just came back

[marcelina44]

Hola everyone,

first off i would like to apologize for not participating more.

i came back a few weeks ago from venezuela, i was there for a month.

i was really impressed with the country, and if anyone wants to ask me anything about the political situation i will try my best to answer as well as i can.

con amor siempre..

[Le People]

How's Freedom of Speech down there? I get all right wing press in my area. Oh, and how popular is Hugo? I here he's red hot. Did you see any of the citizen militias and factory councils the BBC were talking about?

[bolshevik butcher]

Were you there for the socialist youth festival thing? I know soem comerades who went to that.

[marcelina44]

Well, i was visiting family, and i got to see the youth conference on TV but i couldnt go, i was on an island near the country. He is red hot, his revolution all starts from the barrio out.

Free speech..i do have mixed feelings on. part of me wants to say how there is all this free speech how its wonderful, but in reality..free spreech is so limited, unless you are praising the president. all grafiti for the pres for other leaders such as fidel, in memory of simon or che is ok. but if your part of the opposition ( and some groups do have great ideas and other groups are total garbage) your free speech, or grafiti will be erased. you cannot speak out against him on tv or radio without heavy punishment or hold demonstrations.

but for the most part, the country is ok with him. he has fanatics and he also has the pure opposite.

[metalero]

free spreech is so limited, unless you are praising the president. all grafiti for the pres for other leaders such as fidel, in memory of simon or che is ok. but if your part of the opposition ( and some groups do have great ideas and other groups are total garbage) your free speech, or grafiti will be erased.

SO LIMITED? :lol: Opposition groups (that goes from moderated neo-liberals to extreme right generals) control the big news channels (VENEVISON, GLOBOVISON, RCTV, ETC) from which they attack openly the president, calling him "a castro agent", "monkey" and trying to portrait the bolivarian government as tiranny whose only mistake has been trying to redistribute the wealthness and guarantee universal access to health and proper education, as stated in the Constitution. I visited Caracas in April this year, and if u refer to graffities, there are many oposition grafities in the streets (mostly in the streets where the oposition groups gather)...in every corner u can find a copy of EL NACIONAL or EL UNIVERSAL newspaper, which are openly opposed to any initiative led by the government. These powerful media group took most of the part in the failed coup against chavez in 2002, and in the failed bosses lock-out of the oil industry in december same year. To counter all this, all chavez has done is to enforce the state channel, and to pass a shy law (social responsability law of radio and tv) that ban violence images in daytime, and superficial stuff like that. by they way, did u get to know health mission in poor areas know as BARRIOADENTRO? Or get first hand info about peasants cooperatives that run the land expropriated by the government? or working class organization as reflected in the new workers confederation UNT, and the workers takeover of recently nationalized factories as VENRPAL? I advice u get informed about this if u want to give objective answers about the bolivarian revolution

[marcelina44]

i understand that, i also am still learning,

its just i am speaking from my experience down there. what i saw, what i heard, what i felt.

i do support chavez and his revolution, but its not perfect.


i only am telling you and others what i myself witnessed. i was with a family who was important in the government, they were also aware at what i was saying.

the tv i saw, showed absolutely no opposition to the government.

[bolshevik butcher]

hmmm well my comerade so oppisiition on tv. Maybe it was jsut where you were or teh tv station you were watching?

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 02:49 AM

free spreech is so limited, unless you are praising the president. all grafiti for the pres for other leaders such as fidel, in memory of simon or che is ok. but if your part of the opposition ( and some groups do have great ideas and other groups are total garbage) your free speech, or grafiti will be erased.

SO LIMITED? :lol: Opposition groups (that goes from moderated neo-liberals to extreme right generals) control the big news channels (VENEVISON, GLOBOVISON, RCTV, ETC) from which they attack openly the president, calling him "a castro agent", "monkey" and trying to portrait the bolivarian government as tiranny whose only mistake has been trying to redistribute the wealthness and guarantee universal access to health and proper education, as stated in the Constitution. I visited Caracas in April this year, and if u refer to graffities, there are many oposition grafities in the streets (mostly in the streets where the oposition groups gather)...in every corner u can find a copy of EL NACIONAL or EL UNIVERSAL newspaper, which are openly opposed to any initiative led by the government. These powerful media group took most of the part in the failed coup against chavez in 2002, and in the failed bosses lock-out of the oil industry in december same year. To counter all this, all chavez has done is to enforce the state channel, and to pass a shy law (social responsability law of radio and tv) that ban violence images in daytime, and superficial stuff like that. by they way, did u get to know health mission in poor areas know as BARRIOADENTRO? Or get first hand info about peasants cooperatives that run the land expropriated by the government? or working class organization as reflected in the new workers confederation UNT, and the workers takeover of recently nationalized factories as VENRPAL? I advice u get informed about this if u want to give objective answers about the bolivarian revolution
Exactly.. I was wondering what s/he was talking about..

The majority of press and TV statiosn are openly hostile to Chavez.

[marcelina44]

thank you clenched fist..of course as i told everyone im just talking about what i experienced.

[novemba]

well how were the people?

generally happy? or was there still a lot of poverty, homelessness, etc

[marcelina44]

the people were happy. some homeless, many poor, some well off.

the overall attititude is being content and smiling

(AT LEAST where i was, like i said...im not speaking for everyone)

but yes, i loved it <3

the people were also very very nice

[Entrails Konfetti]

My aunt who is a Marxist and has a crush on Che, said " Chavez doesn&#39;t really have a plan and isn&#39;t creating jobs." Although she praised his nationalization of Citgo.

But, now I read that the Bolivarians are expropriating factories, setting up workers control and coincidentally creating more jobs.

What is your knowledge of the expropriating in the Venezuelan media and the reactions of the people towards these policies?

[guerillablack]

A crush on a dead man?

[bolshevik butcher]

Well I wnet on the che forum once and he&#39;s just about a god there.

[Entrails Konfetti]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 07:32 PM
A crush on a dead man?
Wrong usage. Admired him and had a crush on him when the man was living.