Should we impeach Bush?

[JokingClown]

Gallup refuses to poll the American public with this question.

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?C...1#Post293938418 (http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_press&Number=293935710&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&part=1#Post293938418)

[JokingClown]

and considering his approval rating is at 40%...
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/northam..._in_Gallup_Poll (http://news.monstersandcritics.com/northamerica/article_1044126.php/Bush_at_40_percent_approval_in_Gallup_Poll)


Its not hard to imagine why.

[blue_shift_revolution]

It wouldn't happen even if we wanted it to. The republicans are untouchable right now, and the Democrats are too ineffective to pull it off. Besides, impeaching would be acknowledging and validifying the system. The point is to destroy it, not embrace it.

I'd definitely sign on for the whole destroying think :)

[h&s]

Should we impeach Bush?
No.
Whats the point?
If it happens what will you gain?
He will just be replaced by another capitalist imperialist, and you will have wasted all of that time effort and funds.

[OleMarxco]

Definately my opinion.
Why not just arm every citizen with each their handgun and smash the state? Why the FUCK not? Paint the white-house red, eat your damn lavaroignè, and invent your own kind of "impeachin'!" for aslong as they rule, they will use all mean's to keep us at "bay". Anyone preferrin' a rope, should ex-amine the merchan-dize before buyin' it to hang'em with...'cuz it might be slack ;)

[Hegemonicretribution]

I think we need to look at things positively, this isn't the worst situation. If he was impeached, people would be happier, and and a blow will have been struck (even if another comes along, they will have to take care). The problem is that people could easily become complacent and claim that everything is grand.

If Bush isn't impeached then people will suffer, however they will become increasingly angry and hope for change. The dwnside is with the patriotism act and others, they will likely also become disheartened.

Whether it is stirring up action in angry downtrodden masses, or trying to get one over of the public bad guy, the point is to do something.

[Iepilei]

You have to use the system to damage it to the point any action is beneficial.

:ph34r:

[JokingClown]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 10:03 AM
Definately my opinion.
Why not just arm every citizen with each their handgun and smash the state? Why the FUCK not? Paint the white-house red, eat your damn lavaroignè, and invent your own kind of "impeachin'!" for aslong as they rule, they will use all mean's to keep us at "bay". Anyone preferrin' a rope, should ex-amine the merchan-dize before buyin' it to hang'em with...'cuz it might be slack ;)

Definately my opinion.
Why not just arm every citizen with each their handgun and smash the state? Why the FUCK not? Paint the white-house red, eat your damn lavaroignè, and invent your own kind of "impeachin'!" for aslong as they rule, they will use all mean's to keep us at "bay". Anyone preferrin' a rope, should ex-amine the merchan-dize before buyin' it to hang'em with...'cuz it might be slack ;)

Well, thats a nice fantasy and all... you ask why not? mainly because you would have to convince all those people to follow you. So the real solution i think is just educating the masses. how to go about that best is well.. debateable.

[Bannockburn]

Well of course I think we should impeach Bush. We should all put him on War Crime, crimes against Humanity, and execute him like the war criminal that he is. However, like the above poster said: It will only bring on another Capitalist imperialist. Nevertheless, I think it would have a lot of symbolic implications for foreign relations. That would be the only real implication...symbolism. Nothing would really change despite it.

[rapidfiringneurons]

You have to use the system to damage it to the point any action is beneficial.

The larger question: is Bush the entire problem? Certainly not, it is the system itself that is to blame for our current state of affairs. I'm not denying the fact that bush is a war criminal and should not even be allowed to utter the word "innocent", but really, an impeachment would do nothing to harm the system.

What is really needed is downright defiance of the system, or a takeover by force. Both are tedious propositions, however. The latter would be extremely difficult as there would be huge numbers of people needed to pull it off, and it is hard to convince someone who is not a die-hard communist or socialist to resort to a violent tactic. The former seems more feasible, as defiance can often wrap itself in the arms of peaceful protest, something in which greater numbers would be interested in taking part.

One thing is certain: the system itself is running strong, as much as I wish it weren't true. And because of that fact, it will take more than a relatively small group of communists and socialists to change it. With that in mind, I must offer that such a revolution is very unlikely to happen first within the United States, as much as I would love to see it and take part in it. Nothing should be jumped into blindly, and a true warrior knows better than to enter a fight in which he knows that there is no chance of winning. No, comrades, I think it will take a revolution outside of the U.S. first to raise some eyebrows and, consequently, some numbers of supporters.

40% approval ratings? Yes, but that doesn't mean 60% communist and socialist support by any means. There is still a long way to go...