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Stellix
1st September 2005, 05:26
Do you believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified?

I believe that they are. It is a legit form of resistance, in my opinion. No one likes bloodshed, but sometimes it is needed. Any type of negotiations are unlikely to convince the Zionists to stop their reign of terror.

Free Palestine
1st September 2005, 06:12
Suicide bombings:

Take a young Palestinian man, a desperate and poor refugee dweller, from Gaza who lives in horrendous conditions and is forced into a miserable enclave - all of it imposed by Israel - who straps dynamite around himself and detonates it in a crowd of civilians. I don't condone or agree with it, but it is understandable. It is understandable from the point of view of a human being who feels himself being crowded out of life and all of his surroundings, who sees his fellow Palestinians, his parents, sisters, and brothers suffering, being injured and killed. He wants to do something, to strike back. That can be understood as the act of a truly desperate person trying to free himself from unjustly imposed conditions. Living in an enviornment so hopeless and unbearable, that death is perceived as the only escape. It's not something I agree with, but at least I can understand it. When you look at the horrendous economic and political conditions under which Palestinians have lived for generations, it is easy to understand why suicide bombers would exist.

Also, keep in mind, suicide bombings are a relatively recent phenomenon. They started only about 10 years ago. The Zionist media just highlight the suicide bombings yet make no mention of the brutal occupation and Israeli STATE terrorism that CAUSES them. For over 50 years the Palestinians have been living under the gun: dispossessed of their land, massacred, and displaced from their homes, yet the media only chooses to highlight the suicide bombings and ignore their plight for over 50 years.

hasilto
1st September 2005, 06:23
Originally posted by Free [email protected] 1 2005, 05:30 AM
Take a young Palestinian man, a desperate and poor refugee dweller, from Gaza who lives in horrendous conditions and is forced into a miserable enclave - all of it imposed by Israel -
bollocks

these arabs weren't any better off before Israel came into being

of course you leave that part out

Marxmaniac
1st September 2005, 08:04
Originally posted by Free [email protected] 1 2005, 05:30 AM
Suicide bombings:

Take a young Palestinian man, a desperate and poor refugee dweller, from Gaza who lives in horrendous conditions and is forced into a miserable enclave - all of it imposed by Israel - who straps dynamite around himself and detonates it in a crowd of civilians. I don't condone or agree with it, but it is understandable. It is understandable from the point of view of a human being who feels himself being crowded out of life and all of his surroundings, who sees his fellow Palestinians, his parents, sisters, and brothers suffering, being injured and killed. He wants to do something, to strike back. That can be understood as the act of a truly desperate person trying to free himself from unjustly imposed conditions. Living in an enviornment so hopeless and unbearable, that death is perceived as the only escape. It's not something I agree with, but at least I can understand it. When you look at the horrendous economic and political conditions under which Palestinians have lived for generations, it is easy to understand why suicide bombers would exist.

Also, keep in mind, suicide bombings are a relatively recent phenomenon. They started only about 10 years ago. The Zionist media just highlight the suicide bombings yet make no mention of the brutal occupation and Israeli STATE terrorism that CAUSES them. For over 50 years the Palestinians have been living under the gun: dispossessed of their land, massacred, and displaced from their homes, yet the media only chooses to highlight the suicide bombings and ignore their plight for over 50 years.
So are American blacks less desperate, so they don't blow themselves up?

rioters bloc
1st September 2005, 08:11
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 03:41 PM
bollocks

these arabs weren't any better off before Israel came into being

of course you leave that part out
how do you figure that?

before the british mandate on palestine, the arabs and jews lived in relative harmony, and the palestinians were united enough to rise up against the ottoman empire in 1917...
with the rise of zionism and the creation of the state of israel palestinians have literally been shoved into a tiny area of land, most of which isnt arable anyways, and have been kept there by the israeli military through violent and repressive measures


sometimes theres nothing you can do but strike back using violent direct action

hasilto
1st September 2005, 09:21
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 07:29 AM
sometimes theres nothing you can do but strike back using violent direct action
Wrong.

Israel has tried to make peace countless times. The Arabs have carried out acts of terrorism against Israel for decades. All the left wing propaganda will tell you otherwise and I challenge you to research it yourself, and not just on left wing/potsmoking hippy sources.

Israel has every right to exist, PERIOD. Enough is enough.

Israel is going NOWHERE. Until the Arabs figure that out, they are just in for more misery and suffering.

And another thing, since Saddam was paying the families of suicide bombers and basically funding terror, the U.S. had reason enough right there to take him out.

Nothing Human Is Alien
1st September 2005, 09:26
Don't feed the trolls.

mackereth
1st September 2005, 09:39
Israel has tried to make peace countless times. The Arabs have carried out acts of terrorism against Israel for decades. All the left wing propaganda will tell you otherwise and I challenge you to research it yourself, and not just on left wing/potsmoking hippy sources.

Israel has every right to exist, PERIOD. Enough is enough.

Israel is going NOWHERE. Until the Arabs figure that out, they are just in for more misery and suffering.

Hasilto is right on the money. Im sick of people slandering the Israelis. The media always portrays them as aggressors when that is not always the case. THe Arabs don't make it easier for themselves by adopting terrorism.

THERE ARE SO MANY ARAB NATIONS!!! why can't the israelis have one nation to themselves where they don't have to put up with insurgents.

Im not saying the palestineans shouldnt be allowed to live in Israel!

Comrade Sean
1st September 2005, 09:49
Fuck the israelis kill them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and let them burn in hell

ÑóẊîöʼn
1st September 2005, 09:56
Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 1 2005, 09:07 AM
Fuck the israelis kill them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and let them burn in hell
Not all Isrealis agree with the way Palestinians are treated, sectarian fucktard.

And your sig is offensive.

Nothing Human Is Alien
1st September 2005, 10:03
So is yours.

Commandante_Ant
1st September 2005, 10:04
Hmm....what are my feelings on suicide bombers? I think they are pointless. They bring attention to their cause by blowing themselves up but has it ever really brought about change? I dont think it has. And its a shame that these people feel they need to DIE for their to be change. Sounds like the same faith i have in politics but i'm not going to blow myself up to highlight how i feel about Blair etc. It wont make a difference...the whole population of Iraq could blow themselves up and still Bush wouldnt leave. He's there for the "long haul".

The London bombings showed that the UK is NOT immune from these attacks. And with recent news, we're in danger of becoming another america, where there are very little rights and where it increasingly looks like becoming a dictatorship. If anyone speaks out about Blair after mid 2007, or whoever is in charge for that matter, they will be deported? Human rights? BAH!