shoplifting techniques

[Organic Revolution]

anybody got any? post them here..im to tired to write it all out right now, but..

when looking for cameras look only with your eyes, not with your head, or risk looking suspicious.

leave the isle for a new one before you pocket your newly acciured items.

some stores have a no chase policy (most B&N's) so if you can make it off the premisis, they cant chase you.

[Organic Revolution]

somthing i found:

The Art of Shoplifting
Shoplifting is a topic that is practically relevant to many and it should therefore not become an exclusive craft confined to a small shoplifting elite. On the contrary, shoplifting is an art that deserves the widest possible dissemination. For your convenience we have printed below a step by step guide to shoplifting. Good luck.
Within capitalism, most of us are either (1) alienated from our labour and hence dependent on the ruling classes for commodities as basic as food and clothing, (2) excluded from the division of labour, in which case we are likewise dependant on the State, or (3) performing unpaid and/or unrecognised labour and hence dependant on patriarchal relations for food, clothing, etcetera. In any case, our access to resources is severely limited by contemporary relations of domination. One partial solution to this problem may be to STEAL.

Sadly, however, many people living precariously on low incomes tend to either: (1) avoid shoplifting for anachronistic moral and/or ethical reasons; or (2) remain ignorant of the better methods and techniques of shoplifting, thus failing to maximise their lifting potential.

From the onset, the golden rule of theft should be enunciated: NEVER STEAL FROM SOMEBODY WHO COULD CONCEIVABLY BE A COMRADE. Hence kicking into a house on Bell Street with a beaten up old Mazda in the yard is irresponsible and counter-revolutionary!

Be careful, too, about taking stuff from small 'corner store' type shops -- you could be ripping off someone in a situation not dissimilar to your own. On the whole, it is best to play it safe and go straight for the big corporate fuckers.

Some people will suggest that shoplifters are a selfish breed, since 'we all pay for it in the end' through inflated prices to cover losses and so forth. However, comrades, this and closely analogous arguments are used to just ify lowering wages, breaking unions, lowering corporate taxation and taxation on the rich and corporate sector we may as well sell ourselves into bonded slavery now, or join the Liberal Party.

No, the injunction against stealing from capitalism is itself a capitalist ideology and should be spurned as such. Although we have been taught that 'thou shalt not steal', an order historically backed by threats of divine retribution, this should not for one minute stop us from taking the redistribution of wealth into our own hands. Believe me, no-one is likely to do it for us.

What follows is a list of effective methods and observations that may prove useful.

Preparing oneself for the big haul:
1. If possible, you should always have some money on you when intending to shoplift, because if you've got none, it's rather hard to argue that to steal the item was a spontaneous decision. As a result, if you've got no money and are caught shoplifting you are more than likely to be charged for burglary as well as theft.

2. Buying something at the same time that you steal stuff doesn't necessarily ensure success. Approaching staff for items you are absolutely sure they don't have is just as good. Think of something that you know they don't have (i.e. a doona cover with a specific pattern on it or something equally obscure) and pretend that you are looking for this, so that you have an excuse for being there. If staff are ever suspicious of you or ask if they can help you, ask them if they've got the thing you are sure they don't have. Never screw this up -- if you do you will have to buy the item or they may realise that you are there to steal.

3. It is always a good idea to carry a bag although you should never stash anything in it -- if security/sales staff are suss on you the first place that they'll check is your bag and it may just get you off the hook if they can't find anything suspicious inside of it.

4. Remember that there is no such thing as a standard store detective -- there is no qualifying dress code, age, race, gender or class. Grandma will bust you this week and next week it'll be a 5 year old kid.

5. Just as there is no typical store detective nor is there a standard shoplifter. Security do not go looking for the poorly dressed people. They may pick on you out of boredom, but remember, only an unsuccessful store detective picks on poorly dressed people. By the same token don't believe the stale myth that suits + dresses = more successes; security anticipate that professional shoplifters will dress up a bit. Wear whatever you want.

On entering the maze:
1. As soon as you enter the store, suss out the sales people. First impressions often count here. You could find a valuable blind-eye turning ally in younger or less-affluent employees. Alternatively, an employee can often stand out as a more wishy-washy gullible individual -- so even if they see you they are likely to be too gutless to mention it, either to you or to security.

2. Don't be put off by signs such as 'shoplifters will be prosecuted' or 'security police patrol this store'. Often this is just bluff anyway, and in any case there is no security measure that cannot be undone by a clever shoplifter or a quick talker. Do, however, keep your eye on security and be on the lookout for video surveillance cameras.

3. Try to find where the video surveillance monitors are and who is watching them; often they are not even looking at them. See if you can get a glance at their monitor. Often it is one monitor hooked up to 20 cameras which changes sequentially (every 30 seconds or so). Other times it's one guy in a room looking at 50 screens while reading the paper or glued to the box. These monitors are usually pretty small and have a wide aperture, showing more of the room but not enough detail to adequately see what you are up to.

4. It is a good idea to keep your back to the camera as much as possible without looking suspicious. Check out cameras (hold-up cameras) are often set up to check on employees, so they are not hard to keep your back turned to.

Blind-spots and other lifting techniques:
1. A blind-spot is a section of the store where you are barely visible and can thus feel free to both dump and collect stuff, without fear of being seen. Display units can make perfect blind-spots -- they ensure security is confident they have their eye on you, when in fact they can only see your top half -- at the same time they enable you to keep your eye on security. For these reasons, the best blind-spots are usually below the chest -- around waist high. Blind-spots are good for loading into the lip of your jeans or into a jacket.

2. Make sure your blind-spot is not under surveillance. Never hang around your blind-spot for too long. Most of all, be careful to never lead security to your blind-spot.

3. A good method is to take everything you want to your blind-spot and collect it all later in one go, or better still get someone else to collect it for you. Getting someone else to collect for you can be a great system, particularly with exchanges -- which I'll come to later. If you are really pedantic, or you think that they are watching you, then load up, go to the toilets and pass the stuff under the wall/partition of the cubicle to a waiting friend in an adjoining cubicle and get them to leave with it.

(No item 4 in original text -- ed.)

5. Speaking of dunnies and change-rooms, one of the oldest tricks in the book is to put more than one garment on a hanger (works particularly well with women's underwear), go to the change-rooms and put the garment underneath what you are wearing. Alternatively, if you are a woman, you can slip your old bra on a hanger and put on the new one. DonÕ t be put off by the staff as you enter the change-rooms -- they are usually quite disinterested and so long as the number of hangers you exit with matches the little plastic number they've given you they'll be satisfied.

6. On the subject of women's underwear, the lingerie department is ideally suited to male shoplifters -- not only is it the perfect excuse for looking embarrassed or suspicious (they have come to expect this), but staff are less likely to harass you by trying to help you and will be more sympathetic generally.

Exchanging crap for more crap
Exchanging things -- that is, taking the redistribution of wealth into your own hands by refunding yourself for an item you never paid for, or swapping something you stole that you don't want for something you do want, or swapping something that you don't want that is unstealable and therefore refundable -- is a whole new ball game.

1. If you plan to steal something and then make an exchange always take stuff that people are likely to take back like sheets, or other obscure household items. If questioned you can say to them "as if I'm gonna keep the receipt, I didn't plan to bring it back". Books and other small but expensive items such as computer software are also great exchangeables.

2. Stealing women's underwear and cosmetics are the perfect alibi for male shoplifters who specialise in exchanges. Male customers always fuck up buying stuff for their girlfriends/wives/mothers and when it comes to lingerie, it's just too easy for a guy to look goofy, have sales staff sympathise and all too quickly agree to exchange or refund the items. This works particularly well around Xmas time when you can tell them you bought it for your mother but she already had that one.

3. Never take an exchange item to the store you stole it from and make sure the other store (e.g. Myers in Doncaster as opposed to Northland) has the same item before you take it back.

4. Make sure you have chosen your item before you approach anyone for an exchange. Also, tell the people in the first department that you want an exchange without mentioning receipts -- they should send you down to the appropriate department for your other item and then ring up this department providing a referral, which if you are lucky will mean you do not have to provide a receipt given that everything appears legitimate.

5. The first time you exchange a stolen item for another product make sure you get something unstealable in return, like a video, watch, or something else kept behind a counter, so that the second time you do it, even if you don't get an exchange receipt they will not suspect that it is stolen.

6. Exchange receipts are a pain in the arse. Sometimes smart arse sales people will write a cross the original docket 'no original receipt' which is a problem, so if you have a bit of money on you, it is a good idea to exchange for something that costs a little bit more so that they have to give you a cash receipt.

7. Don't freak out if they call security while you are acting out an exchange -- as returns will often require security's signature this is quite standard procedure and nothing to worry about.

8. If you're having problems getting an exchange, big department stores normally have consumer rights people located upstairs somewhere -- they can usually be contacted by information telephones. These are people with big egos who like to wield power and the sales staff, who are much lower down the hierarchy, are usually pretty freaked out by this power. If you do get the ego from upstairs on side, they will organise a sales person to look after you and after the egomaniac goes up upstairs again, they sure will -- because the sales person does not want to reprimanded by the same person from upstairs more than once, you will be practically able to get them to do anything that you want them to. A good technique is to tell the person upstairs a different story to the one that you tell the sales person. You can get angry at this stage and tell them that they fucked you around, that you don't want an exchange any more and that you want a refund now and they will usually comply.

9. Be wary of the long term employee -- you've got to know when to stop. Be particularly wary of the head of sales or middle management who have been working there for a long time (sometimes 20 years or more) and are not as scared of the big guys from upstairs as are the newer employees. You can often convince some of the younger staff that they are allowed to do refunds if you tell them that you used to work there.

10. Another commonly used technique is to take an empty bag from the same store with a receipt in it for previously paid for items and then nick the same stuff, which gives you the perfect alibi.

11. Better still, if you've got some money, find two things that are worth however much you've got, take them out of the store and stash them somewhere, then go back in and buy the exact same items. While leaving the checkout, make a big deal about it. "Am I doing the right thing? Will she like it? Will it fit him? etcetera" and then "what the heck!" (Make sure you don't go overboard and push them to mention keeping the receipt or worst of all mention it yourself!) Pay for it. About half an hour to a couple of hours later (not too long) take the stuff back to the same sales people and they'll usually give you cash without a receipt because they remember selling it to you. If you pull it off you've got a cash receipt and your stolen goods which you can exchange at another store.

Leaving the store safely:
1. Always double back just as you are about to leave the store so that you can check if anyone is following you (99.9% of the time they will follow you out of the store before they approach you). Alternatively, go up and down an escalator or in a lift and press every button in the lift and it will be obvious if anyone is following you.

2. If people are watching you, whatever you do, do not try to discreetly dump stuff unless you are absolutely sure that you can get away with it. If caught dumping stuff they usually won't charge you but they may fuck you around for a few hours.

3. If you are caught dumping stuff never let a store detective know it was because of them. Always make out it was a result of a sudden guilty conscience. Never let a store detective know that you know that they are on to you, because they won't put them on you the next time. That way you get to know store security and are able to keep your eye on them as much as you can.

4. If you want to have a bit of fun and don't plan to continue shoplifting that day, or ever, or you just don't give a shit, go up to a store detective and treat them like a sales person, asking them for help etcetera. It is just as embarrassing for them to be caught as it is for you. It is always a good thing to break their spirits or at least bring them down every now and again. Alternatively, use reverse psychology on them. Say "I'm going down to such and such department. I'll see you down there". Often they'll be too embarrassed that they've been busted and think that you won't do it now that you're being watched and you will have the run of the mill.

5.NEVER GET TOO CONFIDENT or you will start to make silly mistakes.

The end:
Finally, if you get caught -- lie your teeth out! Never admit to premeditation. Always say that the opportunity arose, so you took it. Don't act tough or be a smart arse. Cry. Bawl. Admit a guilty conscience. Beg them not to call the cops. Tell them that CSV will take your kids off you and then weep.

Even though some stores say they have a policy to call the police it is not necessarily true and they may, after lots of tears and admissions of guilt, just get you to sign a statement which says you'll never enter that store again. If the cops do arrive, it's a good idea to act scared shitless because they may assume you're a first offender and not bother to check your record. Don't antagonise the filth -- it is their personal discretion as to how bad you get busted.

You are most likely to be charged with 'theft' if caught shoplifting, but you can be charged with 'burglary' as well if you don't have any money on you. 'Equipped to steal' is what you will be charged with if, for example, you have a slit in the lining of your jacket for concealing stolen goods. 'Obtaining financial advantage' and 'deception' are what you are likely to be charged with as well as 'theft', if caught exchanging stolen items.

[EneME]

some tips me and my clepto friends came across were helpful:

-carry teeny foldable scissor-type tool to cut a slit along the seams of clothing to take off sensor. from working in retail, i know they're REQUIRED to be put on the seams and easier to sew up afterwards.

-stuffing your body usually works in dressing rooms, just don't exaggerate.

-usually you can hide hangers in dressing rooms (above mirrors) or you can put multiple ones inside a shirt on a hanger and leave it in the room.

-you can go to a store with a bag from the store and stuff it when you walk around the store. you can say they were a gift and exchange it for store credit and get something else. (don't trip if they ask for your address/ID, its just required to make sure the cashier isn't making that person up)

-sensors can usually be taken off with rubber bands or nylons.

-sensors are usually dried out ink btw, they're usually really old.

-at Ross or discount places you can usually change price tags of stuff (be sure its a similar item). sticker ones are tricky, but if you look enough you'll find one easy to take off. the tag ones are easier by ripping the tag on your item off and breaking the plastic of a cheaper price tag without tearing the hole and putting that tag in the smaller tab of the plastic of your item. (dunno, hard to explain...pm me if you wanna know)

-don't stay in any store for too long, just be in and out..

[novemba]

Haven't read any of the others but:

1.Don't get cocky.
2.Dress nicely.
3.If possible pretend to be on cell-phone.
4.Never park near the store, if possible park in a different parking-lot.
5.Take a 1 gallon zip-lock bag and layer it with 1)aluminium, 2)duct tape and then tape on the inside of an article of clothing, this protects the alarm from going off when you leave the store.
6.Always smile and use good manners, after a reason you have a good reason to be happy!
7.Bring a friend to look sketchy as possible, most AP (asset protection) people focus on one person thats looking sketchy for minutes at a time, this gives you time to stuff.

[rioters bloc]

i usually stuff items inside my hoodie or pants [thank god for baggy clothes], i usually buy something too if only a chocolate bar or whatever. i tend to joke around with the cashiers as well. as a cashier myself a lot of the time i know someones stolen something but never say anything, they usually dont unless theyre real hardcore. but if youre nice to them theyre less likely to :)

[Donnie]

I can't be arsed with the secret gorilla tactics. Snatch and run is the best option, that’s if it’s a small shop. There’s no point going into a supermarket and getting something from the back and then running from the back of the supermarket to the front and then out because you’ll most likely be cornered by the rent-o-cop.

[Karl Marx's Camel]

some stores have a no chase policy (most B&N's) so if you can make it off the premisis, they cant chase you.

B&N?

[Organic Revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 04:30 PM


some stores have a no chase policy (most B&N's) so if you can make it off the premisis, they cant chase you.

B&N?
barnes and noble.. if you live in the states... not sure if they have B&N in other parts of the world.

[Free Palestine]

If the clerk is working solo just grab it and run, he's not going to leave the store unattended.

[Organic Revolution]

and if he does, have some freinds in to get more shit and run the other way

[novemba]

B&N is so easy....I recently got Guerrilla Warfare, US ARMY sruvival manual, and art of war from the little thingy before you actually enter the store

[Raisa]

And it doesnt beep or nothing when you leave?

[KC]

Yeah, don't they have those things in the middle of the books that you gotta take out? Also, is that no-chase policy true about all B&N's in all states?

[visceroid]

i dont think ive ever stolen anythign from a shop, i think im too unlucky, im the sort of person who will be driving at night, see one set of headlights in the distance behind me, contemplate the odds of it being a cop, put my foot on the accelerator, then see flashing red and blue in my rear view mirror.

though i would like to try it some time

[The Grey Blur]

Think of something that you know they don't have (i.e. a doona cover with a specific pattern on it or something equally obscure) and pretend that you are looking for this, so that you have an excuse for being there. If staff are ever suspicious of you or ask if they can help you, ask them if they've got the thing you are sure they don't have. Never screw this up -- if you do you will have to buy the item or they may realise that you are there to steal.
Heh. Did that once regarding Matallica's film, ya know the monster thingy...

Anyway, I'd encourage anyone to shoplift; once you take that first step it's extremely liberating.

The adrenaline rush itself is usually worth more than whatever you stole anyway :)

[Simotix]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 07:49 PM
5.Take a 1 gallon zip-lock bag and layer it with 1)aluminium, 2)duct tape and then tape on the inside of an article of clothing, this protects the alarm from going off when you leave the store.
That works? 0_o How many layers?

[The Grey Blur]

Don't listen to Novemba, he's pretty full of bullshit. Just follow the simple instructions in that guide.

Aluminium layers indeed... :rolleyes:

[comradesteele]

i work in a small gorvery shop and what is most suspious is when a person keeps walking in and out the shop, also don't be in large groups and if you are don't suddenly go all silent. in small shops the cctv is not normally watched unless there is an incident. also just pretending to be forget ful and steal small stuff should work. just walk out casually with out paying.

[cccpcommie]

i work at best buy..the loss provention guy keeps an eye on teens..ones with baggy clothes..kids in groups...stuff like that..i have a department key that opens shit up(it has a beeper tag)..like locked boxes..once i walked out the store with it in my pocket it didnt go off because my cell phone was next to it..weird shit..oh yea if you are gunna steal ask your good friends where they work where blind spots are and shit and how to steal..thats the best way..

[Freigemachten]

Hey, I read in some similar topic about stealing spray paint, that its good to hit Lowes or Home Depot cuz they have no camera's and no chace policy. Came to find out, not true. I didn't get busted or anything, thaty'd suck, met a girl that works there and asked her about it. She seemed rather shocked at the sheer bluntness of the question but assured me that neither was true. Also surplus stores, such as Sams and Costco will chase you down, course you'd have to be some kinda dumbass to try to steal in bulk, unless you were to open up bigger packages and take units but I wouldn't suggest it. If you notice a shop keeper watchin you and theres more than one be a teen/young adult, get snappy with them and leave, its not worth gettin caught. My personal fav when i'm bein followed/watched is asking the clerk if I can help them find anything. they tend to get embarassed, as though they were being subtle and you wouldn't notice your new shadow.
I think B&N has those shelves in the main entrance way before you're actualy in the store specificaly for shoplifters. The put the crap they can't sell otherwise out there and hope some one takes it, I would however suggest you look on your way in, go around inside, and take on your way out.
Good hunting.

[STREETasmyCanvas]

THIS IS THE SUPREME TACTIC

Go to any department store with a little outside garden area. Cut a space in the gate with bolt-cutters. Get a friend to go around the outside. Slide any merchandise next to the hole, but not actually outside. Get your friend to take it. Leave.

EDIT:

I'm talking about spray paint mostly, and they come a dozen a box, so just take the whole box instead of seperate cans. Also, that aluminum foil shit doesn't work with all things, only the magnetic ones...

[Xvall]

Is this a liability? (As in, is this legal to discuss?)

[Organic Revolution]

not sure..

[The Grey Blur]

The Black Helicopters are coming as we speak...

[which doctor]

I stole a traffic cone today off a busy street in a nearby town. I just picked it up off the ground near this intersection, walked to a friends car, and dumped it in her truck.

I got quite the rush.

[dannie]

off topic: i woke up one day with a traffic cone next to my bed and didn't remember where it came from, but those things do rock, thinking of mounting it to my wall and putting a lamp inside

back on topic

i stole candy in a big supermarket once, i just put my hand in one of those bins, grabbed a lot of candy, put it in my pocket and walked outside

[Global_Justice]

an inside man is the best way to do it.

if you know someone who works there, get them to cover you. easy :D

but only steal from large corporations, not small corner shop owners, please :P

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Never wait around until there's noone around you; shop detectives know that's what amateur shoplifters always wait for. Scary as it may be, you have to slip the stuff in your stash with people around. Don't hang out too long on one spot, that'll raise suspicion. Leave the shop immediately if you feel that something is not right: You can't get arrested for suddenly leaving. Remember that legally, you're only stealing once you've taken the product past the cash register without paying. If you're caught slipping something down your pants, they can't actually sew you. Of course, mostly they don't sew you, they just force you to pay the item(s), and because most shoplifters are so relieved that they're not being sewed, they don't stand up to the detectives, even knowing they can't be forced to pay.

[Eoin Dubh]

Shoplifting really is not worth the hassle of arrest, court, and police record, all just for some little thing you can hide on your person.

That said, there are certain bad guys like Wal-Mart who have it coming.
Those concave mirrors located near the ceiling in corners which the clerks use to watch you can also be used to watch the clerks, use reflections in metal flashing or display/window glass to look behind you.
Dress for success! Hoodies, half zipped up coats with a tight waistline (like bomber jackets) and baggy or army style pants with big pockets are all giveaways for store security. If you look like you have $$ you will be under less suspicion.
Wait until just before closing when the underpaid staff are more focused on going home. A good trick is to play dumb and put an item in plain view like under your arm and just walk out boldly..."Ooops silly me" you say if confronted.
Eating is not considered shoplifting so chow down in the bulk food section of grocery stores, all they can do is kick you out.
Shoplifting from the meat section is super risky, they will watch this area for sure.

Check out Abbie Hoffmans "Steal this book" for more tips.
Again most stuff you can shoplift is worth an hour or so wage. It is not worth it.
Punitive shoplifting is good, but damaging the goods in store may be better and less risky.

[Global_Justice]

the idea of walking out of the store with the item in plain view is a good one, especially if the store is busy, walk past a checkout where the clerk looks like they don't give a fuck about the store and hate being there, either walk right past and don't look at them, or, if they do look at you, just say confidentely, "i've already paid for this" and carry on walking

[Global_Justice]

a less risky way of doing it is to buy something, leave the store, come back later, with the receipt and the carrier bag, get the same item off the shelf put it in the bag, take it to the counter and return it, if you have a receipt, as long as they didn't see you just get it off the shelf, then they have to refund it.

you'd be surprised how easily it works. as long as you don't get greedy and keep it at items of around £40 value then it's easy.

[Wanted Man]

Never shoplifted. Might as well do it next time I go buy stuff, if only for the rush.

[Iroquois Xavier]

I havent shoplifted for a while but i miss the rush! :D

Be Calm and Confident, Dont Panic just find what your looking for and dont delay the exit, you will arouse suspicion. This always worked for me. :)

[commiecrusader]

Here's the top tip: Don't do it.

It only makes life harder for a worker somewhere in the world, be it in that store, in a factory, or where the materials came from miles and miles away. If you care about the working class, then don't do it.

[Djehuti]

The workers don't really suffer from shoplifting, bet most steal themselves (maybe not shoplifting though). I know many did at my work place.

Shoplifting is great and sometimes even necessary if you live on a small wage. I don't see why communists should be against shoplifting, it's just the negating of the commodity form, and thats what we are for, right?

[commiecrusader]

The workers don't really suffer from shoplifting, bet most steal themselves (maybe not shoplifting though). I know many did at my work place.
Maybe not in the short term but in the end the cost always comes back to bite them in the arse. Once the company starts to notice the losses, they aren't going to be happy with it are they? Hence the introduction of staff searches which infringe the rights of the workers, increased observation/reduction of freedom at the workplace, and even refusing to increase or potentially decreasing/passing the costs on to the workforce. Please explain how shoplifting does anything to make the bourgeoisie suffer, propogate change, or get our message out there in any form of positive way.


Shoplifting is great
No it's not. No-one who actually cares will know you do it and even if they did, it doesn't send out a very good message. It is pointless and juvenile.


I don't see why communists should be against shoplifting
Because it goes against some of our core beliefs (see above) and does nothing to aid the movement.


it's just the negating of the commodity form, and thats what we are for, right?
That's a small part of 'what we are for', and even so, shoplifting does absolutely nothing significant to aid the process of negating the commodity form. Plus it goes against more than it supports. Grow up (and I mean mentally, I realise some older people shoplift too).

[leftist resistance]

I think it would be better if we boycott giant corkpoorrates goods altogether.

Don't shoplift on those small stores.they're paying the rents from what they earn.but big corkpoorrates,im not sure.you decide.

anyway,i think it's morally wrong to steal.especially on other ppl.

but if you do tt on big corkpoorrates..then,umm..consider yourself a robin hood :D

[Charles]

heres a tip for you in australia, my freind tells me that the sensors at safeway only react to items over $10 dont take my word for it but who knows some of you might find it comes in handy

[bed_of_nails]

In the Barnes and Noble music sections, the cameras almost never get the corners.

[Anarcho-Communist]

New Zealand is inhabited by a lot of natives otherwise known as Maoris. I have learnt a few techniques from them, there favourite place to shop lift from is possibly Pak n' Save a.k.a Pak n' Run, there techniques at acquiring these items is simply accomplished by the "5 finger discount". But my all time favourite would be this one summers day, I was walking down the road minding my own business and in a shop called "Coin Save" which is cheap enough as it is, were a group of natives, one grabbed a hat and everyone outside and inside shouted "RUN BRO, YOUR GONNA GET IT EASY CUZ" and he just accelerated like the worlds fastest indian and was gone, the shopkeeper didn't do anything.... :)

[anti-authoritarian]

Pick something up in your hand...
Walk to another aisle...
Look at it for a few seconds...
Shrug...
Put it in your pocket...
Then buy something and walk out...

If you get caught you can then say;

You had brought one from another shop, but you must have picked one up here forgetting you had already brought one, forgot you picked it up in the current store & so thought it was the one you brought from the previous store and thus put it in your pocket!

Be very polite, apologise for making an oversight, offer to put it back or pay for it / the mistake. It all confuses the hell out of them!

[Comrade J]

And what about when they ask where the one you already bought is?
Presumably you'd have to buy an item from another shop before you could steal another...
So say I bought a hat from a shop, did your method of 'accidentally taking' the same hat from another store... I'd now have two of the same hats, and I had paid for one of them. It would have been easier just to buy one hat.

[KappaDelta]

1) Rectangular packages and cargo pants. The package slumps to one side or the other, and lines up with a seam, making it all look nice and normal. I've found this works great with harddrives- grab the undoubtedly huge box the thing comes in, and walk to a blind spot to make the exchange into the welcoming embrace of cotton/polyester blend. Walk out with a one-hundred dollar item which is relatively hard to ID as stolen.

2) Baggy pants with a clothespin at the cuff to decrease the leg size near the ankle. Do this on the inside seam, and nobody notices that your pants are suddenly stuffed with a (preferrably non-plastic) amalgamation of items. This particular technique is good with lots of small items.

3) Buy something while you do it. I grab a candy bar or bag of chips and a soda, generally. Sometimes I'll buy a few hair ties or a pack of gum as well. Make it look as natural and boring as you can; the average "In the mood for munchies" run, with some other item tossed in that you "Need." Shell out two bucks to steal twenty.

4) It also pays to give off a Mary Jane vibe if you buy a single pack of cookies with your new-found cargo. If you're the overly kind type of stoner, then most cashiers will give you a humored look and send you on your way, paying more attention to the internal laugh that you've given them rather than your stash of goods.

[Sadena Meti]

1. Buy something you actually want and need from Branch A. (say, a stereo, a flat-screen monitor, etc.).

2. Keep the receipt.

3. Go to Branch B. Plain as day, pick up another of the same stereo. Then, carrying the item, browse in another department for a while. Then walk to the service desk, wait in line, and return it. Get your money back.

Works great because 1, you aren't physically stealing anything. Your actions are that of a normal shopper, so the theft-reduction team don't take any notice. 2, from the service desk perspective, you look normal, a customer with an item and a receipt. Because the left hand (theft reduction) and the right hand (service desk) don't know what the other is doing, you are in the clear.

Some stores, like Best Buy, stop this by putting a sticker on an item you bring in. Simple, steal some stickers, or walk in, get a sticker, walk out, peel it off. At a different branch of course. Though this sticker system was designed to prevent this fraud, it actually makes it easier, because they trust the sticker. If a clerk looks at your item and sees the sticker, it must be a return, and any suspicion must have been wrong. Unless they actually go and spend half an hour looking through the tapes.

Tip, works best in busy stores at busy times. Do it for high-end items, and if all fails, grab your receipt (if you paid by CC, otherwise you can leave it), and sprint for the exit (leaving the item as well).

Tip, works best with large items, things that can't be hidden so aren't shoplifting targets, like a stereo.

Sort of reverse-shoplifting, allows you to buy high-end items for free.

[TheDifferenceEngine]

You could pull a Robin Hood if you want, ya'know- steal from the massive earth-destroying corporate scumhole and give to the local homeless shelter.

[pastradamus]

The Best Shoplifting technique is to not shoplift at all. A store detective can only search you once you leave the shop. If he/she searches you and discovers nothing you can take them to court and win a big claim against the company. Pretend to put something under your coat and walk out.

Although I refuse to use this sleazy manouever I have seen it succeed several times.

[Sadena Meti]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 01:52 PM
The Best Shoplifting technique is to not shoplift at all. A store detective can only search you once you leave the shop. If he/she searches you and discovers nothing you can take them to court and win a big claim against the company. Pretend to put something under your coat and walk out.

Although I refuse to use this sleazy manouever I have seen it succeed several times.
I think I've just found a new passtime. If I'm waiting to meet someone, killing time, I'll go to Walmarts and look shifty, hold my coat oddly, then sprint out of the store.

Hours of fun.

[pastradamus]

HAHA, I used to work security and I have a great ability to pick these guys out, I even followed a guy outta the store and when he said "whats wrong? I didn't steal anything"....I said " Hey man, I just came out for a cigarette".

But 90% of security wont have a clue. I recall Group 4 security getting sued £ 7,000 grand by a hobo who went in put a bottle of wine under his coat and put it on the shelf as he sprinted out of the shop. Thats when he was searched..... :-)

[counterblast]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17, 2005 12:18 pm
And it doesnt beep or nothing when you leave?
Some books have alarm codes stuck in the pages. To remove these sit down and finger throught the pages; acting as if you're skim reading it, until you find the code. Then discard the code somewhere inconspicuous. The childrens section is a great place for this; because it generally doesn't have cameras. Just leave the store after that.

[counterblast]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2006 12:44 pm
Never wait around until there's noone around you; shop detectives know that's what amateur shoplifters always wait for. Scary as it may be, you have to slip the stuff in your stash with people around. Don't hang out too long on one spot, that'll raise suspicion. Leave the shop immediately if you feel that something is not right: You can't get arrested for suddenly leaving. Remember that legally, you're only stealing once you've taken the product past the cash register without paying. If you're caught slipping something down your pants, they can't actually sew you. Of course, mostly they don't sew you, they just force you to pay the item(s), and because most shoplifters are so relieved that they're not being sewed, they don't stand up to the detectives, even knowing they can't be forced to pay.
Most stores don't have shop detectives year-round. Most shop detectives work as seasonal empoyees; during Christmas time.

[counterblast]

I use this at Walmart. I get friends and relatives to give me the receipts for any items they bought at Walmart. I then enter the store and pick out the most expensive item(s) from that list, and retrieve it from the store. Next I walk up to customer service and "return" the items from the store.

This works at Target too. I've used it at Best Buy, but the manager gave me some problems. So what I did was threw a big fit in the store; saying that I was disgusted at the lack of service I was getting. It wasn't long before customers began rallying behind me, and under the pressure the manager gave me a refund.

[counterblast]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2005 06:45 am
THIS IS THE SUPREME TACTIC

Go to any department store with a little outside garden area. Cut a space in the gate with bolt-cutters. Get a friend to go around the outside. Slide any merchandise next to the hole, but not actually outside. Get your friend to take it. Leave.

EDIT:

I'm talking about spray paint mostly, and they come a dozen a box, so just take the whole box instead of seperate cans. Also, that aluminum foil shit doesn't work with all things, only the magnetic ones...
There are no other sort of security devices. Stores either use magnetic devices (ie: the white and metal sticker strips), and/or stain devices (a tag mostly found on clothes).

[counterblast]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2006 10:14 pm

Maybe not in the short term but in the end the cost always comes back to bite them in the arse. Once the company starts to notice the losses, they aren't going to be happy with it are they? Hence the introduction of staff searches which infringe the rights of the workers, increased observation/reduction of freedom at the workplace, and even refusing to increase or potentially decreasing/passing the costs on to the workforce. Please explain how shoplifting does anything to make the bourgeoisie suffer, propogate change, or get our message out there in any form of positive way.

Hence why labor unions exist.

And workforce will not be reduced because of shoplifting. Store workforce is necessary as most businesses have minimal amount of employees anyway; so if anything it will affect private company funds, and the net gain of the shareholders of a company. If anything. shoplifting will provide more work; (ie: increased security positions).

[La Comédie Noire]

Shop lifting, from my exprience, is very easy at large supermarkets. I have stolen cart loads of food from my local store just by simply wheeling it out of the door and they never seemed to notice! ( I once did it 2 times in one day)

The way I did it was i would fill up a carriage with food. Then i would casually walk around with it like i was doing a last minute check. Then i would leave through the enterance not barred by the register block. But i made absoulutley sure store managment wasn't near (once the carriage people saw me but since they weren't managers they didn't give a shit) . After that it was a simple matter of wheeling the cart on over into the next parking lot and taking my things.

Although this is more of an error on the store's part than an actual stradegy i still think it bares mentioning because you may have a super market near you with the same fault.

[Political_Chucky]

gotta becareful with that cart shit though. Theres usually specific days that grocery stores have their undercover shoppers watching customers. At Stator Bros. (grocery store throughout Southern California) they usually have them on sundays. They have a no chase policy, but sometimes workers will chase u if they feel like it.

[Chocobo]

Shoplifting...is one of the most beautiful things ever. The feeling of getting out of that corporate prison with stolen shit with you. My o my I love that feeling. The tactics mentioned in the beginning of this thread are good, but i tend to do the quick swaps. I usually steal food, drinks, or any little misscelaneous thing, but never clothes (Especially because if your stealing them from a superstore their gonna be sweatshop made).

For example i'll use walmart. Wore a hoody (Always am wearing a hoody, shoplift and anywhere :P ) and some Khaki's. Make myself look not so discreet (Khaki's = presentable...for some bullshit reason). For food and such it all depends on the size. If i'm stealing, lets say, a 2 liter of coke, I do th obvious thing. I remove it from its place and place it in my hoody pocket. After that I usually snag whatever food I like (Candy mostly, quite the candy fiend) and hold it right out in the open. For the walmart by me, near the entrance is a place for glasses of all kinds, so I walk right by the register and start checking out glasses. By having both of my non-legit items in the open the store greeter (Brainwashed) person normally won't check me. Now here's the sketchy part. If your stealing like I steal (Pretty dumb) then you know that the item checker robot voice is going to sound off and tell you to step back. Now this is where I like to use tactics. Normally, i'm with more then one person (Why the hell would I go to a place which treats their workers like shit on my own anyway?) so what we use is the "come on, its not for us" idea, where once my items cross the black rug, and the sensor goes off; my friend, standing closer to the store greeting person, simply says, "Its not for us, lets go". I then shrug, and we walk out. Now, mostly, that person by the door doesn't chase after us, since I stop and looked all scared, but had clearly paid for my items, they were in the open after all. The one time the person did, and told me to come back into the store, I said i'm sorry but I can't and I was picking these items up for my sick little brother and I have to get to him pronto. "I'll call security", well i'll already be fucking gone so HA! So were off and I win!

[counterblast]

This falls under the category of scamming, rather than shoplifting.

For those of you who are under 21; or those who just don't like paying high prices for alcohol; you can easily swap beer cans for soda cans (the kind in boxes). You end up paying only 1/4th the price you'd have normally paid for beer.

[liberationjunky]

I just stole a kickass knife from home depot. I dont no what i need it for buts its really cool and you never know when a knife might come in handy.

Sometimes when im bored ill just go steal a bunch of those bic lighters with the trippy designs on it just because i can.

Stealing tips
-wear cargo shorts
-wear a reasonably nice shirt (dont look like a thug or anything)
-stay calm, dont look nervous
-if theres a bathroom that you can get into without being noticed thats the way to go(there you can take off the censors or whatever you need to do)
-and last but not least DONT STEAL FROM SMALL STORES OR ILL STAB YOU WITH THE KNIFE I JUST STOLE.

[Dimentio]

Originally posted by counterblast+December 07, 2006 03:22 am--> (counterblast @ December 07, 2006 03:22 am)
[email protected] 21, 2006 10:14 pm

Maybe not in the short term but in the end the cost always comes back to bite them in the arse. Once the company starts to notice the losses, they aren't going to be happy with it are they? Hence the introduction of staff searches which infringe the rights of the workers, increased observation/reduction of freedom at the workplace, and even refusing to increase or potentially decreasing/passing the costs on to the workforce. Please explain how shoplifting does anything to make the bourgeoisie suffer, propogate change, or get our message out there in any form of positive way.

Hence why labor unions exist.

And workforce will not be reduced because of shoplifting. Store workforce is necessary as most businesses have minimal amount of employees anyway; so if anything it will affect private company funds, and the net gain of the shareholders of a company. If anything. shoplifting will provide more work; (ie: increased security positions). [/b]
I do not steal, but I would say that they throw away a lot of food, the retails. A lot more than is being stolen.

[liberationjunky]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 06, 2006 11:00 pm
The way I did it was i would fill up a carriage with food. Then i would casually walk around with it like i was doing a last minute check. Then i would leave through the enterance not barred by the register block. But i made absoulutley sure store managment wasn't near (once the carriage people saw me but since they weren't managers they didn't give a shit) . After that it was a simple matter of wheeling the cart on over into the next parking lot and taking my things.
Impressive, i have stolen dozens and dozens of times but ive never even considered anything like that... Im going to try this technique with a slightly motified plan for the supermarket nearest to me. (tommorrow ill post what happens if anyone is wondering if this will really work)

Im gonna bring one of the supermarket's bags in my pocket with me while walking into the doors and than eneter the store and pick up a supermarket basket. At some point ill just gonna put the bag on the bottom of the basket. Then I'll go get some beers, and whatever else I feel like getting and put them ontop of the bag but NOT IN the bag. Then somewhere by the front of the store so I can look like I already got checked out (but not be seen while doing this) ill just going to slide the bag over my mechandice. Here ill just casually leave the store with upto several bags of items.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

lol don't forget to post otherwise we'll know the plan failed.

[liberationjunky]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18, 2006 08:05 pm
Im gonna bring one of the supermarket's bags in my pocket with me while walking into the doors and than eneter the store and pick up a supermarket basket. At some point ill just gonna put the bag on the bottom of the basket. Then I'll go get some beers, and whatever else I feel like getting and put them ontop of the bag but NOT IN the bag. Then somewhere by the front of the store so I can look like I already got checked out (but not be seen while doing this) ill just going to slide the bag over my mechandice. Here ill just casually leave the store with upto several bags of items.
It worked just as I hoped it would. I got a couple bic lighters and a 6-pack of beer. I would've got more but im a minor and I didnt want look too suspicious.

I plan to go to all the other supermarkets around before hitting that one again, how long do you think its neccessary to wait??

[piet11111]

Originally posted by liberationjunky+December 19, 2006 05:21 pm--> (liberationjunky @ December 19, 2006 05:21 pm)
[email protected] 18, 2006 08:05 pm
Im gonna bring one of the supermarket's bags in my pocket with me while walking into the doors and than eneter the store and pick up a supermarket basket. At some point ill just gonna put the bag on the bottom of the basket. Then I'll go get some beers, and whatever else I feel like getting and put them ontop of the bag but NOT IN the bag. Then somewhere by the front of the store so I can look like I already got checked out (but not be seen while doing this) ill just going to slide the bag over my mechandice. Here ill just casually leave the store with upto several bags of items.
It worked just as I hoped it would. I got a couple bic lighters and a 6-pack of beer. I would've got more but im a minor and I didnt want look too suspicious.

I plan to go to all the other supermarkets around before hitting that one again, how long do you think its neccessary to wait?? [/b]
i would say 3 days long enough for the poeple that work there to forget your face.
just dont steal from the same place on a regular basis as they see you more often they will remember your face longer.

you could also try and figure out when they change shifts so that you have a fresh batch of poeple that dont know your face.

[fashbash]

go to TESCO. Buy a cheap item weighing the same as another more expensive item. This requires research. Cut the barcode off the cheaper item and place it over the barcode on the more expensive item. Pass this through the self service, voila- expensive stuff for cheap.

[analfilth]

"Left-handing" works pretty brilliantly too. This is where you find something you want/need and then find something else pretty cheap (for example: packet of gum) and buy the cheaper item whilst take the other item out with you. It works well if you have the feeling someones cottoned on to your plans :)

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

Y'know i don't know why revolutionaries would be interested in shop lifting..okay it might give you a rush... but having worked in a off license late at night i can tell you shop lifting makes all the workers at that store feel like their work place is a really horrible place to work.

If people know they can easily get away with stealing stuff, it creates an atmosphere that 's if its okay to steal from a company ( which i don't actually care about) then it might be okay to abuse and on occasion physically assault the companies workers (which i massively oppose).

[apathy maybe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 03:08 pm
Y'know i don't know why revolutionaries would be interested in shop lifting..okay it might give you a rush... but having worked in a off license late at night i can tell you shop lifting makes all the workers at that store feel like their work place is a really horrible place to work.

If people know they can easily get away with stealing stuff, it creates an atmosphere that 's if its okay to steal from a company ( which i don't actually care about) then it might be okay to abuse and on occasion physically assault the companies workers (which i massively oppose).
Revolutionaries have to eat to you know. And otherwise live. Shoplifting enables those who might not otherwise be able to afford it, the opportunity to have various things.

Plus, why support big nasty companies.


I always oppose abusing workers, after all most of the time it is a shitty job, with a shitty wage. I encourage them to instead steal stuff themselves and/or turn a blind eye (when they can) to others stealing stuff.

Revolutionaries at least should not abuse workers (let alone assault them), 'cause they are potentially comrades. Besides, why be a idiot for no reason?


I say steal from those big stores! (But don't get caught!) :ph34r:

[Jude]

What I like to do is look all preppy in jeans and a button down shirt with the sleeves rolled up. Just walk in with your arms crossed, pick up a small item and cross your arms again, putting the item in your rolled up sleeve. Then either pretend to answer your phone, or buy something cheap, anything to show you have nothing in your hands.

[bcbm]

If people know they can easily get away with stealing stuff, it creates an atmosphere that 's if its okay to steal from a company ( which i don't actually care about) then it might be okay to abuse and on occasion physically assault the companies workers (which i massively oppose).

Um... no. Shoplifters are thieves, not attackers. Most would prefer to not interact with employees at all.

That said, if someone tried to stop me, I'd probably throw some punches.

[red_orchestra]

I remember years ago a case where a fellow - 24 years old was stealing loads of product from a target store in the US by setting up several big smoke bombs... he created a distraction and walked out the store with the product in hand. Everyone else was too buisey trying to douse the flames... which their were none. :) distractions helps sometimes. Estimated that he got away with $15,000 USD worth of stuff.

[Auto_anarchy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2006 04:55 pm
Here's the top tip: Don't do it.

It only makes life harder for a worker somewhere in the world, be it in that store, in a factory, or where the materials came from miles and miles away. If you care about the working class, then don't do it.
Never more truthfull words were spoken, not only the working classes suffer but the poorer classes as well.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by Auto_anarchy+January 30, 2007 02:44 am--> (Auto_anarchy @ January 30, 2007 02:44 am)
[email protected] 20, 2006 04:55 pm
Here's the top tip: Don't do it.

It only makes life harder for a worker somewhere in the world, be it in that store, in a factory, or where the materials came from miles and miles away. If you care about the working class, then don't do it.
Never more truthfull words were spoken, not only the working classes suffer but the poorer classes as well. [/b]
How? Poor and working people steal all the fucking time.

[chimx]

anybody got any?

I have a technique that works every time: 1) get job. 2) receive pay check. 3) purchase desired item.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2007 03:45 am

anybody got any?

I have a technique that works every time: 1) get job. 2) receive pay check. 3) purchase desired item.
Fuck that.

[Auto_anarchy]

Originally posted by black coffee black [email protected] 30, 2007 09:28 am

How? Poor and working people steal all the fucking time. [/quote]
The cost of goods increases to cover theft, thereby affecting ALL those that cant afford the extra cost of liveing

[Auto_anarchy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2007 09:45 am

anybody got any?

I have a technique that works every time: 1) get job. 2) receive pay check. 3) purchase desired item.
LOL :D , true though.....

[Black Dagger]

How? Poor and working people steal all the fucking time.
The cost of goods increases to cover theft, thereby affecting ALL those that cant afford the extra cost of liveing [/QUOTE]
Actually most companies account for losses due to damage or theft when they calculate costs etc.

You're just regurgitating anti-theft misinformation, essentially doing the job of a rent-a-cop - way to function as a tool of social control!

[Auto_anarchy]

Originally posted by black [email protected] 30, 2007 01:44 pm

Actually most companies account for losses due to damage or theft when they calculate costs etc.

You're just regurgigating anti-theft misinformation, essentially doing the job of a rent-a-cop - way to function as a tool of social control! [/quote]
They may account for losses, but it's the losses they dont account for that get accounted for next time....and so on and so on. As much as i dont like "rent-a-cops" as you put it, i have better things to do with my time than "petty" theft.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31, 2007 11:52 pm

They may account for losses, but it's the losses they dont account for that get accounted for next time....and so on and so on.
Not really.

[dannthraxxx]

great post.

books are the best things to steal. normally if you flip through a book, you can turn right to the page where the scanner card is, from there its easy, drop the scanner card in the floor, walk out.

[Question everything]

Shop lifting :unsure: ... I'm ashammed of you all :( ! petty theft cost jobs, and not those of the CEOs but the low-level people you are stealing infront of!!! they hate you( because their boss is complaining to them about thieves), and in turn you hate them (because they are trying to stop you from stealing) you are playing into the hands of imperialists...

[bcbm]

petty theft cost jobs, and not those of the CEOs but the low-level people you are stealing infront of

Nonsense.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by auto anarchy+--> (auto anarchy)they may account for losses, but it's the losses they dont account for that get accounted for next time....and so on and so on.
[/b]

No.

There isnt any 'but its this or that', this an end of story deal. Companies account for losses due to theft, damage and so forth.

And i believe that people should make use of a companies budget, if you're not shoplifting they're just saving a bit more of the funds they'd already set aside.


Originally posted by auto anarchy+--> (auto anarchy)
As much as i dont like "rent-a-cops" as you put it, i have better things to do with my time than "petty" theft.[/b]

Good for you, but that's irrelevant to this conversation.



Originally posted by question anything
Shop lifting unsure.gif ... I'm ashammed of you all sad.gif

You sound like a 'soccer mom'.


Originally posted by question anything
petty theft cost jobs, and not those of the CEOs but the low-level people you are stealing infront of!!!

No, really, it doesn't - see my previous post in this thread.


Originally posted by question everything

they hate you( because their boss is complaining to them about thieves)

I've been one of the 'they' you are talkin about, and i certainly didnt 'hate' shoplifters.


question [email protected]

and in turn you hate them (because they are trying to stop you from stealing)

No i dont, and no they arent. Ordinary workers arent the ones stopping shoplifters, most could care less, it's store security that nab shoplifters.


question anything

you are playing into the hands of imperialists...

I guess you wouldnt mind explaining this sentence?

How does shoplifting play into the hands of the imperialists?

It is an obligation to steal because lost profits from stolen items are already counted in their profit margin - in the pricing of products and pay to workers etc. So if you don't steal, free money to the corporations!

[dannthraxxx]

Originally posted by black [email protected] 02, 2007 05:57 am
"It is an obligation to steal because lost profits from stolen items are already counted in their profit margin - in the pricing of products and pay to workers etc. So if you don't steal, free money to the corporations!"
TRUTH!

[Question everything]

On second thought, never mind the whole post, I was kinda tired when I wrote it and I was not my best arguement...



You sound like a 'soccer mom'.

but here that was the point I was being sarcastic...

but I would like to make the point that your surposed to be supporting the life style of the poletarian not the of the lumpenpoletarian

and that re-enforces the sterotype, simply put by the Japanese (during WW2) of "Communist bandits" or of teenaged punks using communusm as an excuse...

[Black Dagger]

but I would like to make the point that your surposed to be supporting the life style of the poletarian not the of the lumpenpoletarian

'poles' steal as well, it's not like the only people who steal are unemployed :wacko:

P.S. there's no such as a proleterian 'lifestyle'.


Originally posted by question everything

and that re-enforces the sterotype, simply put by the Japanese (during WW2) of "Communist bandits" or of teenaged punks using communusm as an excuse...

Firstly, that stereotype doesnt actually exist.

Secondly, i like bandits and punks.

[Question everything]

Okay, I'm not going to do it but if you want to I'm not going to stop you

[Comrade Marcel]

The people who are against shoplifting is this post, probably have never worked in retail. If they do, they have been suckered by the bosses into thinking that way. I used to be like that too, I actually helped catch people and shit like that, because I wanted to move up and be a supervisor one day... But then they just fucked me over when I had down time in my life and showed up later a few times.

So yeah, steal. Fuck them.

But if you are trying to organize workers, it is better to work hard so you will gain the respect of the other employees as opposed to looking like a "punk".

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by Question everything+February 08, 2007 12:55 pm--> (Question everything @ February 08, 2007 12:55 pm) Okay, I'm not going to do it but if you want to I'm not going to stop you [/b]
Well obviously, its not like you could even if you wanted to :P


CM
But if you are trying to organize workers, it is better to work hard so you will gain the respect of the other employees as opposed to looking like a "punk"

Huh? There's nothing preventing a person from participating in workers organisations whilst also doin' petty theft and retaining the 'respect' (whatever that means in this contex) of other workers, it's not like every shoplifters has to put on a 'punk' uniform or confess their 'crimes' to the workers collective.

[Exovedate]

Whenever someone I know wants something from say Walmart (fuck I hate Walmart) I just tell them to describe exactly what it is to me, and then I go steal it for them. I love stealing from those corporate bastards.
Not exactly shoplifting, but another thing I like to do is you go to a movie theatre and wait until the movie you want to see is about 2 minutes in already. You then come in from outside (from the direction of the parking lot if the front of the theatre has windows). You then go to waltz past the ticket-ripper dude. If he stops you, you pull out your watch or some other item and give him some line like "I had to go get my watch from the car. I have a meeting at such-and-such a time". Then you just stroll into the movie of your choice. If you time it right you might only have missed the 10 min of previews.

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by [email protected] 01, 2007 06:27 pm
great post, i steal from wal-mart almost anytime i walk in the place.


books are what i enjoy stealing mostly, i think one of the first books i ever stole was abby hoffmans "steal this book." i think most "resourceful books" should be free anyway. i'll normally buy one cheap 5 dollar book and walk out with 4 or five in my pants/jacket. normally if you flip through the book, you can turn right to the page where the scanner card is, its easy drop it in the floor, walk out.


i live in the middle of about 3 or 4 different cities, so i can hit up many different stores. i've probably stolen enough books to open an infoshop.
I wouln't post any more details then that!

[Glitch]

I used to work in a grocery store and would always be on the lookout for shoplifters. Of course, for me it was just catching them that was the fun - never said anything, just let them take it.

The only time I made an issue out of it was when these mouthly little runts started talking shit to me and when this crack motherfucker tried to load up a hundred bucks worth of stuff in the middle of the isle.

I remember our security guard nabbing this nice old woman who was stealing batteries, Advil and some other expensive thing. She was buying the other thirty bucks worth of stuff and taking the expensive ones. That made me really upset. He called the cops on her and her son had to come down to the store to get her. She was in tears. Pensions these days don't pay shit, show a little respect.

Selling food is bogus.

[bretty]

Does anyone know a good way to take books from a place like indigo or chapters?

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 07:19 pm
Does anyone know a good way to take books from a place like indigo or chapters?
Pick them up and walk out?

[Glitch]

Pretty much. My girlfriend used to take books from there every week. Put them in her bag and left.

[RNK]

Shop lifting ... I'm ashammed of you all ! petty theft cost jobs, and not those of the CEOs but the low-level people you are stealing infront of!!!

Bull-fucking-shit. Shoplifting doesn't cost jobs. What costs jobs is when Mr-I'm-A-Fucking-Millionaire McGee CEO decides he'd like an 80% cut of all profits so he can make $500,000 an hour, compared to the people who actually run his fucking business, who make $5 an hour. When companies are charging $50 for something that cost them $0.50 to make, they deserve to have every-fucking-thing in their fucking store stolen.

[Glitch]

Right on. The shoplifting costs job line is only ever distributed to employees to keep them from stealing from the place they work. The only place I have heard that is in staff meetings or on bulletin boards in the break room.

Feel free to shoplift. My gripe is with people who fuck shit up in a store. Don't go and vandalize or mess displays up. Disruptive behaviour makes more work for the people at the bottom. Don't make busy work for the minimum wagers.

[keelan]

If theres a store near you like Kmart or target that has a garden center, you can have a friend wait on the other side while you toss things out over the top if it doesnt have a roof

An aquaintance of mine got a psp and a couple games

[Coggeh]

best thing to do my friend was telling me is shoplift before the items hit to store ... friday nites .. outside big stores they will have trucks left outside for employees to empty in the morning ... jus open them (most are unlocked) grab 1 or 2 things and be on your way ... simple

[OneBrickOneVoice]

My experience with shoplifting has been extremely pro-socialist. There is a cafeteria where we all eat lunch at around 12 everyday. Its very open, and most of us have little money. Most days we put our food and drinks in our bags and walk out. The other day, my friend was ordering a burger when the fry guy winked and said, "you're not gonna put that in your bag are ya?"

He did anyway and walked out. No one stopped him. My conclusion is that the workers in the cafeteria (who are paid around minimum wage) have little stake in the success or failure of the institution. They just don't give a shit. They are paid a set wage by a private hand which they work for.

In a socialist society, the workers will own the factories and workplaces while the farmers own the farms and the people own the community.

The revolution has taken place and we are now in that same cafeteria but now, the workers own the cafeteria. They aren't producing for the profit of a private hand but rather for the public and because they control the cafeteria and have a stake in it.

When my friend or I take a candy bar and are seen, the worker will stop us because he is now in control of the cafeteria, it's in collective hands not private, and stealing will affect him as well as the guy next to my friend stealing the candy bar. Why? Because there is now one less candy bar for the community, and when the guy next to him goes to get his candy bar, it'll have been stolen.

In conclusion, since the means of production are collectivly owned, the people have more of a stake in reporting or ignoring theft. Under the capitalist-imperialist system private ownership makes it so that no one gives a shit whether you steal because only the private owner loses. On the otherhand, the public popular ownership of socialism affects everyone and thus is not only a more just and democratic system, but also, a more efficient one.

[Ihavenoidea]

Once I stole 300 dollars worth of shit (food, clothes, etc..) from Wal*Mart and went downtown and gave it to the homeless Natives there.


Good guidline on the first page. I was gonna write some shit but that pretty much summed it up.

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

BCBM


Um... no. Shoplifters are thieves, not attackers. Most would prefer to not interact with employees at all.

That said, if someone tried to stop me, I'd probably throw some punches.


So if a manager tells a worker to stop you from stealing stuff, you will assault a worker?

And, shop lifters do assault people, i have witnessed it.

QE



Shop lifting unsure.gif ... I'm ashamed of you all sad.gif ! petty theft cost jobs, and not those of the CEO s but the low-level people you are stealing in front of!!! they hate you( because their boss is complaining to them about thieves), and in turn you hate them (because they are trying to stop you from stealing) you are playing into the hands of imperialists...


This is pretty much true. Managers will often look on the security camera footage to see what got stolen. And if they can see that you have witnessed it and not done anything, then they DO go ape shit.

The environment for the workers is deteriorating every time you put them in a uncomfortable situation.

And what's worse, is all this fucking LIBERAL apologist bullshit for shoplifting. OH TEH BIG BAD CORPORATION MAKES NUFF MONEY!!!

That isn't the issue here, if you weren't fucking liberals you would know that.

IF you are pissed off with the corporations (as you should be) get the workers to strike, organise at your workplace, tell your union, then you might be able to buy the shit you normally steal.

seriously, fucking liberals argh!!

[RASHskins]

if your hungry go to supermarkets and just chow on the food in the store. They can only kcik you out of the store you don't haev to pay for it. A good way to do this is to take the food (hidden in clothes) to the bathroom and eat it there. Also dumpster diving is a good way to get free food. Working at a grocery store is the easiest way to hardly ever buy food though. The outdated shit they are gonna through away just take that shit they don't miss it. Value villiage is easy to rip off cause they have no sensors or anything. I ususally will go there grab some clothes and hand them out on the street.

[détrop]

Here is a tip for how to steal gasoline successfully.

Find a vehicle that is the same make and model as the one you drive. Steal the license plate off of it. Put the plate on your vehicle. Find a gas station where young and inexperienced cashiers work, and one where there are cameras mounted above the filling station. This is important. You want to be seen by the cameras so the license plate numbers are recorded. A station that has cameras is less likely to call the police at the moment you steal the gas, since they believe they have recorded imagery of the license plate which they assume is yours. The police department will send a letter (to the owner of the plate) demanding payment and a fine or the license will be revoked. A station that doesn't have cameras will more than likely immediately notify the cops on patrol in that area who could possibly see you driving by and pull you over. You don't want that, because then you would have to kill the cop. You're not a cop killer are you? What if the cop has a family? Think about his children.

Wait until the station is very busy with several cars. Park your vehicle at an angle that insures that the plate is seen by the cameras. Fill her up. Get the hell outta there. I would suggest parking somewhere and chilling for a few minutes before getting back on the road. The best time is at dusk, obviously.

[welshred]

I like that idea.

[détrop]

Actually I should revise it a bit.

My biggest concern is the possibility of causing a fellow working class citizen alot of trouble. If you steal his plate, he gets fucked.

So, let's change this around.

I think you could take a plate that wasn't from a vehicle of the same make and model, and still be successful. The gas station clerk and cameras don't know the difference at the time of the theft.

I would suggest finding a high class vehicle, one which you are certain is owned by a capitalist, and taking its plate.

Also, if you do this several times...you will want to get new plates at intervals. I say this because the more capitalists you put through the trouble of having to resolve the issue with the police once they are contacted, the better. Anything to cost him time and give him a headache.

And don't touch the vehicle you get the plate off of. You don't want to leave finger-prints.

And when you are driving around with your plate on your vehicle, make sure the stolen plate is well hidden. If you happen to get pulled for whatever reason, and they find the plate, you will be in serious trouble. In fact, I advise not carrying the stolen plate with you at all, and only putting it on when you steal fuel.

[détrop]

To speed up the plate switch once you haul ass from the gas-station, just put the stolen plate over the real plate, and secure it with only one nut. You don't have to take the real plate off, or secure the stolen plate with two nuts.

Switching the plates should be a matter of seconds, not minutes. Fumbling around when you are nervous can cause you to drop the nuts and screws, which will cost you more time.

The best place to park to get off the road momentarily is an apartment complex. So find a gas-station that is near a complex, and plan your route. When you park in the complex, back into the spot, don't pull in front first.

[détrop]

Eat and Run:

Everybody knows this one, and its fairly easy. However I recently found out that certain resturants will deduct the cost of the food you don't pay for from the waiter/waitress's paycheck, that is serving you. Again, the working class gets fucked.

I would advise maybe asking a waiter/waitress long before hand, in a casual conversation, if that specific resturant does that. You have to be slick when you ask...don't ask in such a way that makes them suspicious that you are going to eat and run.

And don't park anywhere near the resturant you go to. Park out of sight. Its good to pick a resturant that has the bathrooms near the exit, so you can appear as if you are going to the bathroom when you split. If you cannot find one situated like that....when you plan to split...just walk out casually with your cell-phone to your ear, as if you are talking. Also, plug your other ear with your finger while walking out. This makes any suspecting staff think you are stepping outside because the place is too loud to hear on the phone.

[détrop]

Once I stole 300 dollars worth of shit (food, clothes, etc..) from Wal*Mart and went downtown and gave it to the homeless Natives there.

Beautiful.

[Sir_No_Sir]

I know a kid who stole 5 sub sandwiches from our cafeteria, just slid em all into his pockets.

[RASHskins]

Here's one to get free food at a place. look for garbage cans around and look through them for reciepts. Then just take that in and say you food wasnt cooked or something. Easy free meal right there.

[détrop]

Clever, Rash, but you risk the chance of them noticing the date on the reciept.

Sometimes you can get a free burger at a drive-thru resturant if you do it right. Find one that is extremely busy. Walk inside, or drive thru, and tell the clerk your girlfriend or boyfriend came through ten minutes ago and ordered [insert whatever], and that you didn't get the [insert whatever]. Act impatient...like you are pissed because you had to come back. Normally, if the place is busy, and the clerk is young, he/she won't try to find the reciept records in the register and will just give you the [insert whatever].

[welshred]

Also if you go into a burger joint if you have ordered a meal, go out then come back in ten minutes later and say that you ordered, say a cheeseburger but it wasnt in the bag. Most staff will give you it. It works even better if the place is really busy.

[Rizzo]

I'm not sure if this is a liability to discuss, so please exuse the "may or may not haves" that's not to say that I stole anything ya know.

I may or may not have stolen several traffic cones, myself, oh yeah, the totally hypothetical adrenalin rush.

I may or may not have found that by cutting thumb holes in a hoodie, you could simply slip your long sleeve over a desired object, and then just slip your thumb through the hole to keep it from falling out. But don't be a dumbass and try to take something big that will make a bulge in your jacket.

[RASHskins]

I stole a really nice sledgehammer from a city construction site. It was risky they were just working a little ways away. It's a good hammer never know when ill need to bash some fash heads in.

[Rizzo]

Originally posted by leftist [email protected] 22, 2006 05:25 am
anyway,i think it's morally wrong to steal.especially on other ppl.

but if you do tt on big corkpoorrates..then,umm..consider yourself a robin hood :D
Why do you try to justify it, you can't, I am a compulsive shoplifter, and I never in any way try to justify it. I know it's wrong, I am a robin hood a sorts I guess, I steal from the rich, but I keep for myself though. But seriously these are not good people, they either sell products that were produce for slave wages, or they skrew over their employee's, so I see no harm in it, as long as I don't get caught.

[Rizzo]

On the subject of stealing gas, why not be bold and bring gas containers, and fill them up to, it will eventually become blatantly clear that you never intended to pay for gas, and some other guy (a capitolist) is gonna pick up the tag anyways, why not? :D

[Phalanx]

Just beware, if you're caught, you could pay over $1,000. Learn from my mistakes, and do it right :)

[Question everything]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 05:37 pm
BCBM


Um... no. Shoplifters are thieves, not attackers. Most would prefer to not interact with employees at all.

That said, if someone tried to stop me, I'd probably throw some punches.


So if a manager tells a worker to stop you from stealing stuff, you will assault a worker?

And, shop lifters do assault people, i have witnessed it.

QE



Shop lifting unsure.gif ... I'm ashamed of you all sad.gif ! petty theft cost jobs, and not those of the CEO s but the low-level people you are stealing in front of!!! they hate you( because their boss is complaining to them about thieves), and in turn you hate them (because they are trying to stop you from stealing) you are playing into the hands of imperialists...


This is pretty much true. Managers will often look on the security camera footage to see what got stolen. And if they can see that you have witnessed it and not done anything, then they DO go ape shit.

The environment for the workers is deteriorating every time you put them in a uncomfortable situation.

And what's worse, is all this fucking LIBERAL apologist bullshit for shoplifting. OH TEH BIG BAD CORPORATION MAKES NUFF MONEY!!!

That isn't the issue here, if you weren't fucking liberals you would know that.

IF you are pissed off with the corporations (as you should be) get the workers to strike, organise at your workplace, tell your union, then you might be able to buy the shit you normally steal.

seriously, fucking liberals argh!!
sorry for breathing. I'm sorry I sound to much like a preppy liberal, I have nothing against shoplifting, I know people who do it, I just don't do it myself (even though it's so easy, Buck or Two has no security, I could put a chocolate bar in my pocket and walk off, but I just would rather not like some teenager with a shitload of teen angst trying to look like a rebel.

[Ihavenoidea]

CLOTHING SHOPLIFTING TECHNIQUES:

I know that at many places here (big corporate stores that have on clothes, like zellers or winners) it is pretty easy to steal clothes. Places like WalMart and Zellers have this security system that in front of a series of changing boothes there are 2 store associates sitting there and whenever you want to go and try something on, they count how many articals of clothes you have and then give you a number to match how much you have. Well to take clothes you can:

Get whatever you want off the rack including some other things you dont want. if you like a t-shirt, take that tshirt and slip an identical one underneath, not reveling it so that it only looks like there is one there (really there is one on top and one underneath). Repeat this with whatever you want that you can do it with (pants, socks, whatever)..
Go to the changing room and she/he will count your clothes, obviously not knowing there is an extra pair underneath.

Go into the booth, take off the ones underneath and slip them away in a bag (make sure you have lots of bought outside shit in there so they cant check, if you dont do this then it is better to go at rush hour or something when they cant keep track) or put them under your clothes (either wear them under your coat or something or slip them in your pants or under your shirt, make sure you are wearing a light coat of some sort.. not heavy because then they will be suspicious but light).

Then finally come out of the changing room and pretend you tried them on, tell her/him that they didnt look good or didnt fit so that they can put the clothes away.

get a chocolate bar or ask a door-host/greeter if they have something that they obviously dont have and then when they dont have them, leave.

You just got some clothes. lol. NEVER TRY AND REMOVE SECURITY LOCKS... EVER. THEY HAVE TRACERS ON THEM AND YOU WILL GET SCREWED.


This works all the time. Just make sure everything is hidden well and you exit perfectly.

It is always best to either go when there is no one in the store or a shitload of people in the store.


_______

[Political_Chucky]

^^^Well what if they have the security button things on the clothes?

[Ihavenoidea]

that is why I said do not steal the ones with tracers.

Many places have tracers but lots dont, bring a pair of scissers to to cut the tag off nicely. Just a small pair. I have a pair that is the size of my thumb, you can get them in sewing kits. Like this:

http://www.quaker-tapestry.co.uk/trolleyed...oducts/9805.jpg (http://www.quaker-tapestry.co.uk/trolleyed/images/products/9805.jpg)

These ones are a bit bigger but in 2$ sewing kits they are even smaller.

Never try and remove to security buttons or tracers. EVER. Unless you are cutting the whole damn sheet of material off, dont.. lol.

ANOTHER THING ABOUT STEALING CLOTHES:

http://crimeprevention.rutgers.edu/crime/s.../techniques.htm (http://crimeprevention.rutgers.edu/crime/shoplifting/techniques.htm)

This site outilines many things that stores use to prevent shoplifting. Defy every one.

Wear light clothes, not baggy ones. Wear shorts or skirts and not baggy ones. wear tight fitting tshirts or jeans. Give them not one reason to be suspicious or act on their thoughts. ok?

If they come up to you and ask you "can I help you?" Ask for something compleatly irrelivent "do you have rubber loafers here?" something rediculous that they wont know or have.


"A common technique, especially if your fitting rooms aren't well monitored, is for the thief to steal garments by putting them on under her own clothes and wearing them out of the store. Others will just put the clothing on and walk out. It's tricky to catch one of these people, because if they haven't concealed the item, they technically haven't stolen it until they exit the store without paying."

lol.. well well well they know.. lol... But honestly places like Walmart only have a primitive form of monitering the rooms (ie: those people counting the garments).

And if you do what I said and just hide a pair under another one and take it out when you get in the room, it will be hard for them to tell.

ALSO: If a place doesnt have people, wear a coat and zip it up almost to the top, only exposing your collar (again, a light one), and take a shirt that you dont like, wearing it to the store, and then take the one you do like and put it on, throwing out the old one after you get out and again, zip your coat up to the collar or expose some of the shirt so they wont be suspicious. Even ask someone if they can help you find the changing rooms. To further your innocent shopper image.