This Is Not A Christian Nation

[Neighborhood Bully]

I've stumbled across some interesting language from a treaty that the United States entered into in 1797.* I don't think that the quoted language conclusively resolves the debate about the role of christianity in the U.S. government.* It does, however, offer a glimpse into how an early Congress perceived the role of christianity in the founding of the U.S.

"[T]he Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion. . ."

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampag...02.db&recNum=23

The quoted phrase is from Article 11 of the treaty.* Click on "next image" to see it.

The Treaty of Tripoli was ratified by the Senate on June 7, 1797 and signed by Pres. John Adams.

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[MitchellStyron]

The US may not have been "founded" based on Christianity but nearly every lawmaker and important thinker involved in the creation and policy making of the US over the last 229 years has been a Christian.

As long as Christians aren't making public policy based directly from the Bible or kidnapping people and chopping off their heads, I have absolutely non problem with them. Let them have their cult and their rhetoric as long as they aren't being militant about it, I don't care.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 11:59 AM
The US may not have been "founded" based on Christianity but nearly every lawmaker and important thinker involved in the creation and policy making of the US over the last 229 years has been a Christian.
So? Point? :unsure:


As long as Christians aren't making public policy based directly from the Bible or kidnapping people and chopping off their heads, I have absolutely non problem with them.

That is why they thrive and if you let them indoctrinate others they can do those things when reactionary theocrats take power; we're all fucked then, thanks :rolleyes:


Let them have their cult and their rhetoric as long as they aren't being militant about it, I don't care.

You don't care, but they do. Christians either hate you, pity you or are not "Christian."
Christian theocrates attempt to collect the young and take power generally... its a plague.

[Clarksist]

Originally posted by 313C7 iVi4RX+Aug 30 2005, 12:28 PM--> (313C7 iVi4RX @ Aug 30 2005, 12:28 PM)
[email protected] 30 2005, 11:59 AM
The US may not have been "founded" based on Christianity but nearly every lawmaker and important thinker involved in the creation and policy making of the US over the last 229 years has been a Christian.
So? Point? :unsure: [/b]
If everyone who has molded and created the US bases their creation on Christianity... then the US misewell call itself what it is: a Christian Nation.

[MoscowFarewell]

The Writers of it were Deist. They believe God abandoned the universe. That isn't Christian at all.