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Organic Revolution
20th August 2005, 20:57
Security Culture

The first step in recognizing security risks in a community is working towards creating a security culture. Below we have compiled some relevant materials and links that should be used in conducting security workshops and educating activists that you work with. As our direct action movement becomes more effective, government harassment will only increase. To minimize the destructiveness of this government harassment, it is imperative that we create a "security culture" within our movement. Violations of security culture include behavior is inappropriate because it intensifies government harassment, jeopardizes the freedom of other activists, and destroys the trust within the movement.
Security Culture: What is it, Why we need it and How to Implement it...

Luddites; liberationists; abolitionists; union organizers; revolutionaries... From large uprisings challenging the entire political structure, to isolated environmental and social struggles, people have constanly worked to create a better world. To government the response has always been to jail activists and revolutionaries using the courts and the police forces at hand.

As direct action movements become more effective, government surveillance and harassment will increase. To minimize the destructiveness of this political repression, it is imperative that we create a security culture within our movement.

This pamphlet is essential reading for anyone who is associated with groups that advocate and/or utilize sabotage, theft, arson and more militant tactics. The advice herein also applies to anyone who is associated with groups that practice civil disobedience, especially since membership often overlaps and gossip travels freely between groups.

Even if you have never picked up a monkeywrench or been arrested, even if you think you have nothing to hide, these guidelines will enhance your personal safety as well as the movement¹s overall effectiveness. Surveillance has been set up on all sections of political movements in the past. Governments in the western industrialized world have targeted groups that have advocated sabotage and groups that have not, movements that have been militant and movements that have been markedly pacificst. The government¹s security machinery serves political and economic objectives, and there are over 250 political prisoners in Canada and the US that can testify to this from firsthand experience. By adoption a security culture, we can defeat various counterintelligence operations that would otherwise disrupt both mainstream organizing and underground resistance.

SO WHAT IS A SECURITY CULTURE?

It¹s a culture where the people know their rights and, more importantly, assert them. Those who belong to a security culture also know what behaviour compromises security and they are quick to educate those people who, out of ignorance, forgetfulness, or personal weakness, partake in insecure behaviour. This security consciousness becomes a culture when the group as a whole makes security violations socially and morally unacceptable in the group.

WHAT NOT TO SAY

To begin with, there are certain things that are inappropriate to discuss.

These things include:

-Your involvement or someone else¹s involvement with an undergound group
-Someone else¹s desire to get involved with such a group
-Asking others if they are a member of an underground group
-Your participation or someone else¹s participating in any action that was illegal
-Someone else¹s advocacy for such actions
-Your plans or someone else¹s plans for a future action

Can you see a pattern? What all of these are stating is this: it is wrong to speak about a specific individual's involvement (past, present or future) with illegal activities. These are unacceptable topics of discussion regardless of whether it is rumor, speculation or personal knowledge. Please note: no one is claiming it is wrong to speak about direct action in general terms. It is perfectly legal, secure and desirable that people speak out in support of mokeywrenching and all forms of resistance. The danger lies in linking individual activists to specific actions or groups.

THREE EXCEPTIONS

There are only three times that it is acceptable to speak about this information. The first situation would be if you were planning an action with other members of your small group (your ³cell² or ³affinity group²). However, you would never discuss these things over the Internet (email), phone line, through the mail, or in an activist's home or car, as these places and forms of communication are frequently monitored. The only people who should hear this discussion would include those who are actively partaking in the action. Anyone who is not involved does not need to know and, therefore, should not know.

The second exception occures after an activists has been arrested and brought to trial. If she is found guilty, this activist can freely speak of the actions for which she was convicted. However, she must never give information that would help the authorities determine who else participated in illegal activities.

The third exception is for anonymous letters and interviews with the media. This must be done very carefully and without compromising security. Advice on secure communication techniques can be found in other publications.

Those are the only situations when it is appropriate to speak about your own or someone else's involvement or intent to commit illegal direct action.

SECURITY MEASURES

Veteran activists only allow a select few to know about their involvement with direct action groups. And those few consist of the cell members who they do the actions with AND NO ONE ELSE!

The reason for these security precautions is quite obvious: if people don't know anything, they can't talk about it. It also means that only the people who know the secret can also face jail time if the secret gets out. But when activists who do not share the same serious consequences knows who did an illegal direct action, they are far more likely to talk after being harassed and intimidated by the authorities, because they are not the ones who will go to jail. Even those people who are trustworthy can often be tricked by the authorities into revealing damaging and incriminating information. So it is safest for all cell members to keep their involvement in the group amongst themselves. The fewer people who know, the less evidence there is to bust them.

SECURITY VIOLATING BEHAVIOURS

In an attempts to impress others, activists may behave in ways that compromise security. Some people do this frequently - they are habitually gossiping and bragging. Some activists say inappropriate things only when they consume alcohol. Many activists make occasional breeches of security because there was a momentary temptation to say something or hint at something that shouldn¹t have been said or implied. In most every situation, the desire to be accepted is the root cause.
Those people who tend to be the greatest security risks are those activists who have low self-esteem and strongly desire the approval of their peers. Certainly it is natural to seek friendship and recognition for our efforts, but it is imperative that we keep these selfish desires in-check so we do not jeopardize the safety of other activists or ourselves. People who place their desire for friendship over the importance of the cause can do serious damage to our security.

The following are examples of security-violating behaviours:

Lying: To impress others, liars claim to have done illegal actions. Such lies not only compromise the person's security--as cops will not take what is said as a lie--but also hinders movement solidarity and trust.

Gossiping: Some weak characters think they can winare privy to special information. These gossips will tell others about who did what action or, if they don't know who did it, guess at who they think did what actions or just spread rumors about who did it. This sort of talk is very damaging. People need to remember that rumors are all that are needed to instigate a grand jury.

Bragging: Some people who partake in illegal direct action might be tempted to brag about it to their friends. If someone did such a thing, it would not only jeopardize the bragger's security, but also that of the other people involved with the action (as they may be suspected by association), as well as the people who he told (they can become accessories after the fact). An activist who brags also sets a horrible example to other activists.

Indirect-Bragging: Indirect-braggers are people who make a big production on how they want to remain anonymous, avoid protests, and stay "underground." They might not come out and say that they do illegal direct action, but they make sure everyone within ear-shot knows they are up to something. They are no better than braggers, but they try to be more sophisticated about it by pretending to maintain "security." However, if they were serious about security, they would just make up a good excuse as to why they are not as active, or why they can't make it to the protest (that kind of lying is acceptable).

EDUCATE TO LIBERATE

With what we now know about security, it is easy to spot those activists who compromise our movement¹s security. So what do we do with people who exhibit these behaviours? Do we excommunicate them from our movement? Actually, no--at least, not for a first offense.

The unfortunate truth is there are numerous security-ignorant people in the movement and others who have possibly been raised in a "scene" that thrives on bragging and gossiping. It doesn't mean these people are bad, but it does mean they need to be educated. Even seasoned activists can make mistakes when there is a general lack of security consciousness inour gruops. And that¹s where those of you who are reading this can help. We must NEVER let a breach in security occur without acting to correct it. If an acquaintance of yours is bragging about doing an action or spreading security-compromising gossip, it is your responsibility to explain to her or him why that sort of talk violates security and is inappropriate.

You should strive to educate this person in a manner that encourages him to listen and to change his behaviour. It should be done without damaging his pride. You should be humble and sincerely interested in helping him to become a better person and a more effective activists. Do not maintain a "holier than-thou" attitude. This attitude will inevitably raise his defenses and prevent him from absorbing or using any of the advice you offer. Remember, the goal of educating people is to change their behavior, not boost your ego by showing them how much more security-conscious you are.

If possible the educational session be done in private, so the person does not have to contend with the humiliation of a public reprimand. The educational reprimand should also be done as soon as possible after the mistake to increase its effectiveness.

If each of us takes on the responsibility of educating those who slip up, we can dramatically improve movement security. Once people recognize lying, gossiping, bragging, and indirect-bragging as the damaging character-flaws that they are, they will soon end. When we develop a culture where all breaches of security result in an immediate reprimand, all sincere activists will quickly get with the program.

DEALING WITH CHRONIC SECURITY PROBLEMS

So what do we do with activists who repeatedly violate security precautions even after multiple educational sessions? It's unfortunate, but the best thing to do with these people is cut them loose and kick them out of our meetings, basecamps and organizations. With law enforcement budgets on the increase and with courts handing down long sentences for political ³crimes², the stakes are too high to allow chronic security-offenders to work among us.

Organic Revolution
29th August 2005, 03:22
BUMP!

Insomniac
4th September 2005, 02:00
Thanks for that one!

You have good DIY posts, this one and the one on homesteading.

These security measures should be used by all committed revolutionaries.

Raisa
17th September 2005, 13:22
I call it "dont make an ass of yourself, and dont repeat shit people say or do cuase they can do it themselves"
THis keeps you out of alot of trouble in life.

bezdomni
21st September 2005, 20:04
How do you join an underground group if nobody is allowed to talk about it or openly take interest in it?

Do the states even really have an underground? I can't see why one would be too terribly necessary.

violencia.Proletariat
21st September 2005, 21:08
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 03:35 PM
How do you join an underground group if nobody is allowed to talk about it or openly take interest in it?

Do the states even really have an underground? I can't see why one would be too terribly necessary.
im guessing you'd either have to be there from the beggining or are found to be trusted and secure before someone whos in it decides to tell you.

Organic Revolution
21st September 2005, 22:47
you have to be found to join. it may seem like the us doesnt have an underground cause its UNDERGROUND

subcal
19th July 2006, 12:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 05:05 PM
How do you join an underground group if nobody is allowed to talk about it or openly take interest in it?

Do the states even really have an underground? I can't see why one would be too terribly necessary.
thats the beauty of a cellular network., You are forced to be there from conception or have a member of one of those groups pick you up along the way once they have known you long enough.

Its impossible for everyone of us to have tight arse monitoring going on so unless 50% of the movement in the gov they have fuck all chance at getting recruited.

Earth First!ers know how this one works and exploit it to the end. Look at the monkeywrenching hay day and you can see how the government has troubles finding us, tracking us and even harder penetrating our ranks.

ahab
29th July 2006, 17:56
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 09:47 AM
Earth First!ers know how this one works and exploit it to the end. Look at the monkeywrenching hay day and you can see how the government has troubles finding us, tracking us and even harder penetrating our ranks.
did you not just read that your not supposed to talk about your shit?

anyway that was quite informative, security and secracy is a strong defense against the gov.

Enragé
29th July 2006, 18:50
Originally posted by Organic [email protected] 21 2005, 07:48 PM
you have to be found to join. it may seem like the us doesnt have an underground cause its UNDERGROUND
but what good would/does it do?

the publicness (or whatever) of political actions are extremely important because most we are able to do in this point in time are more or less symbolic actions...and no one knows if you go about it all secret-ish.

An archist
29th July 2006, 19:43
that's why you have to let people know, without revealing your identity

Enragé
30th July 2006, 02:23
Originally posted by An [email protected] 29 2006, 04:44 PM
that's why you have to let people know, without revealing your identity
isnt the whole idea that you get other people involved in the movement?

How can you do that if you're all working in secret and therefore nobody can join?

The more radical squatter-based (RARA etc) groups in the 80's over here (netherlands) eventually fell apart because of this.

Nothing Human Is Alien
30th July 2006, 04:08
There used to be alot of debate about this. Huey Newton talked about the need to work publicly whenever possible, before going undergroun (if it comes to that), to establish ties with fellow workers, to let people know what you're about, etc. If you start out underground -- seperated from your fellow workers, it's very unlikely you'll ever establish ties of solidarity and support with them.

Sadena Meti
30th July 2006, 05:26
Going back a bit earlier than Huey Newton, to the Russian Revolution:

"The conspiracy is always subordinate to the mass action."


However, the conspiracy is often necessary. Particularly when there is no chance of mass action, like in the USA, where 99% of the population acquiesces.

black magick hustla
30th July 2006, 05:49
underground organizations are meant to become something similar as the weathermen.

that is, completely alienated from the population.

SPK
30th July 2006, 19:07
Originally posted by clownpenisanarchy+Sep 21 2005, 12:05 PM--> (clownpenisanarchy @ Sep 21 2005, 12:05 PM)Do the states even really have an underground? [/b]


Organic [email protected] 21 2005, 02:48 PM
you have to be found to join. it may seem like the us doesnt have an underground cause its UNDERGROUND

Let's do a reality check.

From 1965-1970, the new left in the u.s. committed thousands of acts of political violence and sabotage, in opposition to the continuing u.s. intervention in Vietnam. In 1969, there were more than 500 bombing attempts by progressive forces; in 1970, there were more than 300 such attempts (I'm getting these numbers from Dan Berger's new history of the Weatherman, Outlaws of America).

Some of the actions in the late sixties / early seventies were carried out by anonymous affinity groups. Some were carried out by more structured organizations: the Weather Underground, the New Years Gang, the George Jackson Brigade, the Symbionese Liberation Army, etc. Most of them issued a public statement explaining the politics and rationale of the action. These sometimes got coverage in the mass media, but more often got coverage in the underground press (newspapers, journals, and the like). Even if they didn't, the actions were inherently a part of the public sphere: people would hear a boom, see a plume of smoke, sirens would wail, and the next day you noticed that the ROTC building on your local campus had been burnt to a cinder. :) That's not the kind of thing you can hide from people. :lol:

The reality of the anti-imperialist rebellion in the u.s. was inescapable and in your face every day. It could not be disguised or hidden or covered-up or swept under the rug.

Does the u.s. have an underground today, as Organic Revolution suggests? Hell, no. Serious discussion, much less practice, of armed struggle is virtually nonexistent in this country. I would rarely expect those kind of actions to be reported in the state-run media here, like the Fox network. But there is nothing even in the independent or other sympathetic media. No booms, no columns of smoke, no sirens, no corporate war-profiteers' offices burnt to a crisp. Nothing. The majority of people in the u.s. want to drift through their everyday lives without worrying about the mass slaughter of Iraqis, Afghans, Palestinians, and Lebanese by u.s. and allied forces, and today they can do just that -- nothing the left does at this point interrupts their bliss.

Now what kind of putative "underground" is this, when we can perceive absolutely no factual, empirical, concrete, material evidence for its existence in the real world? <_<

Sadena Meti
30th July 2006, 19:23
An accurate assessment. There are occasional token efforts, issue specific actions. Armchair revolutionaries are for the most part (just like the rest of the populous) pacified with bread and circuses. In a way, forums like this are part of it. Given an outlet to express their views, they can be radicals from they keyboard. Extreme actions are embodied by occasionally going to a protest and shouting "fascist pig&#33;"

So from one point of view, we were better off when we were isolated and demonized. You had to be motivated to reach out. Now, the unmotivated reach out via the internet. Case in point, it&#39;s 11:30 and I&#39;m still in my sleep pants.

Now spin also has a fair bit to do with the problem of inaction. The Vietnam War unified a myriad of radical and revolutionary factions. Critical mass. Now everyone goes off in their own way, encouraged by each-other and the mass media to be "individuals". End up with 100,000 groups, each with a membership of 3. While we here could rage and froth about the evils of the modern world, we lack a clear, unifying evil to rail against, like the Vietnam War. Modern evils, thanks to spin and PR, are as oppressive, but intangible. Rage against the machine? Try rage against cotton candy.

To put it in another, less rambling way, things have to get worse before enough people are motivated to act, and critical mass is achieved. Get a thousand activists together, and maybe you&#39;ll get lucky, and the ten people among them truly ready to act will meet each-other. Not bloody likely though.

subcal
31st July 2006, 09:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 02:57 PM

did you not just read that your not supposed to talk about your shit?

The point is a non-membership orginisation like EARTH FIRST&#33; can be the uniting medium for activists. All that is needed at activities is to be clean, and operators get away and such anonymous activities are naturally attributed to whichever group advocates thier followers do such.

It also makes a nice spin to say from orginisational level that there is no clean evidence to show that it isn&#39;t an insurance job as no members have taken credit for such actions.

I think it was all summed up in "Live wild or die"

Enragé
1st August 2006, 00:40
Originally posted by SPK+Jul 30 2006, 04:08 PM--> (SPK &#064; Jul 30 2006, 04:08 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 12:05 PM
Do the states even really have an underground?


Organic [email protected] 21 2005, 02:48 PM
you have to be found to join. it may seem like the us doesnt have an underground cause its UNDERGROUND

Let&#39;s do a reality check.

From 1965-1970, the new left in the u.s. committed thousands of acts of political violence and sabotage, in opposition to the continuing u.s. intervention in Vietnam. In 1969, there were more than 500 bombing attempts by progressive forces; in 1970, there were more than 300 such attempts (I&#39;m getting these numbers from Dan Berger&#39;s new history of the Weatherman, Outlaws of America).

Some of the actions in the late sixties / early seventies were carried out by anonymous affinity groups. Some were carried out by more structured organizations: the Weather Underground, the New Years Gang, the George Jackson Brigade, the Symbionese Liberation Army, etc. Most of them issued a public statement explaining the politics and rationale of the action. These sometimes got coverage in the mass media, but more often got coverage in the underground press (newspapers, journals, and the like). Even if they didn&#39;t, the actions were inherently a part of the public sphere: people would hear a boom, see a plume of smoke, sirens would wail, and the next day you noticed that the ROTC building on your local campus had been burnt to a cinder. :) That&#39;s not the kind of thing you can hide from people. :lol:

The reality of the anti-imperialist rebellion in the u.s. was inescapable and in your face every day. It could not be disguised or hidden or covered-up or swept under the rug.

Does the u.s. have an underground today, as Organic Revolution suggests? Hell, no. Serious discussion, much less practice, of armed struggle is virtually nonexistent in this country. I would rarely expect those kind of actions to be reported in the state-run media here, like the Fox network. But there is nothing even in the independent or other sympathetic media. No booms, no columns of smoke, no sirens, no corporate war-profiteers&#39; offices burnt to a crisp. Nothing. The majority of people in the u.s. want to drift through their everyday lives without worrying about the mass slaughter of Iraqis, Afghans, Palestinians, and Lebanese by u.s. and allied forces, and today they can do just that -- nothing the left does at this point interrupts their bliss.

Now what kind of putative "underground" is this, when we can perceive absolutely no factual, empirical, concrete, material evidence for its existence in the real world? <_< [/b]
i think the moral of the story is that these kind of isolated actions accomplish NOTHING unless it truly is supported by a wide, in society entrenched, revolutionary movement. Look im all for these kind of actions, symbolic, its good propaganda, but..on itself it accomplishes nothing, there has to be more.

Though those years in the US certainly were inspiring, it was mosly college kids having some fun.
If you dont believe this
where have 90% of those activists gone?&#33; They are ruling the country now&#33; :lol:


its actually pretty sad...

Red Heretic
2nd August 2006, 23:43
I&#39;d also like to note that this sort of thing was one major reason for Weather Underground getting alienated from the masses, and ultimately defeated.

Nothing Human Is Alien
3rd August 2006, 01:36
They didn&#39;t get defeated. Half gave up, and half moved on (like Gilbert, who&#39;s still in jail for shit he did after the WU).

Enragé
3rd August 2006, 03:17
Originally posted by Lennie [email protected] 2 2006, 10:37 PM
They didn&#39;t get defeated. Half gave up, and half moved on (like Gilbert, who&#39;s still in jail for shit he did after the WU).
why do you think they gave up?

desillusionment

why were they desillusioned?

because the they were isolated, a fringe group.

socialistfuture
21st June 2007, 13:20
sum of them never gave up and never will - why &#39;did they give up&#39;? coz the system was bigger than them - had more numbers and had more arms.

the ALF can&#39;t do shit on its own - with support from mainstream animal right groups it can.

same with the anti war movement - with a dedicated hardcore going in and attacking things like war jets and military Infrastructure and anti bases campaigns going on along with all the other anti war activities you can stop a war. it takes numbers, passion and strategy.

security culture is very important when taking on the state or big corporations (as the &#39;green scare&#39; shows. it is important for small things like stenciling late at night to larger things like an action or large demo with direct actions planned or events like anti G8 summits.

The state uses infiltrators and spies, get used to it and wise up.
good luck :ph34r: and :P

Chicano Shamrock
26th June 2007, 23:08
I don&#39;t really know what to think of the security culture. What do you think about this take on it?
http://www.audioanarchy.org/submission/10-...ity_Culture.mp3 (http://www.audioanarchy.org/submission/10-Security_Culture.mp3)

Palmares
27th June 2007, 12:08
Once again, and unsurprisingly [no offence] the socialists have missed the point of some types of direct action.

Its not really trying to be revolutionary. Its simply trying to directly interfere with something that is the main point of performing an action that is against the future we hope for - to make this less vague, an example would be, a corporation is destroying a forest, a old rare forest with diverse flora and fauna - this cannot be replaced - and since current generalised struggles often make little head way in maintaining this forests, some people view it as neccessary in these desperate times to directly challenge their destruction - of course they dont think its saved forever, capitalism still exists, but they try to save it now so it will still be here when the revolution come and wins.

The working struggle isnt everything, but indeed, it is neccessary for revolution. But some others things are also neccessary for the sake of the planet - and thus ourselves.

NorthStarRepublicML
27th June 2007, 19:46
the communist party of South Africa put on this phamphlet on secret work in the 1980&#39;s, it is definatly worth reading over, every detailed and complete:

http://www.marxists.org/history/internatio...secret-work.htm (http://www.marxists.org/history/international/comintern/sections/sacp/1980/secret-work.htm)

RedDawn
6th March 2008, 05:57
1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB. 2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.

shuuk
23rd June 2008, 00:24
I have some expirence with this "securtiy culture" and at the begining of 1 of my former movements i was stupid and told people (while under the influance) I thought i could trust them but they did the same thing as me, and it ended up comeing back and bitteing me in the ass!

2 short peaces of advice

1 DONT SNITCH ( This is on yourself and others! )

2 Stop others from snitching ( If at all possible )

DIzzIE
24th June 2008, 03:34
I have some expirence with this "securtiy culture" and at the begining of 1 of my former movements i was stupid and told people (while under the influance) I thought i could trust them but they did the same thing as me, and it ended up comeing back and bitteing me in the ass!

2 short peaces of advice

1 DONT SNITCH ( This is on yourself and others! )

2 Stop others from snitching ( If at all possible )

Funny that the obvious third piece of advice is missing, which this anecdote illustrates fucking swimmingly:

3 Don't do drugs if you're unable to control yourself while "under the influence".

chimx
10th August 2008, 09:36
I hate security culture. People obsess over it like they do conspiracy theories, believing every phone they own is tapped, or every person interested in getting involved with their groups campaigns is a government infiltrator. It's stupid.

nuisance
10th August 2008, 17:06
I hate security culture. People obsess over it like they do conspiracy theories, believing every phone they own is tapped, or every person interested in getting involved with their groups campaigns is a government infiltrator. It's stupid.
Now that is a pretty stupid thing to say and I'm sure you don't actually mean it. After all why would a revoluntionary lefty 'hate' something that is used to preserve direct action? Not using it is foolish.
Security culture should be common sense, not parinoia or subjecting yourself to isolation. Simply don't talk about it to new people or anyone outside of the group.

DIzzIE
10th August 2008, 18:48
I hate security culture. People obsess over it like they do conspiracy theories, believing every phone they own is tapped, or every person interested in getting involved with their groups campaigns is a government infiltrator. It's stupid.

That's the spirit! Security Culture makes people critical and discerning in their operations and that makes it stupid!

Except that all phones are, quite literally, being tapped. Now, this isn't some pulp noir novel or a propaganda piece for the evening news, so we're not talking about any stereotypic microchip implants the media trains you to solely associate with 'bugs' or even "court ordered" phone taps and 'mysterious clicking' or whatever other nonsense people generally think of when talking about 'taps' (again, while these are red herrings propagated by the mass media, don't overlook the obvious either).

No, we're talking about international satellite surveillance systems (http://anonym.to/?http://www.fas.org/irp/program/process/rapport_echelon_en.pdf), we're talking about telecoms feeding all ISP/telecom traffic (http://anonym.to/?http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/06/secret-surveillance-evidence-unsealed-t-spying-case) to your favourite alphabet soup agency of choice, we're talking about the ability of the pigs to remotely transform cellphones into so-called roving bugs (http://anonym.to/?http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3522137.stm). And speaking of bugs, we're also talking about hybrid cyborg insect 'bugs' (http://anonym.to/?http://www.darpa.mil/mto/programs/himems/) genetically coupled with audio/video transmitters (http://anonym.to/?http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2008/05/376055.shtml) (see that fly buzzing around your window? I'd swat that fucker if I were you). These are not paranoid, conspiratorial flights of fancy, these are documented occurrences that are going on 24/7.

To maintain the illusion that any and all of your phone conversations (not to mention all other forms of conversation) are not stored in multiple international databases is, at this point, to remain willfully ignorant. Now, to be sure, that is certainly your mistake to make, but I sure hope that your naivete doesn't endanger anyone on the other end of the line, let alone anyone whom you may be talking about on an unencrypted channel. By ignoring security culture you are putting not only yourself, but anyone you mention, at risk.

Let's say Alice and Bob are planning a get-together at such-and-such to do this-and-that. Alice and Bob use encrypted channels to setup all aspects of the operation. Now let's say Charlie is talking on an unencrypted channel to Dave, both being friends of Alice:

'Hey, have you heard from Alice lately? I haven't talked to her in weeks...'
'Nah, she's been real busy doing some stuff with Bob in Nova Scotia.'
'Oh, whatever, then guess I'll see her later.'

Suddenly Eve, who has tried to listen in on Alice (but has been unsuccessful because Alice encrypts all of her conversations) knows that Alice is in Nova Scotia planning a project with Bob. She has gleaned this information precisely because Charlie, thinking that 'security culture is stupid', has unwittingly taken on the role of an informant.

It is standard, operative common sense to presume that all communications channels are being monitored (because as pointed out earlier, they are).

Never talk about others.

Never privately communicate without employing encryption, even if discussing things you don't think warrant encryption.

There is no such thing as innocuous data.

freakazoid
11th August 2008, 07:22
I hate security culture. People obsess over it like they do conspiracy theories, believing every phone they own is tapped, or every person interested in getting involved with their groups campaigns is a government infiltrator. It's stupid.

What? I never thought I would here this from you. I'm sure you have heard of COINTELPRO from way back when. The .gov isn't afraid to use things like that. Also there is the carnivore and the [/URL]DragonWare Suite. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(FBI (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DragonWare_Suite&action=edit&redlink=1))

RHIZOMES
11th August 2008, 11:03
I hate security culture. People obsess over it like they do conspiracy theories, believing every phone they own is tapped, or every person interested in getting involved with their groups campaigns is a government infiltrator. It's stupid.

I assume the meeting place for my party is tapped, but that's about it.

I only really get concerned with people interested in being involved if they ask lots of fishy questions.

Bitter Ashes
7th May 2010, 13:34
The OP has been moved to
http://www.revleft.com/vb/security-culture-information-t100034/index.html
as per:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/future-iy-finaling-t134168/index.html
Also de-stickying.