Wondering if anyone else here is like me

[RandomRival]

I am Roman Catholic, a Trotskist and what not (see signature) and Im tolerant to every religion in the world except Baptist & The Brittish Protestants (I Support the Irish Republican Army)

I was just curious if there was any Catholic Trotskyist or IRA Supporters here.


BTW From what I have seen, many of you are intelligent and this is one of the best Radical Left forums I have ever seen! :D

[More Fire for the People]

Welcome.
I used to be a Trotskyist before I rejected Leninism and all the anti-Marxism that came with it. But I am a Pentecostal, and I am a Council Communist. I support IRA to an extent, their purpose is rightful but their ideology is murky.

[RandomRival]

I use to be in favor of Tito's way of communism but now I like Trotsky's..plus his fits more with my religion as far as tolerance goes.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Communists don't tolerate any religious nonsense.

[RandomRival]

Then I guess I might as well go read "Mein Kampft" and start practicing Baptist culture & Inbreeding.


Right?

Because 1 comrade of mine thinks he knows everything, Absolute is something the Fascist use....and right now you come off like one of them.

[Kez]

Hmm, the IRA used to be good, but with the provos the leadership became really corrupt and lost all genuine revolutionary socialist meaning, what you think?

[brickshithouse]

hi, personaly i anti-religon, baptised a catholic i rejected the religon very early as do not live by ifs or organisations like the vatican who are facists.. i will repect a personal choice tho.as for ira i grew up with them and hate got people know were.i do not think there ideas are progresive or nessicerry(sorry bout spellings) and play no part in a better society for all.whats your views on connolly and the ICA-IRISH CITIZAN ARMY.. would u consider revival of them in defenice of the working class aganist police state?

[slim]

Hello,

I am a strong supporter of the IRA of 1920 under the leadership of Michael Collins. I support the IRA of 69' for its defence of the catholic ghettos but after 75' they lose my support.

I am a catholic but i havent been to Church in months. Begging for forgiveness 40% of the mass seems a waste of time when you could be talking about a better tommorow and discussing moral issues.

Connolly was a legend but the revival of his army is an issue i am agaisnt. For one thing the ICA and the IRA were pretty much the same people.

The reason i am against the revival of the ICA is that Ireland has seen too much pain and bloodshed for us to use it for the cause of revolution.

I will not see Ireland descend into another bloodbath to save armchair revolutionaries from actually fighting.

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 06:06 PM
Communists don't tolerate any religious nonsense.
Agreed. Fairy Tales have no place in material reality.

[bolshevik butcher]

I myself am not religous, i was forced to go to church until recently and hated it. But i am open minded enough to welcome comerades from all beliefs.

[Anti-establishment]

I'm a ''Catholic'' from Belfast, even though I don't practice it any random loyalist in the mood for lynchin a Catholic wouldn't care that I don't attend mass so i'm always classed as a member of the ''Catholic Community'', and yes I am a supporter of the IRA.

[Lord Testicles]

sorry to point this out random rival but umm...you say you hate conservatism but yet you say that you are a roman catholic which is one of the most conservative religions around. I have no problem with any ones religion though i think people should be allowed to belive in what they want as long as they dont force theyre belives on others.

[RandomRival]

You think Catholic is mroe conservative than Baptist, Methodist or Protestant?

[Lord Testicles]

I think they are as bad as each other i have only met a few christians that have had liberal views. I have actually met more liberal baptist and protistant than i have catholic.

[RandomRival]

We are all comrades, we all want the same goal...so lets not have religion (Thats what Democracy and the far right want us to do) get in the way of our same goal, The Motherland of Global COMMUNISM!

[Sorrel]

I'm a pagan socialist and I really don't see why some of our comrades belittle us (all theists that is) for our beliefs. If your an atheist then fine but don't critise the rest of us because of it.

[RandomRival]

The majority of people I know in real life are either Scientologyist Communist, Protestant Socialist, or Athiest Communist.

[workersunity]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 03:29 PM
Welcome.
I used to be a Trotskyist before I rejected Leninism and all the anti-Marxism that came with it. But I am a Pentecostal, and I am a Council Communist. I support IRA to an extent, their purpose is rightful but their ideology is murky.
I really enjoy your sig, way to go

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 10:35 AM
Hmm, the IRA used to be good, but with the provos the leadership became really corrupt and lost all genuine revolutionary socialist meaning, what you think?
This always happens when a RA post comes up, what the fuck do u know, where you from jesus christ get urself educated before u put a comment up

[slim]

He wasnt exactly wrong. The provo leadership was taken over by the Adams think tank. They did well but in the process they eliminated leftist threats within the army.

[Reds]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 07:10 PM
You think Catholic is mroe conservative than Baptist, Methodist or Protestant?
Methodists alow homosexuals to go into the church and evan have gay pasters at some churchs.

[OleMarxco]

Well, now that just sound's pre-shru...uh, tolerant, but'ah, how can we trust'rat - Put mush stock in it, huh? ;)

But to answer the actual question - Catholic's are just as reactionary as Protestant's, onl y less powerful in Great Britain :P

Even so, they're just a sub-sort of Christian's, and uh, not really representin' all o'rem. There's pretty few Methodist's out there, and I don't think all of them are as tolerant
to Gay&#39;s as the rules would say <_<

[captain donald]

People beliefs in God are not the barrier to communism. Its these corporate religions LIKE catholocism and all listed above. These organized religions deal with so much money and hold so much power, they will revert it directly toward fascism if we allow it in a communist society. Get together with your friends and pray, believe in your god, but do not believe in an earthly system.

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by captain [email protected] 28 2005, 04:55 PM
People beliefs in God are not the barrier to communism. Its these corporate religions LIKE catholocism and all listed above. These organized religions deal with so much money and hold so much power, they will revert it directly toward fascism if we allow it in a communist society. Get together with your friends and pray, believe in your god, but do not believe in an earthly system.
Belief in a God = fine

Belief in a Religion = Not fine.

[captain donald]

Belief in a God = fine

Belief in a Religion = Not fine.

ya, i shoulda condensed that in the first place. thanks.

[OleMarxco]

Well, now &#39;rat&#39;s an easy and simple way to describe, ain&#39;t it? ;)
But not entirely accurate. It&#39;s very hard to seperate these thing&#39;s;
Even &#39;tho, it would be enjoyable to let people be spiritual meanwhilst
not allowing a religion, the mindset "lay&#39;s out the bricks" for a religion to
be founded, and if their conviction&#39;s strong enough, what&#39;s to keep them
from materialising their believes and forcing them on other&#39;s, to "spread
the good word"? In they&#39;re eyes, even if forces of society is against them,
it&#39;s the only right thing, everyone is heathen&#39;s except for them, they will admit that,
if pressed enough.

They would certainly - although it could not happen - base a cult on it, among their friends, inevitabely making an religion, which is so subjective, you&#39;ll have no idea there&#39;s even a religion behind the scenes...before it&#39;s too late&#33;

Sad but true, they have to be "oppressed"&#33; :D
The only way to truly cast aside this rubbish,
is to STOP BELIEVE IN GOD. Religion is the dark side...
Believing in God is the shortcut to it.