't always create hierarchy. Are those people an anomily?

Clarksist
7th September 2005, 03:58
Humanity always creates hierarchy


Always?

We have only had hirearchy when we needed it to produce the right antagonisms for class dominance.

Although there is hardly order in New Orleans.

bed_of_nails
7th September 2005, 05:03
It's evidence Redstar2000 is still alive.

bombeverything
7th September 2005, 06:38
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 07:46 PM
Im sure if the people in New Orleans were left like that for an extended period of time, there would have been a "government" formed etc. It is inevitable. Humanity always creates hirearchy

I would like to see you attempt to prove how this is innate trait, rather than a learnt response. In their daily lives, human beings manage to organize their own lives without being told what to do. People only really notice the government when it is interfering in their lives, and for some reason feel that everything would be utter chaos if the government ceased to exist (even though in reality they do most things on their own). Socially, we can also organise without authority. If this wasn’t the case, we would 'need' police to help us catch the bus, make friends, and line up to go to the toilet.

We are told by those who hold power that we need them, and people fall for it.

TheReadMenace
8th September 2005, 04:17
My manager the other day made a pretty stupid statement.

He said, 'I bet all those anarchists that think that without the government people will just get along, are really choking on it now.'

:rolleyes:

Andrew

bombeverything
8th September 2005, 04:21
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 03:35 AM
My manager the other day made a pretty stupid statement.

He said, 'I bet all those anarchists that think that without the government people will just get along, are really choking on it now.'

:rolleyes:

Andrew

They hand out these shitty newspapers on the train for free here and the other day the caption on the front cover was ANARCHY. That was all. I fear that this view is a common one.

Organic Revolution
8th September 2005, 14:40
Originally posted by bombeverything+Sep 7 2005, 09:39 PM--> (bombeverything @ Sep 7 2005, 09:39 PM)
[email protected] 8 2005, 03:35 AM
My manager the other day made a pretty stupid statement.

He said, 'I bet all those anarchists that think that without the government people will just get along, are really choking on it now.'

:rolleyes:

Andrew

They hand out these shitty newspapers on the train for free here and the other day the caption on the front cover was ANARCHY. That was all. I fear that this view is a common one. [/b]
yeah i saw a paper like that on the train today, and people were discussing that anarchy is chaos.

rioters bloc
8th September 2005, 14:44
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 01:39 PM


They hand out these shitty newspapers on the train for free here and the other day the caption on the front cover was ANARCHY. That was all. I fear that this view is a common one.
are you in sydney? and if so are you talking about those annoying mx newspapers?

ARGH such shit propaganda, and its such a fucking waste of paper too.

it makes me so angry cos you then see those papers littered on the street, even tho it says on the front to please recycle. people aren't even decent enough to find a rubbish bin, let alone a recycle one

bombeverything
8th September 2005, 16:18
Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 8 2005, 02:02 PM
are you in sydney? and if so are you talking about those annoying mx newspapers?

ARGH such shit propaganda, and its such a fucking waste of paper too.

it makes me so angry cos you then see those papers littered on the street, even tho it says on the front to please recycle. people aren't even decent enough to find a rubbish bin, let alone a recycle one

I am from Melbourne but we have the shitty things as well. I have never seen the "please recycle" comment though I will look out for it next time, how stupid. Have you ever read any of the letters inside them? Full of rednecks and people complaining about missing the train or someone failing to give up their seat to an elderly man two weeks ago.

:rolleyes:

Camarada
8th September 2005, 23:18
Originally posted by Social [email protected] 6 2005, 12:03 AM
"Some people became animals," Vasilioas Tryphonas said Sunday as he sipped a hot beer in Johnny White's Sports Bar on Bourbon Street. "We became more civilized."


Who became animals?

Clarksist
9th September 2005, 03:30
They hand out these shitty newspapers on the train for free here and the other day the caption on the front cover was ANARCHY. That was all. I fear that this view is a common one.


It is intensely common to think Anarchism = Dissorder.

Anything Leftist has bad connotations in the capitalist lexicon. That's just the way they've made it.