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slim
27th August 2005, 16:02
Im wondering. How come its always our American counterparts who have all the fun lol. I feel bitter that no British organisation has bothered to make a simultaneous protest in London, Edinbourugh, Cardiff or Belfast.
I have accepted that the groups in the UK are not even worth their names and can even accuse them of being paper...unless they make something happen.
Opinions? Should we make our own protest?
slim
28th August 2005, 14:39
nineteen people viewed this post and no-one answered. I am rather sickened. Revolutionaries?
Slim. HRA. Sil Anmachadhra.
Organic Revolution
28th August 2005, 16:47
i looked at it but what was i supposed to say... yeah good luck with your protest? i wont be there cause im across an ocean from you?
slim
28th August 2005, 16:59
There wont be one if no-one wants it enough. I need replies.
Organic Revolution
28th August 2005, 17:42
wish i could help you out, but thats impossible.
slim
28th August 2005, 18:04
No worries. I wish i could help but the people need to help themselves. It seems that the revolution that requires the awakening of the people also requires an awakening of the left lol.
No worries. I have my plans in place comrade.
Salutations.
Donnie
29th August 2005, 17:23
I have accepted that the groups in the UK are not even worth their names and can even accuse them of being paper...unless they make something happen.
Are you a member of a revolutionary organisation? I mean apart from you invented 'HRA' organisation.
Most of the stuff like demos and RTS are done within there own political organisation. For example some organisation hold there own demo's etc, so if you're not a member of an established organisation you won't hear of anything.
There was an Earth First demo or whatever it was in the Peak District recently I was going to go but I'm going to something else so I need to save my money.
guerillablack
29th August 2005, 19:26
Have you networked with other organizations that may have similair goals. What is stopping you from organizing a protest or what has stopped you?Why wait for people to do what you can do. Like you said, people need to help themselves.
slim
30th August 2005, 10:19
The groups in short, need eachother.
We need large protests organised nationwide to converge on the seats of imperial power in London.
The HRA alone cannot achieve such a task, neither can any other group. I have tried to talk to other groups but they do not listen. The fact that i talk to other gorups makes them suspicious. They want subordinates, not equals. The groups are therefore not worth fighting for.
They cannot achieve their goals alone.
The HRA wants to bring the fight back. In 2007 it will do that. However, a few peaceful actions before this wouldn't go amiss.
The HRA would be glad to hold the banner but we need to be recognised as a group worthy of the task. We need the other groups to join us, even as neutral allies. We need the bickering and division to stop whilst we undergo the task of dethroning the imperialist cappie scum. We should give the people a country worth bickering over instead of bickering over a fictious country that is controlled by those who oppress their people.
If we are to organise an action; i want a million people there in defiance of tyranny.
Do chara,
Slim. HRA. Sil Anmachadhra.
Lord Testicles
30th August 2005, 10:26
pardon my ignorance but what is HRA?
slim
30th August 2005, 10:40
It is my radical political group. It stands for the Human Rights Association and is dedicated to the end of the capitalist imperial system of governance in the UK. We will exercise our cause from 2007 with words and violence.
Lord Testicles
30th August 2005, 10:49
Does it have a website or something so i can find out more?
slim
30th August 2005, 11:06
www.freewebs.com/humanrightsassociation
Its rather basic and has some innacuracies in some places but its okay.
Lord Testicles
30th August 2005, 11:12
thanks "imperial Brotherhood" is an innacuracie i hope?
slim
30th August 2005, 11:14
Its a test for those who take things too literally.
There are many meanings for the word imperial. The one thing that people suspect is not the definition intended.
Lord Testicles
30th August 2005, 11:17
phew thats good to hear
slim
30th August 2005, 11:32
Lol. Ive had many a debate over the name of the IB. Its too exhausting lol.
I think that the left need a good kick up the arse if you know what i mean. Get them into action. Defeat the unoppossed right wing fascists.
Lord Testicles
30th August 2005, 11:46
Originally posted by
[email protected] 30 2005, 10:50 AM
Lol. Ive had many a debate over the name of the IB. Its too exhausting lol.
I think that the left need a good kick up the arse if you know what i mean. Get them into action. Defeat the unoppossed right wing fascists.
well i have to admit that i have seen next to no major leftie action in the uk
Organic Revolution
30th August 2005, 14:05
haha revolution by 07. have fun getting gunned down... you will be a vanguard.. no one will support you.
guerillablack
30th August 2005, 17:23
Originally posted by
[email protected] 30 2005, 04:37 AM
The groups in short, need eachother.
We need large protests organised nationwide to converge on the seats of imperial power in London.
The HRA alone cannot achieve such a task, neither can any other group. I have tried to talk to other groups but they do not listen. The fact that i talk to other gorups makes them suspicious. They want subordinates, not equals. The groups are therefore not worth fighting for.
They cannot achieve their goals alone.
The HRA wants to bring the fight back. In 2007 it will do that. However, a few peaceful actions before this wouldn't go amiss.
The HRA would be glad to hold the banner but we need to be recognised as a group worthy of the task. We need the other groups to join us, even as neutral allies. We need the bickering and division to stop whilst we undergo the task of dethroning the imperialist cappie scum. We should give the people a country worth bickering over instead of bickering over a fictious country that is controlled by those who oppress their people.
If we are to organise an action; i want a million people there in defiance of tyranny.
Do chara,
Slim. HRA. Sil Anmachadhra.
You don't need a million people to have a sucessful event. Of course the more the merrier, but you want to attract attention at least. Shit 10 people protesting sometimes can draw attention and get news coverage.
Stop complaining and faulting everyone else.
bunk
30th August 2005, 18:00
Originally posted by
[email protected] 30 2005, 10:50 AM
Lol. Ive had many a debate over the name of the IB. Its too exhausting lol.
I think that the left need a good kick up the arse if you know what i mean. Get them into action. Defeat the unoppossed right wing fascists.
OK of the criticisms you have made of existing leftist groups what have you done so far working towards the the things which you feel other organizations are lacking in?
Kez
30th August 2005, 19:29
The Left doesnt need a kick up the arse, it needs organisation, and members to be active to build up the organisation.
i dont know what your plans are for 2007, but if i were you i'd reconsider. No point building a new group, there are plenty about, join one and help build.
Nobody is gonna listen to you if you have less knowledge authority than other groups...so read up first off...
TC
31st August 2005, 01:07
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/publicactivistmeetings.htm
The Stop the War Coalition and Muslim Association of Britian and Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament have a national demo on sept 24th in central london.
slim
31st August 2005, 12:28
Thank you tragic clown,
I hope that i can make it.
Kez,
In my eyes, organising and getting more members is what i referred to as "a kick up the arse". They are currently doing nothing to build support for revolution. It is as if they have conformed to the idea that the capitalist system has won. They need to revitalise their efforts.
All the groups around are incompetent in my eyes. If they do not have the ability or the foresight to even talk to my group after several invitations, then they are not worth it. Every political group needs to co-operate with other groups. They do not do this so i cannot place my trust and my abilities in their hands.
I will work for the revolution on my terms and conform to other groups when they bother to join the effort. As far as i see they are not our allies. They are a waste of time.
Josh,
My group has the enthusiasm and optimism needed. We have vision and see revolution as a possibility. This makes our group massively different from those in existance. We will not conform to capitalist imperialism. We can only grow in strength.
bunk
31st August 2005, 16:11
Originally posted by
[email protected] 31 2005, 11:46 AM
Josh,
My group has the enthusiasm and optimism needed. We have vision and see revolution as a possibility. This makes our group massively different from those in existance. We will not conform to capitalist imperialism. We can only grow in strength.
This is hardly a difference except you've set a date for revolution??? Whereas other groups don't see it as reasonable or their right to set a date for the working class to rise up. Where has your group been in a public eye and when have you had a speaker present your case to the mainstream media which is what you criticized other groups for not doing
slim
31st August 2005, 16:39
I dont see it as my right to set a date for when we rise up. I see it as my right to say when i will rise up and if the working class want to join us then they will. I see it my right to give the people revolution. I see it my right to give the people what i can, a state free from capitalism. I see it my right to give my people a better way of life.
We dont want to use the mainstream media as a means for gaining support. I dont know of any mainstream media that would commit treason by supporting us either. I criticise the groups for not trying to gain support. No-one really knows about them, let alone their names.
My group is striving to gain groundroots support without the use of capitalist propaganda. I want my people to talk to all potential supporters individually. When the time is nearer, then there will be more of a public scene.
Ultra-Violence
2nd September 2005, 03:51
slim all this talk about sept 2007 really scares me i hope when you take action its not anything to ras or harsh that can soil the lefts image even more just thought id let you know and i hope you suceed in your efforts 2007!
cheers!
:hammer:
slim
2nd September 2005, 16:13
Its July 2007 but yea thanks.
The image of the left will not be damaged. We will use tactics that will not be seen as dishonourable or cowardly.
I hope that you can join us once it is underway.
Slim.
Ultra-Violence
2nd September 2005, 18:46
slim id love to be there but i live in the states sdlay unuff.
but id gladly help any way i can!
:hammer:
slim
3rd September 2005, 15:18
The action will begin in the UK but i expect it will not end there. The states will oppose us and i will need allies.
Salutations
Do chara
Slim. HRA. Sil Anmachadhra.
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