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Ownthink
12th August 2005, 08:07
From a Briton who joined the Resistance. Dunno how he did it, but he did. And he now translates.
http://www.iwilltryit.com/iraq1.htm
Pretty long (5 minutes) but WELL WORTH THE WATCH!
ALSO.. view this,
http://www.iwilltryit.com/heartache1.htm
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Oppose the war, but support the troops? Fuck no. Look at these:
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicu...sh/iraqiwar.wmv (http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/iraqiwar.wmv)
http://www.fugly.com/media/MOVIES/CRAZY/DontLoot.wmv
"I'm a taxi driver, that car was my livelihood"
FUCK YOU U.S. TROOPS!
Get angry! These assholes DON'T NEED OUR SUPPORT!
Wurkwurk
12th August 2005, 23:54
I've already seen this, because several months ago somebody else posted this. It's really good, I agree!
Dark Exodus
13th August 2005, 01:32
I refuse to believe the entire resistance is unified as such, or that their aims are as true as they make them out to be. Though it is highly likely that certain groups within it will be like this, their are going to many that aren't.
A balanced conclusion must be brought from both sides, it is both easy and foolish to choose what you believe based on your political opinion.
BitchBrew
13th August 2005, 01:58
Originally posted by Dark
[email protected] 13 2005, 12:32 AM
I refuse to believe the entire resistance is unified as such, or that their aims are as true as they make them out to be. Though it is highly likely that certain groups within it will be like this, their are going to many that aren't.
A balanced conclusion must be brought from both sides, it is both easy and foolish to choose what you believe based on your political opinion.
I agree.
"Islamic Jihad Army". You expect me to sympathise with religous fundamentalism?
Ownthink
13th August 2005, 02:30
Originally posted by *****Brew+Aug 12 2005, 08:58 PM--> (*****Brew @ Aug 12 2005, 08:58 PM)
Dark
[email protected] 13 2005, 12:32 AM
I refuse to believe the entire resistance is unified as such, or that their aims are as true as they make them out to be. Though it is highly likely that certain groups within it will be like this, their are going to many that aren't.
A balanced conclusion must be brought from both sides, it is both easy and foolish to choose what you believe based on your political opinion.
I agree.
"Islamic Jihad Army". You expect me to sympathise with religous fundamentalism? [/b]
No, I don't.
I expect you to take the good with the bad and realize these people wouldn't be Religious Fundamentalists killing people if they weren't invaded and attacked first.
Free Palestine
13th August 2005, 05:48
Nobody is asking you to express solidarity with Islamic fundamentalists, but defenders of cities. You don't have to support their social program beyond their opposition to the occupation, just their opposition to the occupation.
Red Heretic
13th August 2005, 06:04
It is the DUTY of all communists (as we are internationalists) to stand in solidarity with all struggles against imperialism, regardless of the ideology of the people conducting those struggles against imperialism.
That does not mean, however, that we should not continue to criticize the ideology of those struggles while standing in solidarity with them.
Communists must practice the principle of Unity-Struggle-Unity. That is unity towards common goals, while maintaining debate and struggle about our ideological disagreements, until we are finally united around a common understanding and are united on an even higher level.
Decolonize The Left
13th August 2005, 06:20
I agree. While I strongly disagree with violence when unnecessary, I believe that it is necessary in this case. These people are defending their country from the very evil that has dominated ours. And they are putting up a hell-of-a fight. More power to them.
- August
Xvall
13th August 2005, 06:33
Excellent post.
Free Palestine
13th August 2005, 07:23
I take the side of Red Heretic. It is obligatory that all communists are on the record as offering support for the Iraqi resistance, based on the universal principle of resistance to occupation. It would be an immense error for us to declare null and void on this issue.
This does not mean we should dismiss our concerns about specific elements of the Iraqi resistance or our moral issues with some of their tactics. But we shouldn't be overtly critical either and must always solidarize with them when criticizing. The left in Palestine, for example, has not been overtly critical, nor should it be, of the militant groups. However, they correctly state that much of the militant groups’ activities are counterproductive. Likewise, the left in Iraq would have their hands in many pots, not limiting themselves to fractious, and often score-settling murders and kidnappings, instead, being involved both in what one presumes are the more secular elements of resistance forces, as well as being involved in the day-to-day arrangements of building local councils, unions and secret societies.
Reds
13th August 2005, 23:31
If the US troops in iraq revolt and refuse to fight will the government still want the american people to "sapport the troops".
Decolonize The Left
14th August 2005, 02:37
If this happens, the government won't know what to do. I imagine they will pull the troops out, and put new ones in their place. They will then dismiss all these troops from the army, and give a big huff and puff about how they are endangering American citizens, etc... more bullshit from the machine.
But I can't see the troops revolting anytime in the future, they are too endoctrined to see any other options.
-- August
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