Communist Anarchism

[IrieLittleDub]

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[IrieLittleDub]

what are you all about lets talk about it in for communist anarchism but in this world it could never happen but maybe some day

[IrieLittleDub]

what is it am i the only one post now

[Red Revolution]

communist anarchism is a contradiction in terms comrade

[bluerev002]

in a way, yes they are opposites. but anarchy is a step of communism, the last step. after a while the goverment will no longer be needed and do, it will wither way.

that is Marx's theory anyway. and i find myself to find this true, but it will be a VERY long while till the goverment withers away.

is this what u wanted irielittledub? or were u looking for something else? next time u make a thread be more specific on what u want? do you want us to say if we are against it or for it? or are u just looking for information but are too afraid to ask.

[EricDHobo]

Thats true but even when the government must keep a strong power over the people it can easily be far more favorable than any other government on the face of this planet.

[Geddan]

Marx quite clearly says that the when the dictatorship of the proletariat is through, a communist society will exist, where the state will wither away. I would guess that a country should be ruled by small societys in union, where direct democracy rule as long as possible. Such a society, where no leader exist, is possible. Think of old time Iceland, the Allting, and the Paris commune. No man were worth more and held more power there than anyone else.

I consider Marx' theories true, that the government will wither away, and that state will either not exist or exist for the society's satisfaction, not vice versa. I hope that a true worldwide anarchic communism will someday come true.

(Edited by Geddan at 9:20 am on Dec. 5, 2002)

[ComradeJunichi]

I believe it was Engels who talked about the state withering away. In a socialist state, the state is created to wither away. But I don't know if that is implied to be political, like literally the state disapearing. Or economically. But...yeah.......

[Nic8]

How is communism and anarchism a contradiction? It is the same thing. Communism is a stateless and classless scoiety. So is anarchy.

[RedScorpion]

Totally correct comrade Nic8, guess how surprised i were when friend to me said that a Anarcist we both know said that Anarcism works but communism doesent :) lol

[Geddan]

Haha, you people should know that I and RedScorpion are classmates, and that the "friend" he says told him about a mutual friend of us which said that about anarchism, is me. I told him that a friend of us said that communism doesn't work, but that anarchism will work if everyone tries to achieve it. If anarchism works, then communism will, but she has failed to realise it..yet :)

[Red Revolution]

ok, so the revolution is sort of Anarchism but it is a planned war between the ruling party and the revolutionaries so it's not really anarchism is it?

[Red Revolution]

Quote: from Nic8 on 4:00 pm on Dec. 5, 2002
Communism is a stateless and classless scoiety. So is anarchy.


But Nic, thats were the similarities end

[RedCeltic]

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!

Anarcho-Communism is the belief that TRUE Communism can never be reached through the State, but throught the people.

All Anarchists are Socialist, because Anarchy is a socialist ideology. Today, Anarchists find themselves calling themselves "Anarcho-Socialist" to mark themselves as true Anarchists as opposed to anarcho-capitalists, which really is a contradiction in terms.

Anyone who says that Anarchy and Communism are a contradiction does not know a thing about eather term.

[bombeverything]

Quote: from RedCeltic on 9:57 pm on Dec. 5, 2002
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!

Anarcho-Communism is the belief that TRUE Communism can never be reached through the State, but throught the people.

All Anarchists are Socialist, because Anarchy is a socialist ideology. Today, Anarchists find themselves calling themselves "Anarcho-Socialist" to mark themselves as true Anarchists as opposed to anarcho-capitalists, which really is a contradiction in terms.

Anyone who says that Anarchy and Communism are a contradiction does not know a thing about eather term.

Word.

[oki]

Quote: from Nic8 on 4:00 pm on Dec. 5, 2002
How is communism and anarchism a contradiction? It is the same thing. Communism is a stateless and classless scoiety. So is anarchy.


communism uses a ditatorship to acheave anarchism,anarchism does not.anarchism are for instant anarchy and cant accept a dictatorship,it's against the ideal of anarchism.

therefore,communist anarchism is a contradiction,anarchist communism isn't. :)

[oki]

Quote: from RedCeltic on 9:57 pm on Dec. 5, 2002
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!

Anarcho-Communism is the belief that TRUE Communism can never be reached through the State, but throught the people.

All Anarchists are Socialist, because Anarchy is a socialist ideology. Today, Anarchists find themselves calling themselves "Anarcho-Socialist" to mark themselves as true Anarchists as opposed to anarcho-capitalists, which really is a contradiction in terms.

Anyone who says that Anarchy and Communism are a contradiction does not know a thing about eather term.


anarchism basiclly has no political color.it's not left or right.capitalist anarchists are just as mutch anarchists,if you take the term anarchism literarily
there are allso anarchists that just want to destroy the system and live in the woods again with nothing.that's not socialism at all.

[Corvus Corax]

Anarchy is not left or right, its down, and Fascism is up, on the authoritarian scale (the one that goes up and down). Communism is far left, state controlled economics, but Anarchism and Communism aren't opposites, and they can both work together quite well. An anarchist is a Social-Liberalist, thus having the social and communist parts. Communism and Neo-Liberalism is the contradiction.