SOAD

[workersunity]

anybody anxious for System's new cd coming out sometime in september or november?, anybody got any details about it, they where gonna release a two cd thing at once, but gave the listeners time to take in the songs, check this cd Hypnotize out when it comes out

[Hate Is Art]

SOAD are shit.

[Che1990]

I live in the UK so it's already out here. Seriously, that album will blow you away. It is quite possibly the best SOAD album ever, certainly the best since Toxicity. When you get it, one song you need to check out is BYOB. It is f***ing amazing! Long live the amazing musicians who call themselves System Of A Down!

[Gunman]

Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 2 2005, 11:02 AM
SOAD are shit.
Correction: SOAD are the shit :P

[Anarcho-Communist]

System Of A Down's older music was light years better than that of Mezmerize

[bolshevik butcher]

No, mezmorise was better i think.. Toxcicity's great as well though.

[Phalanx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 07:45 AM
I live in the UK so it's already out here. Seriously, that album will blow you away. It is quite possibly the best SOAD album ever, certainly the best since Toxicity. When you get it, one song you need to check out is BYOB. It is f***ing amazing! Long live the amazing musicians who call themselves System Of A Down!
Are you talking about Mezmerize? That album already came out in the US, too. I think he was talking about Hypnotize, and I'm not sure if that's been released anywhere in the world yet.

[More Fire for the People]

Yeah, I can't wait for them to come out.
I wasn't very impressed by Mezmirized, and I hate the song "BYOB".
But I'll always love the Toxicity album.

[bolshevik butcher]

Hypnotize isnt out anywhere. Deffinatley not uk anyway.

[Clarksist]

Bleh.

The message of BYOB is fine... but the song is shit. Absolute nu-metal poppy stuff.

Mesmerize makes me feel that Ashley Simpson music accidently got distortion on it, and they gave it to SOAD.

Bad... bad... bad...

What you should be excited about is the new Opeth CD that just came out, and the new In Flames stuff coming out.

[More Fire for the People]

System of a Down is not nü metal as they do not rap nor do they feature turntables.

[Gunman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 09:40 PM
Bleh.

The message of BYOB is fine... but the song is shit. Absolute nu-metal poppy stuff.

Mesmerize makes me feel that Ashley Simpson music accidently got distortion on it, and they gave it to SOAD.

Bad... bad... bad...

What you should be excited about is the new Opeth CD that just came out, and the new In Flames stuff coming out.
It isn´t Nu-metal, and they mixed the "poppy" factor just for the sake of diversity. And I´m pretty sure that B.Y.O.B. is the only song where that factor is present.

[Clarksist]

System of a Down is not nü metal as they do not rap nor do they feature turntables.



It isn´t Nu-metal, and they mixed the "poppy" factor just for the sake of diversity.


I love apolagetics.

But you guys are wrong. :lol:

They play catchy music for the sake of being catchy.

It has no meat to the songs, just there to make a mosh pit, but nothing any further.

Also, it is just the alternative rock song with metal equipment... and the obvious influence from N'Sync.

How "metal". \m/ :rolleyes:

[rioters bloc]

soad's first album was amazing...toxicity was a disappointment, as id waited abt 4 years for them to release a new one and the standard [i felt] was prettyy shite

steal this album i didn't even listen to, i don't know anyone who did

and i havent heard mesmerise yet either, but i hear it's not amazing

really let down by them to be honest

[workersunity]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 01:45 AM
I live in the UK so it's already out here. Seriously, that album will blow you away. It is quite possibly the best SOAD album ever, certainly the best since Toxicity. When you get it, one song you need to check out is BYOB. It is f***ing amazing! Long live the amazing musicians who call themselves System Of A Down!
ya Mezmerize is already out, but im talking bout hypnotize

[rioters bloc]

soad at big day out this year

[Gunman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 11:54 PM

System of a Down is not nü metal as they do not rap nor do they feature turntables.



It isn´t Nu-metal, and they mixed the "poppy" factor just for the sake of diversity.


I love apolagetics.

But you guys are wrong. :lol:

They play catchy music for the sake of being catchy.

It has no meat to the songs, just there to make a mosh pit, but nothing any further.

Also, it is just the alternative rock song with metal equipment... and the obvious influence from N'Sync.

How "metal". \m/ :rolleyes:
I hope you´re being Sarcastic... :huh:

[Che1990]

Originally posted by Chinghis Khan+Sep 3 2005, 08:50 PM--> (Chinghis Khan @ Sep 3 2005, 08:50 PM)
[email protected] 3 2005, 07:45 AM
I live in the UK so it's already out here. Seriously, that album will blow you away. It is quite possibly the best SOAD album ever, certainly the best since Toxicity. When you get it, one song you need to check out is BYOB. It is f***ing amazing! Long live the amazing musicians who call themselves System Of A Down!
Are you talking about Mezmerize? That album already came out in the US, too. I think he was talking about Hypnotize, and I'm not sure if that's been released anywhere in the world yet. [/b]
My bad! :P

[Arsiema]

SOAD do rock.

[workersunity]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 05:54 PM

System of a Down is not nü metal as they do not rap nor do they feature turntables.



It isn´t Nu-metal, and they mixed the "poppy" factor just for the sake of diversity.


I love apolagetics.

But you guys are wrong. :lol:

They play catchy music for the sake of being catchy.

It has no meat to the songs, just there to make a mosh pit, but nothing any further.

Also, it is just the alternative rock song with metal equipment... and the obvious influence from N'Sync.

How "metal". \m/ :rolleyes:
you could say that about any band that people mosh to songs from, All heavy metal, all the shadows fall shit, ozzy, anyone, I really doubt that you know what they intended for the song

[Clarksist]

I hope you´re being Sarcastic...


I was, SOAD aren't metal.


you could say that about any band that people mosh to songs from, All heavy metal, all the shadows fall shit, ozzy, anyone, I really doubt that you know what they intended for the song


No, what I am saying is their songs are weak. It has a ctachy riff, the breakdown... holy shit its just cut & paste.

I enjoy my music to have really developed layers and soloing, along with good lyrics and solid blast beats.

This kinda stuff is just so generic.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 10:40 PM
Bleh.

The message of BYOB is fine... but the song is shit. Absolute nu-metal poppy stuff.

Mesmerize makes me feel that Ashley Simpson music accidently got distortion on it, and they gave it to SOAD.

Bad... bad... bad...

What you should be excited about is the new Opeth CD that just came out, and the new In Flames stuff coming out.
LOL, you critisise SOAD for being crappy pop, which is daft considering that SOAD follow no pop formulae, I have ever heard of before. They are popular yeah, but they are hardly an imitation of already popular bands.


I don't like Opeth and In Flames so much... I had a fair bit of their stuff at one point, over varous formatting spree's I have just failed to restore and save a lot of it, didn't see the point, as I don't listen to them enough.

[Clarksist]

LOL, you critisise SOAD for being crappy pop, which is daft considering that SOAD follow no pop formulae, I have ever heard of before. They are popular yeah, but they are hardly an imitation of already popular bands.


All the SOAD songs I have heard and can at least caguely remember are:

BYOB
Chop Suey
Aerials
Violent Pornagraphy
And whatever song goes "My cock is much bigger than yours-"

In every single one of those songs there is no real substantial music, and is instead just catchy to be catchy.

In In Flames' case they make beautiful melodic and poppy sounding metal, but they do it with substance. SOAD just has... bleh.

[Gunman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 09:30 PM

I hope you´re being Sarcastic...


I was, SOAD aren't metal.

I agree when you say SOAD aren´t metal, because they simply have several influences to be considered such (and yes, "pop" is also an influence, but you only notice it in really few songs).


No, what I am saying is their songs are weak. It has a ctachy riff, the breakdown... holy shit its just cut & paste.

I enjoy my music to have really developed layers and soloing, along with good lyrics and solid blast beats.

This kinda stuff is just so generic.

I somewhat agree with you, they indeed don´t have very developed layers and it´s almost always the same breakdown. But I beg to differ that they have nice lyrics, the soloing is well done (tough there isn´t much of it), and they have "solid blast beats" (wtf is this?) in musics like Peephole, War, P.L.U.C.K., Mind, Toxicity, etc...
SOAD is everything but "generic". Always when I hear their 1st CD, it never felt "boring" or "generic" (this also applies for "Mezmerize"). If there was a CD that could be considered "boring" and "generic", that had to be "Steal this Album", tough I´ve enjoyed it mildly.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 12:37 AM

LOL, you critisise SOAD for being crappy pop, which is daft considering that SOAD follow no pop formulae, I have ever heard of before. They are popular yeah, but they are hardly an imitation of already popular bands.


All the SOAD songs I have heard and can at least caguely remember are:

BYOB
Chop Suey
Aerials
Violent Pornagraphy
And whatever song goes "My cock is much bigger than yours-"

In every single one of those songs there is no real substantial music, and is instead just catchy to be catchy.

In In Flames' case they make beautiful melodic and poppy sounding metal, but they do it with substance. SOAD just has... bleh.
So you base you entire opinion of a band on 5 songs?

I would also like you to describe how you define 'real substancial music'.

In Flames music is not beautiful, its boring and as you stated poppy, they do little for me. I prefer bands like Tool, Symphony X, Children of Bodom, Kyuss and Killswitch engage, when I listen to heavier stuff.

[workersunity]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 03:30 PM

I hope you´re being Sarcastic...


I was, SOAD aren't metal.


you could say that about any band that people mosh to songs from, All heavy metal, all the shadows fall shit, ozzy, anyone, I really doubt that you know what they intended for the song


No, what I am saying is their songs are weak. It has a ctachy riff, the breakdown... holy shit its just cut & paste.

I enjoy my music to have really developed layers and soloing, along with good lyrics and solid blast beats.

This kinda stuff is just so generic.
since i take it you listen to that death metal or whatever the hell its called, how do you like good lyrics when all you hear is screaming, thats so useless just to scream, its makes the songs all shit

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by workersunity+Sep 9 2005, 05:50 PM--> (workersunity @ Sep 9 2005, 05:50 PM)
[email protected] 7 2005, 03:30 PM

I hope you´re being Sarcastic...


I was, SOAD aren't metal.


you could say that about any band that people mosh to songs from, All heavy metal, all the shadows fall shit, ozzy, anyone, I really doubt that you know what they intended for the song


No, what I am saying is their songs are weak. It has a ctachy riff, the breakdown... holy shit its just cut & paste.

I enjoy my music to have really developed layers and soloing, along with good lyrics and solid blast beats.

This kinda stuff is just so generic.
since i take it you listen to that death metal or whatever the hell its called, how do you like good lyrics when all you hear is screaming, thats so useless just to scream, its makes the songs all shit [/b]
I actually disagree, usually I listen to bands who sing, on the whole I prefer it. However, when some bands use screaming I think its very good, it fits the music so well. Bands like C of B, I can not imagine singing in on of their songs.

[dev/null]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 06:56 AM
they where gonna release a two cd thing at once, but gave the listeners time to take in the songs
Um, I think you meant to say that they were going to release it as one single piece of work that just happened to be on two discs but instead decided to give the fans more time to forget about how crappy Mezmerize was so that they would shell out another $20 for what will likely be the near exact same thing; mediocre and contrived. For a group so against capitalism, you'd think less would celebrate this kind of marketing, huh?

[workersunity]

omg, firstly Mezmerize and system of a down is anything but mediocre, it doesnt matter if you dont like them, stay confused, and actually they thought it would be better to do them separetly also so people take time to take in the songs, its not a hard concept

[dev/null]

I didn't say System of a Down themselves were contrived nor mediocre (though they could certainly do better, I think), I merely expressed my feelings that Mezmerize was completely underwhelming. Also, separating the disks so people can better "take them in" is PR bullshit, dude... It's spin, wise up, they just want more money.

[Rockfan]

I think some people on this board don't relise that to remain popular bands and musictions have to evolve there music or in the case of some (like SOAD), the music evolves itself. Its been stedily happening ove all there albums. Plus if you stay the same it gets boarding. Take rise against for example, there a dam good band but all the albums have similer sounding songs on them.

Personally I like all the system stuff aye, there all real goo musitions theres no doubt about that.

[Anarcho-Communist]

Toxicity is easily there best album, Needles and Aerials are my favourite songs by them. There new album Mezmerize is a big turn in there style, it is more nu metal like.

[Latifa]

Toxicity is one of my favourite albums ever, its almost one of those CDs where you never have to skip a track cause everythings so good =D

I'm listening to Cigaro right now actually. The guitar lines are excellent, drumming is superb, lyrics kinda suck. Just like most of Mesmerize. Except for Question. That song is.... no suitable adjectives spring to mind. Yeah, that good.