Starting a political party

[KC]

How does one go about starting a political party? Like what are all the steps you'd have to go to to start a political party? I have no idea how to do this and I'd love to know.

[slim]

What country are you in?

[Donnie]

Well in the UK you have to register with the goverment. I think you have to have support and some money.

[slim]

In the Uk you have to give bribes to get past judges and such forth. There is corruption. There are no true independent parties. Even Galloway has contacts in the oil business who helped him.

My party will follow the course of radical politics. The system is corrupt so a new one must be made.

[KC]

I'm in the US

[Scottish_Militant]

Comrade,

Do not start a party, firstly there are many parties, the last thing the movement needs is another. Instead concentrate on becoming an educated and respected socialist, arrange discussion groups and campaigns, surround yourself with discussion and interaction, and when you are absolutely certain where you stand you might see a party that you agree with.

[More Fire for the People]

Federal Election Committee FAQ
http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_party.shtml

If your going to vote for anything, might as well vote for an existing party because whatever your planning it's not going to work.

[Clarksist]

Do not start a party, firstly there are many parties, the last thing the movement needs is another.


I agree with you, but not completely. I think that parties are the end of the movement, as too much emphasis is stressed on reform nowadays.


If your going to vote for anything, might as well vote for an existing party because whatever your planning it's not going to work.


Or don't vote for corrupt career politicians.

[KC]

I'm not talking about a reformist party. Something like the RCL, but without the maoism, without Bob Avakian, and without a strict party line. Something workers can rally behind.

[Reds]

cpusa?

[Clarksist]

I'm not talking about a reformist party. Something like the RCL, but without the maoism, without Bob Avakian, and without a strict party line. Something workers can rally behind.


Oh, well just get a group together and have meetings and what not. There is nothing the government needs to know about if its a revolutionary party which doesn't feild candidates.

[KC]

cpusa?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[KC]

Oh, well just get a group together and have meetings and what not. There is nothing the government needs to know about if its a revolutionary party which doesn't feild candidates.

So why hasn't this been done?

[Organic Revolution]

there is a shit load of communist parties

[KC]

Yes but they all have party lines and they are all divided because of this. The different sects divide these parties.

[Scottish_Militant]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 02:33 AM


Oh, well just get a group together and have meetings and what not. There is nothing the government needs to know about if its a revolutionary party which doesn't feild candidates.

So why hasn't this been done?
Why dont we have socialism?

[Organic Revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 09:47 PM
Yes but they all have party lines and they are all divided because of this. The different sects divide these parties.
dont even bother with a party, a party banning party lines is still making a party line.

[The Feral Underclass]

This thread is evil.

[h&s]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 03:47 AM
Yes but they all have party lines and they are all divided because of this. The different sects divide these parties.
So in your party you will make decisions on policy, but members can still do the opposite?
'Party lines' are there so that people are organised together, sects only occur when people go against the lines.
Parties that are democratic and organised do not split.


Even Galloway has contacts in the oil business who helped him.

'Even Galloway'?!?
Galloway is just a careerist leftish polititian. Real socialists don't have 'contacts'

[which doctor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 09:31 PM

cpusa?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why do some of us hate the CPUSA? Is it because they are more of a reform party and we are "revolutionaries"?

[Scars]

Originally posted by Fist of Blood+Aug 12 2005, 02:11 PM--> (Fist of Blood @ Aug 12 2005, 02:11 PM)
[email protected] 11 2005, 09:31 PM

cpusa?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why do some of us hate the CPUSA? Is it because they are more of a reform party and we are "revolutionaries"? [/b]
Yes. It also has to do with the fact that they're not even vaugely Communist, now they're more the Socialist wing of the Democrats, because all they seem to do is plug them. That and they have sold out in a very big way. They seem to forget that a vote for the lesser evil, is still a vote for evil.

I suppose I should plug the PLP now...
http://www.revolutionary-communism.tk/
OR
http://www.plp.org

[anomaly]

Why do we need another political party? There are too many as it is.

[slim]

There are not too many. Thats why we vote for the same people every election, because there isnt really another choice. The tories and the labour party are so similar its sickening.

[OleMarxco]

I'd rather have a group like Tyler Durden's "Project Mayhem", any-day, than a friggin' political-party full of people and corrupt invidual's with smug smile's on their faces, talkin' convincingly about this and that issue, oh, and yeah, "YAY, NAY" horse-shit. If the shift's in society's against, then - WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE US!? I've said it before and said it again - Radical politics with Radical method's. Let that which does not matter, truly slide...a.k.a....beurocracy in form, office-dick-suckin', to hell with it all! :rolleyes:

[Red Powers]

Lazar
If you are in the US I don't think you have to do anything to start a party. At the most you might want to go to the county clerk's office and fill out a DBA card (that's doin' business as) so the name of the party is registered. A contact address would surely be helpful. But there are a lot of parties in existence and few if any of them derive from someone just deciding "Hey I think I'll start a revolutionary party." I empathize with your feeling that many of these parties are very small, or dogmatic or whatever. Still forming your own party is a very difficult task. Better to kind of search around for a group that attracts you but understand that things'll be different once you join.

[Warren Peace]

I'd rather have a group like Tyler Durden's "Project Mayhem"

Tyler Durden is my hero. To bad he's insane... and not real.

"Hi. The people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we drive your ambulances. We connect your calls, we guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us". -Tyler Durden

[slim]

We need political parties. As much as people hate them and say how corrupt they are. If there was no need for them they wouldnt exist. The form they exist in is despicable and corrupt but with our leftist parties we can create our own system within theirs.

A few radical leftist political parties would do society a favour and end the corruption. The existing order will not lay down willingly however and violence is expected.

Freedom, an end to corruption and fascism, an end to the terror laws that have questionable intentions.

An end to capitalism.

[anomaly]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 06:37 AM
There are not too many. Thats why we vote for the same people every election, because there isnt really another choice. The tories and the labour party are so similar its sickening.
There are plenty of parties in Britain besides the tories and labour. The whole problem is people don't vote for these parties! If anything, there seem to be too many leftist and socialist parties.

As you correctly note in a later post, violence will prove neccesary. An election alone will not destroy capitalism.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

political parties are useless nowadays, especially in america where it is considered an act of treachery to vote anywhere on the left (dont split hairs - i wouldnt consider the democrats left, more central, and besides thats not the point). what we need are activist groups and organizations, to rally, protest and make their voice heard. you dont convince the worlds most capitalist nation to turn to communism by sitting at party meetings privately discussing the future of the world, you do it by listening to what the people have to say, and telling them what they want to hear.

[Camarada]

Socialist Party USA

http://sp-usa.org/

[Qwerty Dvorak]

ok, i must rectify... i didnt mean political parties are useless, i meant STARTING another one is, or usually is. ok, so the us has a socialist party, but their not exactly challengers for the presidency. and they are going to get that way by starting a load of other parties. wat u should do is join that party, and campaign to spread the word of socialism through aggressive (but peaceful) campaigning for the cause.

[Decolonize The Left]

What needs to happen in the US, if the revolution is ever going to get started, or if we want to get the word out is the following:
All anarchists, socialists, communists, and any branch off of the preceding parties need to join forces. We are all struggling for the same thing in the end, we just differ on little bits and pieces. That can't be, we all must join forces and create a powerful opposition. From there we can circulate flyers, posters, community discussions, etc... to educate the public on other options that are more in tune to what they want.

By uniting the left we will be able to defeat capitalism. If we remain seperate, we will not make progress, and eventually, we will lose the battle.

-- August

[Reds]

Unified communist party of america. unifing the CPUSA, RCP, SWP, and WWP

[Zingu]

The RCP and definately the CPUSA wouldn't agree to that lol, the CPUSA even refused to run on a joint ticket with the SPUSA, showing how revisionist they are

[novemba]

None of the communist parties solely based in the US are any good.

[slim]

My radical party is ready for the cause of revolution. You all preach it, you all want it. It is there in front of you. Take it.

[OleMarxco]

Originally posted by Revolt Now!@Aug 13 2005, 08:59 PM

I'd rather have a group like Tyler Durden's "Project Mayhem"

Tyler Durden is my hero. Too bad he's insane... and not real.

"Hi. The people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we drive your ambulances. We connect your calls, we guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us". -Tyler Durden
Well, except all that bullshit the idea's good. I'm seein' Crimethinc takin' it, and perhaps with influence - doin' it right. It shouldn't only be sabotage; It should be "Robin Hood"-thang too; Redistrubutin' shit the Corporation's can't sell 'cuz it's too expensive, or atleast to the poor, and givin' it to'rem. The waste of today's sale that didn't get selled; Why store it? Shh, a burnin' police-station here and there, makes good for a fiesty st.Peter's eve! ;)

Insane and unreal heroes are sometimes better than imperfect and real one's. Not like it's a realistic ideal to have, but, since most in real life has qualm's; Why live to repeat 'em!? Not tryin' to be inhumane, but attempting at achieving the second best; Bein' compassionate :lol:

And a party is cool if they do something besides doing election's and propaganda, which is like, uh, every four year's? What do like, the other 3 year's and 400 day's? "RECRUIT"? I 'ron't think so!...atleast in'rat alone, but I'd rather see 'em worker's decidin' so by 'remselves :P

[slim]

The HRA is ready to take the cause you so badly want to advocate.

This is the generation that I put my faith in. I lay my life on the line to give you your revolution. I ask you to repay the favour. Fight!

We will prepare for the main event of 2007. Email me if your interested. This is your war. Your revolution. Your future.

[email protected]