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London Communist
18th August 2005, 22:40
Back in the mid 1980s, Soviet geologists were working on a mining project, the Kola mines, in Siberia.

After digging about 14.5 km into the Earth, their equipment showed that they had come across a huge cavern or underground cave.

They used drills to get down there, no miners went underground.

After sending in audio recorders down the shaft, they heard what appeared to be the voices of what their equipment picked up, thousands or tens of thousands of people screaming and shouting.

I have heard the recording myself, you can find it on the net.

From what I heard on the recording, you CAN hear thousands of people screaming, mainly women. You can also hear what I can best describe as a very loud voice that shouts over the screams. I cannot reconise the language of the voice, but it appears to be everywhere rather than coming from a particular point, like the sounds of the screams. It also sounds like the loud voice is amplified, like it's spoken through a megaphone or something.

Anyways, I have no idea what it is/was.

Any scientific explination as to how this happened?

Anyone on RL ever hear of this story???

ÑóẊîöʼn
18th August 2005, 22:48
Sounds very wierd... Have you got any sort of substantiation beyond this topic?

EDIT: Snopes turned this up:The Well to Hell. (http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.htm)

Urban Myth.

Bolshevist
18th August 2005, 22:48
I like the American sect idea that earth is hell to another planet...

London Communist
18th August 2005, 22:54
If anyone knows how to put recordings on your posts and stuff like that, then post the audio of this so you can listen to it.

The one I listeded to had some guy talking for about 2 mins and then 1 min of the recording from under the USSR.

Xvall
18th August 2005, 23:32
I saw this shit on "Chick Publications". It's utter bullshit. Even most religious people understand that hell is supposed to be another plane of existence. I'm not sure what breed of dumbass actually believe hell is physically beneath the earth's crust.

Elect Marx
18th August 2005, 23:37
Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 18 2005, 04:50 PM
I saw this shit on "Chick Publications". It's utter bullshit. Even most religious people understand that hell is supposed to be another plane of existence. I'm not sure what breed of dumbass actually believe hell is physically beneath the earth's crust.
Believers of Greek mythology?

London Communist
18th August 2005, 23:38
I saw this shit on "Chick Publications". It's utter bullshit. Even most religious people understand that hell is supposed to be another plane of existence. I'm not sure what breed of dumbass actually believe hell is physically beneath the earth's crust.

I personally don't believe in this.

Im betting on the recordings being some type of activity within the earth, faultlines or something.

On the point of were Hell would be, I remeber Islam as saying that ONLY Heaven is on another plain of existence but Hell was within reach of mortals.

But I was born Catholic and did my Sunday school etc... For Christians Hell is somewhere else, not to be visited by the living.

Xvall
18th August 2005, 23:47
Percicely.

Either way, regardless, there isn't any scientific/rational reason to believe that "hell" exists - let alone is within the reach of human beings.

London Communist
18th August 2005, 23:51
However, if Hell is simply the name we give to a state of constant suffering, then most parts of this world ARE hell.

Xvall
18th August 2005, 23:58
Yeah. Generally when religious people talk about hell, though, they imply that you're being sodomized by demons in a lake of fire.

Camarada
19th August 2005, 00:04
this is probably just a natural occurrence that "sounds " like Hell.

I've heard recordings of natural signals off of Saturn that sound like extraterrestrial signals.

Camarada
19th August 2005, 00:06
But anyway, Hell and Heaven are ancient pagan concepts that were borrowed by the Christians. I've read somewhere that the early Christians actually believed in reincarnation, and that when Christianity became the official religion of Rome, the Romans added Hell and Heaven , which were taken from Elysium and Hades, the pagan "Heaven" and "Hell"

Sihvyl
19th August 2005, 00:57
I've heard recordings of natural signals off of Saturn that sound like extraterrestrial signals.

Yeah, I heard the Saturn sounds just the other day too. It was pretty erie sounding. Anyone have luck at finding the sound file of this "Hell" online?

Clarksist
19th August 2005, 03:21
However, if Hell is simply the name we give to a state of constant suffering, then most parts of this world ARE hell.


Say like the USSR in the mid 1980's? :P

Utter bullshit. I heard the recordings. It sounds to echoed and blurred to be definatively... anything.

Xvall
19th August 2005, 06:10
I heard the Saturn stuff too. It's addictive.

New Tolerance
19th August 2005, 22:19
The story is a complete fabrication, read:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/d/drilltohellfacts.htm

the guy who made the story up actually admitted to making it up, it turns out that a bunch of religious publications simply publish stories without ever investigating them (in other words, they will publish any rumors that will give them higher sells).

Djehuti
19th August 2005, 22:32
Damn! I though they had discovered the dwarven race (they have +1 constitution).

Seeker
19th August 2005, 23:33
I think I've seen this as a movie set in Antartica, and in the X-Files.


If all the rumors were true, we'd have super-viruses, portals to hell, and aliens flapping about all over the place. After earthquakes, hurricanes, volcano erruptions, melting polar icecubes, exploring for oil or mining for minerals . . .

Xvall
19th August 2005, 23:55
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 09:50 PM
Damn! I though they had discovered the dwarven race (they have +1 constitution).
Stupid bastard, It's +2. OMG.


DWARVES


+2 Constitution, –2 Charisma.

Medium: As Medium creatures, dwarves have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.

Dwarf base land speed is 20 feet. However, dwarves can move at this speed even when wearing medium or heavy armor or when carrying a medium or heavy load (unlike other creatures, whose speed is reduced in such situations).

Darkvision: Dwarves can see in the dark up to 60 feet. Darkvision is black and white only, but it is otherwise like normal sight, and dwarves can function just fine with no light at all.

Stonecunning: This ability grants a dwarf a +2 racial bonus on Search checks to notice unusual stonework, such as sliding walls, stonework traps, new construction (even when built to match the old), unsafe stone surfaces, shaky stone ceilings, and the like. Something that isn’t stone but that is disguised as stone also counts as unusual stonework. A dwarf who merely comes within 10 feet of unusual stonework can make a Search check as if he were actively searching, and a dwarf can use the Search skill to find stonework traps as a rogue can. A dwarf can also intuit depth, sensing his approximate depth underground as naturally as a human can sense which way is up.

Weapon Familiarity: Dwarves may treat dwarven waraxes and dwarven urgroshes as martial weapons, rather than exotic weapons.

Stability: A dwarf gains a +4 bonus on ability checks made to resist being bull rushed or tripped when standing on the ground (but not when climbing, flying, riding, or otherwise not standing firmly on the ground).

+2 racial bonus on saving throws against poison.

+2 racial bonus on saving throws against spells and spell-like effects.

+1 racial bonus on attack rolls against orcs and goblinoids.

+4 dodge bonus to Armor Class against monsters of the giant type. Any time a creature loses its Dexterity bonus (if any) to Armor Class, such as when it’s caught flat-footed, it loses its dodge bonus, too.

+2 racial bonus on Appraise checks that are related to stone or metal items.

+2 racial bonus on Craft checks that are related to stone or metal.

Automatic Languages: Common and Dwarven. Bonus Languages: Giant, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, Terran, and Undercommon.

Favored Class: Fighter. A multiclass dwarf ’s fighter class does not count when determining whether he takes an experience point penalty for multiclassing

http://srd.plush.org/races.html

Stupid.

Clarksist
20th August 2005, 05:49
the guy who made the story up actually admitted to making it up, it turns out that a bunch of religious publications simply publish stories without ever investigating them (in other words, they will publish any rumors that will give them higher sells).


Just look at the bible.

That is an examplary look at bullshit, they threw it on the wall... and it stuck! Since then, everyone related to the religion must spout bullshit of such high rate.

violencia.Proletariat
20th August 2005, 06:11
haha some girl in middle school tried to tell me this was real when i denounced christianity :lol:

Taiga
20th August 2005, 06:40
Can someone please post the link to this recording?

Taiga
20th August 2005, 11:37
From what I heard on the recording, you CAN hear thousands of people screaming, mainly women.

Yes, women are sinners. By nature. <_<

Forward Union
20th August 2005, 11:52
Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 18 2005, 11:16 PM
Yeah. Generally when religious people talk about hell, though, they imply that you&#39;re being sodomized by demons in a lake of fire.
Hot demons?

Djehuti
20th August 2005, 12:43
Originally posted by Drake Dracoli+Aug 20 2005, 12:13 AM--> (Drake Dracoli @ Aug 20 2005, 12:13 AM)
[email protected] 19 2005, 09:50 PM
Damn&#33; I though they had discovered the dwarven race (they have +1 constitution).
Stupid bastard, It&#39;s +2. OMG. [/b]
That depends on if God has applied the AD&D or D&D3 rules on earth. ;)
I am more used to AD&D (Baldur&#39;s Gate), but I do actually think that the +2 bonus is better, more difference then.

Sirion
20th August 2005, 14:04
Nice to see some other D&D geeks around here :D

Xvall
20th August 2005, 19:51
We&#39;ve entered a New Age, Djehuti. Abandon your ancient ways and join us. We can rule the material plane as DM and player&#33;

Donnie
20th August 2005, 23:24
It’s utter nonsense. The earth is made up of rock, more rock and then molten rock (I don&#39;t know the composition of the earth as I&#39;m no geologist.)

What they probably herd was some kind of sonic waves of some kind interfering with there sound equipment. Then when they played back the muffles on there tape they think there hearing screams when in fact it&#39;s probably just some sort of waves coming from the earth’s core or it could be tectonic activity that has produced small waves.

The brain is a complex thing, if people think they hear something they normally think they&#39;ve herd it.

You remember when you were a child and when you were in bed you thought a monster was in you&#39;re bedroom when in fact it was something falling off a shelf or etc. Or when you thought a monster was growling it was actually you dad snoring lol.
It&#39;s funny how when you were a child you&#39;re parents told you that there was no such things as monster but would gladly tell you that there is a god.

ÑóẊîöʼn
21st August 2005, 00:03
Please pay attention to edits people. The only true part of this urban myth is the fact that the soviets drilled a really deep hole.

Having said that, it really does get really hot down there. One day drilling techniques might be sophisticated enough so that geothermal power can be used anywhere on the Earth&#39;s surface.

Elect Marx
21st August 2005, 00:23
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 05:21 PM
Please pay attention to edits people. The only true part of this urban myth is the fact that the soviets drilled a really deep hole.
Yes; was that the 7 mile deep hole?


Having said that, it really does get really hot down there. One day drilling techniques might be sophisticated enough so that geothermal power can be used anywhere on the Earth&#39;s surface.

That would have it&#39;s benefits but just the other day I was watching a documentary on the geological composition of the Earth and the addressed the magnetic fields of the poles diminishing in strength. If these fields are below a critical level; radioactive partials will not be deflected and we could have some very rough times ahead.

Basically; the heat in the Earth, keeping the outer-core liquid somehow helps to generate these fields and if we accelerate the heat dissipation; we might be making the planet less hospitable to like.

ÑóẊîöʼn
21st August 2005, 00:54
Yes; was that the 7 mile deep hole?

Indeed, though it&#39;s not the deepest we&#39;ve been. If memory serves me correctly, a diamond mine in South Africa goes down 8 miles. Although I will need the height from sea levels of both sites to get a true indication of depth.


That would have it&#39;s benefits but just the other day I was watching a documentary on the geological composition of the Earth and the addressed the magnetic fields of the poles diminishing in strength.

That&#39;s because there&#39;s going to be a pole reversal soon (In geological terms) and we will all have to buy new compasses. It happened many times before.


If these fields are below a critical level; radioactive partials will not be deflected and we could have some very rough times ahead.

Unlikely, since most harmful radiation is absorbed the atmosphere in any case.


Basically; the heat in the Earth, keeping the outer-core liquid somehow helps to generate these fields and if we accelerate the heat dissipation; we might be making the planet less hospitable to like.

Unless we start stripping the mantle off the earth, this won&#39;t happen. The heat in the Earth is generated due to compression. (It&#39;s how a diesel engine works) If compression didn&#39;t generate heat, then the Earth would be a cold stone all the way through, as it is with very small bodies like the Moon.

New Tolerance
23rd August 2005, 16:24
hehe to farther make fun of the headline:

Soviet Geologists dig into HELL&#33;&#33;:

They dug a hole so deep that they came out from the other side of the planet in Texas...

Elect Marx
23rd August 2005, 20:09
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 06:12 PM

That would have it&#39;s benefits but just the other day I was watching a documentary on the geological composition of the Earth and the addressed the magnetic fields of the poles diminishing in strength.

That&#39;s because there&#39;s going to be a pole reversal soon (In geological terms) and we will all have to buy new compasses. It happened many times before.
Yes; reversal too but the documentary said there was an overall lessening of the field over the last few hundred years too.

Couldn&#39;t compasses be adjusted or is that just too much of a shift?



If these fields are below a critical level; radioactive partials will not be deflected and we could have some very rough times ahead.

Unlikely, since most harmful radiation is absorbed the atmosphere in any case.

Right but at the poles and while the radiation is deflected too them, a lot of particles are kept in space.



Basically; the heat in the Earth, keeping the outer-core liquid somehow helps to generate these fields and if we accelerate the heat dissipation; we might be making the planet less hospitable to like.

Unless we start stripping the mantle off the earth, this won&#39;t happen. The heat in the Earth is generated due to compression. (It&#39;s how a diesel engine works) If compression didn&#39;t generate heat, then the Earth would be a cold stone all the way through, as it is with very small bodies like the Moon.

In the documentary, a scientist theorized that much of the heat (aside from compression), was generated by nuclear activity and even some reactions to sustain it besides the decay.

ÑóẊîöʼn
23rd August 2005, 20:20
Yes; reversal too but the documentary said there was an overall lessening of the field over the last few hundred years too.

Did the documentary give any basis for the lessening of the field?


Couldn&#39;t compasses be adjusted or is that just too much of a shift?

It&#39;s not really a shift, it&#39;s more like a complete reversal - magnetic North becomes South and vice versa.


Right but at the poles and while the radiation is deflected too them, a lot of particles are kept in space.

Eh?


In the documentary, a scientist theorized that much of the heat (aside from compression), was generated by nuclear activity and even some reactions to sustain it besides the decay.

Aside from critical mass issues, wouldn&#39;t this mean that lava is radioactive? I think we&#39;d notice.

Elect Marx
23rd August 2005, 20:30
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 01:38 PM

Yes; reversal too but the documentary said there was an overall lessening of the field over the last few hundred years too.

Did the documentary give any basis for the lessening of the field?
It had theories mostly; like the Earth&#39;s core is cooling.



Couldn&#39;t compasses be adjusted or is that just too much of a shift?

It&#39;s not really a shift, it&#39;s more like a complete reversal - magnetic North becomes South and vice versa.

Right; so your compass should practically work in reverse?



Right but at the poles and while the radiation is deflected too them, a lot of particles are kept in space.

Eh?

The particles have charges and while they are deflected to the poles, many fly tangentially away from the Earth.



In the documentary, a scientist theorized that much of the heat (aside from compression), was generated by nuclear activity and even some reactions to sustain it besides the decay.

Aside from critical mass issues, wouldn&#39;t this mean that lava is radioactive? I think we&#39;d notice.

I don&#39;t; consider how fucking big the Earth is. How much would that radioactivity be dispersed before it reached the surface? Lava doesn&#39;t likely flow straight up and definitely no out of the metal core. I would think the reactions would spread radiation through the churning metal core, then continue to disperse thought the Earth up toward the mantle; lots of time to disperse radiation.