A one-state solution

[KickMcCann]

For roughly the last 50 years, the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean Sea has been in constant violence. I'm not going to start taking pro-Israeli or pro-Arab sides on why this is, either way, this conflict is horrible for both sides.
So lets cut to the chase, if there was a movement by Israelis and Palestinians to overthrow the PLO, the Israeli gov't, all the terrorist groups and replace them with a unified state, would you support it? Do you think the majority of the population on both sides would support it?

[Conghaileach]

The has been the mandate of the PFLP for some time. As for whether or not it would be supported, who knows.

[KickMcCann]

yeah, I know it was, but the group also conducted terrorist atacks against Israelis, so they are biased for the pro-arab side.

[Ari HR]

I must admit that your idea is not bad at all. Maybe you are right- it would solve the midle eastern differences

[Umoja]

The United Arab League needs to be remade if you ask me. But I doubt their'll be another Nasser, and people will worry about it being to Egyptocentric like what happened in the 60's.

[thursday]

How would this solve anything?

[Marxist ally]

I would definately agree with the unification of israel and palistine but can the jews and arabs in the area live in harmony?

[chamo]

it simply wouldnt work, sure the region would be united but people still keep their political views and religious beliefs

[timbaly]

It's a great idea that could work, but it would be hard to accomplish. It seems as if hatred is ingraved into the heads of both jews and arabs alike it would take a miracle for them to live in peaceful co-existence. I just don't see the two groups uniting especially because of the religious tension, most of the arabs and jews would rather fight for religion than greater good, or so it seems.

[Umoja]

Nasser was a Socialist, if most of the Arab states were united, and under a Socialist government, then some seriously positive change would happen to the Arab world, and then possibly spill over to Israel, realizing it has no chance against such a state, and maybe giving Israeli left parties a chance.... This is assuming the United Arab League would be Socialist like it was before.

[new democracy]

Umoja, nasser was an oppressive dictator and a nationalist. read what i posted here and tell if he is really such a good guy: http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...rum=26&topic=18 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=26&topic=18) . and about the topic, i support it. we don't need another ethnic state.

[Sinistra]

First of all i would like to say that Nasser was dectator , racsist ... whatever you want . dont give me any crap about him being a socialist .

i wlould also like to say that it is a beautiful idea , but there are two problems , the first is that there will always be extreamists that want to fuck things up , and second is that if there will be no Israel , then there will be no home for the jewish people .

[Umoja]

I don't think he was a very racist person. His image was warped. He stopped his country from being slaves to Europe, and as a result got attacked by Israel, and was blamed for being anti-Israel/Anti-Zionist after that. That doesn't make him racist, it makes him anti-Israeli.

[new democracy]

his opposition to zionism doesn't make him racist, his deportation of most of the egyptian jews make him one.

[KickMcCann]

sinistra;

there have always been extremists, and there always will be extremists in every society, but the societies that take all the power and influence away from the extremists manage to survive. People would rather follow a voice of moderation, but it must be a strong voice, stronger than the extremists.
I think you could have a single state that was the official Jewish homeland and the official homeland for the Palestinian natives; it's just a matter of making the right declarations and then adjusting society to fit those declarations.

[Umoja]

But if he didn't deport the Jews, wouldn't they probubly face violence anyway? I am sure quite a few Egyptians died in Sinai, and had serious bad blood with the Jews in the country.

No deportation isn't right, but he wasn't doing it purely out of a prejudice against the Jewish-Egyptian population.

[Reuben]

Umoja, I am an anti-zionist but I cannot believe you are justifying Nassers attempts at ethnic cleansing. TO attack or punish collectively a whole ethnic population is never legitimate. Just as anti-arab/muslim racism in the US is not made more legitimate by what happened on september the 11th, the Israeli invasion of Sinai does not legitimise the disgusting way in whcih Nasser treated his Jeiwhs population.

Jews may have suffered violence from the native popopulation, yet if nasser claimed to be an egalitarian and an anti racist it wa his responsiblity to defend whatever ethnic minority populatiuon came under attack. If the violence had got too bad jews could have easily left of their own accord.

I understand that anti-jewish feeling may have been an understandable emotiuonal raction amongst ordinary people, but political leaders have to take more responsibility than that/.

[Blasphemy]

you're absolutely right, umoja. just like hitler sent the jews to the ghettos in order to protect them from anti semitic germans. he deserves a place in heaven...

[Umoja]

I wouldn't look at it the way you guys are looking at it. I see it more as an Andrew Jackson way of deporting Indians through the trail of tears. Yeah, it sucked, but I don't think it was ethnic cleansing, especially because he sent them out of the country.

I don't want to be deported though, so it's not right and I'm arguing a topic that I am obviously wrong on. So please forgive my poor arguing skills.

[ratm545]

there's no way it could or would work. would uniting the whole world who are having problems work? no. same for this situation. no questions