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Morpheus
27th August 2005, 23:00
VENEZUELA TO LEND OIL TO ECUADOR
Monday, Aug 22, 2005
By: Gregory Wilpert * Venezuelanalysis.com

Caracas, Venezuela, August 22, 2005 ‹Venezuela's President Chavez announced that Venezuela would
provide Ecuador with a cost-free loan of oil, so that the country would be able to meet its oil
supply obligations. Ecuador has been undergoing a crisis in its oil industry recently, due to a
partial oil industry strike and the sabotage of some of its oil pipelines.

Ecuador had asked Venezuela for the help and Chavez, during his weekly television program Aló
Presidente, broadcast from Cuba this week, announced that his government had agreed to fulfill the
request. "We decided yesterday. We are going to help Ecuador," said Chavez. "Venezuela will cover
the commitments that the Ecuadorean government has not been able to fulfill these days. They will
not have to pay a cent." Chavez also said he hoped Ecuador would re-join OPEC, which it had left
in 1992.

Ecuador has said it would re-pay Venezuela in oil, once its production has increased again.
According to the president of Ecuador's oil company, Petroecuador, the Venezuelan oil is needed to
supply some of Ecuador's refineries, which are currently operating far below capacity. Its oil
reserves have dropped to a seven-day supply, meaning that it would soon not be able to meet its
contractual commitments. Ecuador is the second largest South American oil supplier to the U.S.
after Venezuela.

The two provinces, Orellana and Sucumbios, where the protests are taking place, normally produce
200,000 barrels of oil per day. Over the weekend, though, production in these areas had dropped to
35,000 barrels per day. Protestors are demanding that transnational oil companies doing business
in Ecuador invest more money in local infrastructure and in jobs. According to the government, it
would take until November to restore the region's oil production to pre-protest levels.

Representatives of Venezuelan opposition parties, such as César Perez Vivas of the
Christian-Democratic party Copei, said they are opposed to the oil loan to Ecuador. According to
Perez Vivas, Chavez is, "committing the crime of treason," by providing this oil, without having
consulted with the parliament. Also, said Perez Vivas, such actions would lead the country to
bankruptcy.

José Luis Farias, a leader of the party Solidarity, whose members had split from the pro-Chavez
coalition in early 2002, argued that Chavez has, "reiterated his mania for distributing money
outside the country while the [Venezuelan] poor he takes care of with a bag of food and some
little mission with $75." Farias was referring to the very popular social programs known as
missions, which provide free health care, high school education, discounted food, and university
scholarships.

Today State Department spokesperson Sean McCormak said, when asked to characterize the
department's position on Venezuela's offer to lend oil to Ecuador, "what we would encourage any
country in the hemisphere to do is if they do come to the aid of a neighbor, do so in goodwill, do
so in a transparent manner, in a way that isn't intended to undercut or influence the political
affairs of another country."

Bush administration officials had repeatedly suggested that Venezuela is seeking to influence or
destabilize governments in the region, particularly those of Ecuador and Bolivia. This is an
accusation the Chavez government has repeatedly denied, pointing out that the Bush administration
has no proof for it allegations. Yesterday, Chavez said it is the Bush government that
destabilizes the world.

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1725

Ownthink
27th August 2005, 23:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 06:18 PM
VENEZUELA TO LEND OIL TO ECUADOR
Monday, Aug 22, 2005
By: Gregory Wilpert * Venezuelanalysis.com

Caracas, Venezuela, August 22, 2005 ‹Venezuela's President Chavez announced that Venezuela would
provide Ecuador with a cost-free loan of oil, so that the country would be able to meet its oil
supply obligations. Ecuador has been undergoing a crisis in its oil industry recently, due to a
partial oil industry strike and the sabotage of some of its oil pipelines.

Ecuador had asked Venezuela for the help and Chavez, during his weekly television program Aló
Presidente, broadcast from Cuba this week, announced that his government had agreed to fulfill the
request. "We decided yesterday. We are going to help Ecuador," said Chavez. "Venezuela will cover
the commitments that the Ecuadorean government has not been able to fulfill these days. They will
not have to pay a cent." Chavez also said he hoped Ecuador would re-join OPEC, which it had left
in 1992.

Ecuador has said it would re-pay Venezuela in oil, once its production has increased again.
According to the president of Ecuador's oil company, Petroecuador, the Venezuelan oil is needed to
supply some of Ecuador's refineries, which are currently operating far below capacity. Its oil
reserves have dropped to a seven-day supply, meaning that it would soon not be able to meet its
contractual commitments. Ecuador is the second largest South American oil supplier to the U.S.
after Venezuela.

The two provinces, Orellana and Sucumbios, where the protests are taking place, normally produce
200,000 barrels of oil per day. Over the weekend, though, production in these areas had dropped to
35,000 barrels per day. Protestors are demanding that transnational oil companies doing business
in Ecuador invest more money in local infrastructure and in jobs. According to the government, it
would take until November to restore the region's oil production to pre-protest levels.

Representatives of Venezuelan opposition parties, such as César Perez Vivas of the
Christian-Democratic party Copei, said they are opposed to the oil loan to Ecuador. According to
Perez Vivas, Chavez is, "committing the crime of treason," by providing this oil, without having
consulted with the parliament. Also, said Perez Vivas, such actions would lead the country to
bankruptcy.

José Luis Farias, a leader of the party Solidarity, whose members had split from the pro-Chavez
coalition in early 2002, argued that Chavez has, "reiterated his mania for distributing money
outside the country while the [Venezuelan] poor he takes care of with a bag of food and some
little mission with $75." Farias was referring to the very popular social programs known as
missions, which provide free health care, high school education, discounted food, and university
scholarships.

Today State Department spokesperson Sean McCormak said, when asked to characterize the
department's position on Venezuela's offer to lend oil to Ecuador, "what we would encourage any
country in the hemisphere to do is if they do come to the aid of a neighbor, do so in goodwill, do
so in a transparent manner, in a way that isn't intended to undercut or influence the political
affairs of another country."

Bush administration officials had repeatedly suggested that Venezuela is seeking to influence or
destabilize governments in the region, particularly those of Ecuador and Bolivia. This is an
accusation the Chavez government has repeatedly denied, pointing out that the Bush administration
has no proof for it allegations. Yesterday, Chavez said it is the Bush government that
destabilizes the world.

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1725
Holy shit, he's just lending this oil to people. Did you see the other article on Chavez promising cheaper oil prices to poor U.S. Citizens?

Seeker
28th August 2005, 00:20
It sounds like he is giving it away so that it can be sold by Ecuador to other nations.


it would soon not be able to meet its
contractual commitments.


"Venezuela will cover
the commitments that the Ecuadorean government has not been able to fulfill these days. They will
not have to pay a cent."






Who was striking and why? Was it a strike by the corporate management intended to trigger the clause in the contracts about penalties for failure to meet quota?


If not, the action seems counterproductive. It hurts the working class of Ecuador and helps the owners of the oil company which apparently are giving their workers reason to strike.

sapho
28th August 2005, 00:53
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4177190.stm


Oil crisis ends in Ecuador for now....

Seeker
28th August 2005, 19:54
Could it be some kind of ploy to undermine the Petrodollar?

I just don't get it?

Why would he do that?

Severian
29th August 2005, 20:30
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 01:12 PM
Could it be some kind of ploy to undermine the Petrodollar?

I just don't get it?

Why would he do that?
To improve relations/gain influence with Ecuador.

There's a quote from some U.S. spokesman where he seems to be concerned it might have that effect.

The response of the Venezuelan opposition is also amusing; they accuse him of helping people abroad instead of taking care of the poor at home. Never mind that they never did either when they were in power. "Those who cannot stand up for others will be unable to stand up for themselves" as Castro says.

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But Morpheus may well be right that this is scabbing on the strike in Ecuador, where workers and peasants have been demanding that oil revenues be used to meet social needs.

My question would be, how did the strikers respond to this move by Chavez?

Nothing Human Is Alien
29th August 2005, 23:02
Why would he do that? Opportunism.

southernmissfan
29th August 2005, 23:10
Venezuela needs more markets for oil so that they won't be so dependent on the US. In the short term, it might hurt Ecuadorian workers, but in the long term, it's probably a good move.

Des
29th August 2005, 23:31
how much oil does Venezuela have...? must be a rather large amount!

Nothing Human Is Alien
29th August 2005, 23:49
The US gets 9% of its oil from Ven & 4% from Iraq, so that should put it in some perspective.

poppy
30th August 2005, 01:56
The indigenous and native people of Ecuador see almost no benefit from oil revenues. Almost all of the profit goes to the world bank and IMF for past debts. The environmental damage and hardship the oil industry has caused to Ecuador has done nothing but cause suffering. It's not a matter of workers wanting fair wages, it's the people of Ecuador ... the poor and indigenous that want relief from their suffering. Schools, hospitals and social spending are a trade off, but many want the oil industry banned from their land and territories. The oil in Ecuador is pumped from the amazon rain forest. The poeple causing detruction and damage to the oil industry are the ones that live and depend on the jungle for survival. It is not a worker struggle or a revolution for them. It's not money. It's the right to exist in a healthy and abundant land. They do not give a damb about world politics. They want to be left in peace.

I visited a small tribe called the Huaorani last winter. They are a small group ... about 2000 or so that live in 30-some odd villages in the Ecuadorian amazon. Most do not even speak Spanish, the national language. These people have been fighting to dispel oil companies from their territory for years. Oil has poisoned the rivers and caused much sickness and death for these people that depend on the land and health of the environment for survival. How can they fight oil companies? 2000 people that don't have one fucking dollar between them. The village I went to had 4 plywood buildings with aluminum roofs, built on stilts. These buildings are the school... a gift from the oil company to this huaorani village. In return the company wants to be free to ravage their land, poison the rivers, rob them of their culture and probably cause the extinction of the Huaorani people without any obstruction from pesty Indian people and their tree hugging followers.

I love Chavez and I admire what he is trying to do in Latin America. But I think oil is an evil that entire world needs to break free from. It is evil. We are killing our planet. He is not helping the the Ecuadoran poor with his oil. Ecuador need to be free from their debt, just as the poor nations in Africa do. Palacio, the new Ecuadorian president has already said he will not commit the oil revenues to the world bank as is demanded from him. He can't. Too many Ecuadorians will die. It blows my fucking mind that these Latin American nations that are so wealthy with natural resources are kept with their faces in the dirt by big boot of big brother.