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Organic Revolution
20th August 2005, 15:48
disabling gas masks.

Saline solution, and salt. The ions in the salt will saturate and deactivate the charcoal. just put the mix in a reverse bong or somthing like that, and blow it at the cops and walla they will taste there own gas.

bed_of_nails
23rd August 2005, 01:04
Now if I were to leave this solution in a jug in my car (extreme heat), would it still work? (Assuming I refilled it and changed it out once every two weeks or so).

Organic Revolution
23rd August 2005, 02:28
sorry, but i have never experimented with it like that, if you would like me to, i will.

bed_of_nails
23rd August 2005, 04:42
Do you have a gas mask to test it on? :D

I am wondering this because I think it would be useful to have an empty water jug full of this and maybe a PVC Pipe to blow it out of. I could take a mouthfull of the solution, and blow it out the tube.

Organic Revolution
23rd August 2005, 04:43
yes i have a real gas mask to test it on.

bed_of_nails
23rd August 2005, 05:43
Dont test it, I was joking. A real gas mask has far better uses than testing my ideas with the saline solution and salt.

Organic Revolution
23rd August 2005, 19:36
its worked at protests, from what i hear

Seeker
26th August 2005, 16:50
How effective would water balloons full of the stuff be? Would a couple drops landing on the filter be enough, or would you need to hit them dead-on in the face?

If a few drops are all it takes, a 3-person slingshot team (two to hold the elastic bands, one to pull back the pouch) with a supply of saltwater balloons could act as artillery.

Organic Revolution
26th August 2005, 16:56
it would work wonderfully! just larger charges, assaulting an officer?

infernomunky
26th August 2005, 17:02
guys guys guys!.....
....have we all forgotton about or childhood fondness for water pistols and "super soakers" with 300 numbers following the word.....
......at a dollar store you can buy water guns of all colors and sizes.....
one thing i know about water solutions like this tho are that they will crust up as it evaporates around the edges of your container if its not sealed tight......so dont store them in the guns for a long time cuz they look like a tight seal but arnt......
....happy hunting.....

Enragé
26th August 2005, 18:49
Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 04:20 PM
guys guys guys!.....
....have we all forgotton about or childhood fondness for water pistols and "super soakers" with 300 numbers following the word.....
......at a dollar store you can buy water guns of all colors and sizes.....
one thing i know about water solutions like this tho are that they will crust up as it evaporates around the edges of your container if its not sealed tight......so dont store them in the guns for a long time cuz they look like a tight seal but arnt......
....happy hunting.....
just about to say that :D

bed_of_nails
26th August 2005, 23:18
Good idea.

Enragé
27th August 2005, 00:36
just imagine what kind of impact it would have if this would be a widely used tactic! The police would choke on their own gas! :D

symtoms_of_humanity
27th August 2005, 03:28
Feel dumb for asking but whats Saline, is it just water and salt?

novemba
27th August 2005, 04:32
I vaguely remember about hearing in WWII(i think) something about gas masks being submerged in saltwater at d-day and malfunctioning later...I think....btw I stole a ventilator from *lowes, will that block out tear gas or anything else at protests?

Organic Revolution
27th August 2005, 04:38
it will, but not very long... what you want is an army issue canister... you can pick them up at army surplus stores.

novemba
27th August 2005, 06:11
how much do they run, sorry but i dont jack from army surplus stores im not trying to get shot....

Organic Revolution
27th August 2005, 06:26
i get mine for 3 dollars a peice.

Decolonize The Left
27th August 2005, 09:32
Is an army issue canister something that will block tear gas? Sorry, I got confused as to what you were replying to.

-- August

Enragé
27th August 2005, 12:33
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 02:46 AM
Feel dumb for asking but whats Saline, is it just water and salt?
:blink: good question actually...

:unsure:

Organic Revolution
27th August 2005, 13:58
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 02:50 AM
Is an army issue canister something that will block tear gas? Sorry, I got confused as to what you were replying to.

-- August
yes it is a filter with a very high charcol content.

Organic Revolution
27th August 2005, 13:59
Originally posted by NewKindOfSoldier+Aug 27 2005, 05:51 AM--> (NewKindOfSoldier @ Aug 27 2005, 05:51 AM)
[email protected] 27 2005, 02:46 AM
Feel dumb for asking but whats Saline, is it just water and salt?
:blink: good question actually...

:unsure: [/b]
yeah saline solution is just salt and water.

Enragé
27th August 2005, 14:04
does it matter how much salt you put into it? is it the more salt the more effective?

Organic Revolution
27th August 2005, 14:25
you should try and put more water than salt, so it can travel farther, and get into there canisters.

bed_of_nails
27th August 2005, 19:11
:lol: This is an interesting topic.

I am working on modifying the PVC Pipe instrument so the cap will screw off and help project the liquid in an arc.

Enragé
27th August 2005, 19:51
you should try and put more water than salt, so it can travel farther, and get into there canisters

i guess up untill the saturation point of salt in water will do :)


I am working on modifying the PVC Pipe instrument so the cap will screw off and help project the liquid in an arc

dude, use a super soaker :lol:

Organic Revolution
27th August 2005, 20:33
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 01:09 PM

you should try and put more water than salt, so it can travel farther, and get into there canisters

i guess up untill the saturation point of salt in water will do :)


I am working on modifying the PVC Pipe instrument so the cap will screw off and help project the liquid in an arc

dude, use a super soaker :lol:
its kinda hard to use a super soaker in a protest, unless you get the big one and they will stop you at a major protest.

Enragé
27th August 2005, 20:34
its kinda hard to use a super soaker in a protest

why?


they will stop you at a major protest.

err yeah and thats what teargas is for.

bed_of_nails
27th August 2005, 21:52
Well you will look like an idiot wandering around with a super soaker. An instrument is multi-purpose, already made for what I will need, and is capable of creating more of a spray than the super-soaker line.

Organic Revolution
27th August 2005, 21:55
and you can keep the solution in a nalgene, so it looks like water... ingenius BON! thank you!

Enragé
28th August 2005, 00:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 09:10 PM
Well you will look like an idiot wandering around with a super soaker. An instrument is multi-purpose, already made for what I will need, and is capable of creating more of a spray than the super-soaker line.
---emphasis added

yea ok if its most effective, ok, thats what its all about.

RASH chris
29th August 2005, 00:52
I bet a cop would get away with shooting you for pointing a super soaker at them. It wouldn't be justified, but I bet they'd get a way with it. Just something to think about. When you point something at a cop the whole situation changes.

Organic Revolution
29th August 2005, 03:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 06:10 PM
I bet a cop would get away with shooting you for pointing a super soaker at them. It wouldn't be justified, but I bet they'd get a way with it. Just something to think about. When you point something at a cop the whole situation changes.
no they would shoot you with live rounds... they dont ussually carry them to protests in america. you would get tagged with rubber bullets.

Fascist-Hunter
29th August 2005, 06:22
but even beeing hit by a rubber bullet can cause serious damage to your body...

don't think of these bullets that they are too soft

bed_of_nails
29th August 2005, 06:36
They can kill you actually.

Organic Revolution
29th August 2005, 16:24
when i got hit with a rubber bullet it broke my rib, the other one just gave me a HUGE welt.