Thanksgiving

[Lefty]

Most of the people I talk to realize the pilgrims really weren't good and certainly don't deserve a holiday. Why do you think the American people still keep this holiday going? Ignorance? Habit? Btw, what do you think of Thanksgiving?

[truthaddict11]

its the celebration of american imperialism where every one is a glutton. just like american imperialism.

[Lefty]

Don't you think it is a little more innocent than that? The reason I celebrate it is to get together with my relatives and to kind of do the "Harvest Feast" thing. YOu know, give thanks for having food and each other. I was kinda playing the devils advocate in my first post. I dont think people sit down and have a good laugh about how the people in Uganda don't have food.

[Red Circle]

Maybe it is a habit but nothing's wrong with a habit every not and then. It's a good excuse for my entire family to get together, eat loads of food and actually talk. Kind of like Christmas except we don't go to mass.

[ratm545]

its nice with the relatives and all. we shouldnt celebrate it for the reasons we say though. they say the indians and pilgrims got along. yea..... thats why we took THEIR land and killed them. celebrate it for being thankful for having life.

[bluerev002]

well, first off it is traditiont with da pilgrims and all. but it was made a holiday cuz of Abraham Lincoln. he made it a holiday as a time to give thanks for all the things we have during the time of the civil war.

atleast i think it was during the civil war, so mainly it is a time for peace, not because of pilgrims coming to a new land, but that is the theme of it all.

[truthaddict11]

my first post was my opinion of the whole pilgrim-indian thing and what followed. but being among friends and family is different

[RAFAELESCARCEGA]

Thanksgiving is the celebration of the american spirit. It teaches future generations of americans to take advantage of anyone who lends them a helping hand, just like the pilgrims did to the native americans. It also teaches them to be friendly to those whom they plan on exploiting until the time is right for oppression.

[suffianr]

Yes, this is perhaps a rather curious cause for celebration. Not to say that I am a stranger to Western traditions, I grew up in London, and went through Lent, Boxing Day and Easter, but really, what is the most symbolic aspect of this holiday?

Because Christmas is symbolic as a time of sharing, St. Valentines is a time of peace & love, and on the first day of Ramadhan Muslims all over the world (especially in Palestine) get ritually bombed by American Forces...

[Lefty]

God i love turkey.


*coughs* carry on, gentlemen and gentlewomen

[IRANeAZAD5]

I thought thanksgiving was a day to say thanks?

Fuck the pilgrims and chris colombus btw

[Kows]

Yeah, CC and the pilgrims were ignorant to everything except their own hatred, which they both indulged very willingfully. Of course, I love thanksgiving, however - it's a time for family, friends, etc. My family doesn't turn on the TV one time. It's a time of reconcilliation and such. I don't think that it 'celebrates imperialism', at least in my family, but in the end in our society everything comes down to that.

[Xvall]

Thanksgiving is a disgusting holiday. A corporate excuse. Just like christmas is used to tell people to buy toys, electronics, and other useless crap they don't need; thanksgiving is an excuse for people to stuff their faces full of fattening food, and ignore everyone hungry in the streets. It celebrates genocide, imperialism, and slavery. It should be abolished.

[antieverything]

Thanksgiving is simply a harvest festival. The Pilgrims and Indians DID sit down and eat together for the first Thanksgiving. The only thing Thanksgiving celebrates is what we have in life. I don't know about everyone else but in my family we always work at homeless shelters during thanksgiving...sometimes we have people just out of prison as our guests.

There is nothing wrong with family getting together and having a big meal.

[Pete]

Thanksgiving is the Briton (You know King Arthur "I am king of the Briton") harvest festival brought to the United States by the Puritans, and Canada by General Amherst and his conquering troops. We have celebrated (for my information) since that date, and even more so since the Loyalist Immigration at its traditional date at the end of October. The Americans, living in a warmer climate, moved it into the end of November glorified it and turned it into a consumer holiday.

[Lefty]

lighten up, drake. Its a ritual at my families thanksgiving to pass around a bucket or something and gather money for charity. Then we stuff our face with food and talk, like your supposed to.

[bluerev002]

Quote: from Lefty on 5:23 am on Dec. 2, 2002
lighten up, drake. Its a ritual at my families thanksgiving to pass around a bucket or something and gather money for charity. Then we stuff our face with food and talk, like your supposed to.

sounds like the church is making a scheme to get our money and stuff their faces with turky!! oh dear oh dear oh dear!!

[sypher]

I think we should celebrate thanksgiving. It shows how kind the native americans were. They are minding their own buisness when all of a sudden some honkys in black hats come over with sticks up there asses and their puritian, holyer than thou attitude. the pilgrams loot thier villages and steal their land. when The Natives confront the pompous assholes they welcome them with open arms and teach them how to survive on their own. For their troubles those "indians" get killed by small pox and by those pilgrams via guns. We need a holiday that remembers the fucked up way the white man entered the americas.


I am white by the way so I get to say honky ;)

[Nickademus]

thank you crazy pete for bringing up the info that thanksgiving is not just an american holiday. in canada we celebrate it in october. the story i've always been told is that it represents all the good trade and communication between the aboriginals and the settlers. its a bunch of bunk though. really it derived from the harvest and is a feast to celebrate and give thanx for the good harvest. in that sense its a good holiday and i still see the value in it (even if it does mean i have to go see my family) but we have to realize it doesn't really represent settlers vs. indians.