Have I made a fool of myself?

[BitchBrew]

Eh, Hi. In another forum theres a thread I'm cindof debating in. It's about mexican imigrants to America. Anyway that really isn't the point, the point is that I have sort of said something like this:
"In some places in "the land of the free", black people are to afraid to go out at nights in fear of cops and criminals and gangs, some streets are full of hookers, crackadicts, homeless people, criminals.......... In some small towns in America the unimployment rating is over 50%, because thay were founded on industries that got put down and mooved to child-slave factories in Africa."

I did say that this is not comen, only in a few arrias. But the question is, have i made a total fucking ass of myself? Or are there any arrias where the sitiuation is this bad? I think that like Mickel Moore said something about him growing up in a small town like the one I talked about. If there are such arrias, pleas give me links or other stuff that I can yous to support my claims. If there is no truth at all to the statements I been given, could you say something I could us in my defence insted? I'm fearing I might have to take their liberal and conservative shit about me seeing to much gangsta moovies.

Also the forum is swedish, so no one in the debate actually live in America.

[which doctor]

The town where michael moore grew up in is Flint, Michigan. It was built on heavy industry, primarily major car companies such as Ford and GM. As these companies move out because of cheap labor in other countries, many of these "Flintstones" have become unemployed.

Another city Gary, Indiana, where some of my family is from, is in the same situation. Steel mills once employed tens of thousands of workers in this lakeside city. But as automation has reduced the workforce dramitcally, unemployment is rampant in this area. Now the city is overwhelmingly black and many of its young people turn to crime.

So some of what you had to say was true...

[Clarksist]

Man, you should never make claims before you have the proof in hand. But luckily, most of this stuff is actually pretty common.


black people are to afraid to go out at nights in fear of cops and criminals and gangs,

True!!! The KKK is living proof. Just look at places in the South where black people don't even look white people in the eye in fear of being murdered.


some streets are full of hookers, crackadicts, homeless people, criminals..........

Of course. To deny this claim is simply stupidity.


In some small towns in America the unimployment rating is over 50%, because thay were founded on industries that got put down and mooved to child-slave factories in Africa

I don't know about 50%... there is a staggering amount of unemployment in some areas, but perhaps not over half.

Now, as far as data, the claims you made don't really need them, that last claim is kind of spectacular, but you shouldn't run into much argument. All countries have these problems, at least if they are capitalistic.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Worse comes to worse... its just a message board. :lol:

[BitchBrew]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 08:52 PM
All countries have these problems, at least if they are capitalistic.


Actually the problems I talked about is very uncomen in sweden, no place have over 50% uninployment, black people dont have to be afraid of going out. And allthoug prostituion does exist in Sweden, it's not open on the streets, mmmm maybe in some arrias but that is very uncomen. As fare as the homeless part, we do have that problems on the streets but I don't think there are any streets cramed with it. And Sweden is capitalistic, so these peoples are not used to that cinde's of problems.

Anywaw, CompaneroDeLibertad, thanks for the info, but you don&#39;t have any links or something with statistics to prove tha the 50% of the Black community in New York is uninployed? This might seem as somethin undiniable facts for you, but not for these people, they just say I have seen to many american gangster movies <_<

[Enragé]

sweden is also one of the most prosperous nations of the world, and, with finland, one of the pioneers of "the middle way" between capitalism and communism.

http://www.plu.edu/~poverty/stats/home.html
is a good source of information on the uS
its a bit outdates, but i doubt things have changed much

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 08:09 PM
In New York alot of what you say is true, and many other cities like Washington, Detroit, Philadelphia, Miami, etc.

And the unemployment rate for Black men in New York is 50% or higher.
This is true, but I live in a city that is in bad shape, and many black people don&#39;t want jobs, they just collect unemployment and live off it, same goes for whites and hispanics, but just figured I&#39;d let it be know many don&#39;t even LOOK for a job