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Karl Marx's Camel
10th August 2005, 17:22
I've heard Stalin shot several generals for claiming that German was going to invade the Soviet Union. Is this only a rumor?
Led Zeppelin
10th August 2005, 17:28
Yes, it has never been proven.
Organic Revolution
10th August 2005, 17:34
but it certainly is possible. stalin didnt like anyone thinking (well in his mind) that they were better than him. so he would kill them for being counter-revolutionary.
Led Zeppelin
10th August 2005, 17:38
It is also possible that I am god.
Not proven though.
Organic Revolution
10th August 2005, 17:44
Originally posted by Marxism-
[email protected] 10 2005, 10:38 AM
It is also possible that I am god.
Not proven though.
so your saying that stalin wasnt a paranoid psychopath who would kill anyone suspected of trying to speak out against him??
thought crime anyone?
Led Zeppelin
10th August 2005, 17:47
so your saying that stalin wasnt a paranoid psychopath who would kill anyone suspected of trying to speak out against him??
Yes, that is what I am saying.
Martin Blank
10th August 2005, 17:55
Originally posted by
[email protected] 10 2005, 12:22 PM
I've heard Stalin shot several generals for claiming that German was going to invade the Soviet Union. Is this only a rumor?
Well, he didn't do it personally. But, he did put many of the Red Commanders from the Civil War days, such as Tukhachevsky, on trial for KRTD (Russian for "counterrevolutionary Trotskyite activity") on the eve of the Second World War. And, yes, many of them saw the Nazis preparing for an invasion of the USSR, and said as such to Stalin.
Miles
Organic Revolution
10th August 2005, 17:57
Originally posted by
[email protected] 10 2005, 10:55 AM
trial for KRTD (Russian for "counterrevolutionary Trotskyite activity")
ML this doesnt sound like a charge that only a crazy man would hand out?
bolshevik butcher
10th August 2005, 18:01
Its well known that stalin stopped lots of gneerals prepairing for ww2, and even when the germans attacked didnt allow for propper preperations. He was a terrible military commander.
Led Zeppelin
10th August 2005, 18:08
ML this doesnt sound like a charge that only a crazy man would hand out?
No it doesn't.
Trotskyism was and still is reactionary.
Organic Revolution
10th August 2005, 18:13
and ofcourse stalinism is the great wonderful glorious jesus like movement eh?
stalin aligned himself with hitler, didnt let his commanders prepare for an immenent war, starved his people, killed people for bogus charges and forced people to work in factories while he did nothing at all
Led Zeppelin
10th August 2005, 18:18
Another view of Stalin (http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html)
forced people to work in factories while he did nothing at all
:lol:
Organic Revolution
10th August 2005, 18:28
ok you post a shitty link from a biased group and post a face...hurray for stalinism.
Led Zeppelin
10th August 2005, 18:34
Shitty link from a biased group?
Do you want me to copy paste that book here?
If you don't want to read it then stop wasting my time, your opinion of Stalin is a fixed one.
Urban Guerrilla
10th August 2005, 18:46
Stalin was always paranoid :che:
D_Bokk
10th August 2005, 18:54
starved his people
I thought I would add something to this, otherwise Stalinists wouldn't take the time to address this issue.
Although Stalin was never quoted saying, "Let them Starve" or anything of the sort, I wouldn't put it past him to allow human beings to starve for a political purpose. While Lenin was still alive, Stalin had opposed the ARA whom was supplying food (free food) to the SU during the first famine. Stalin, in this case, seemed as though he would have allowed his own people to starve than to allow the Americans to gain information regarding the Bolshevik Revolution.
Out of the Russian Achieves. Sholokhov reported that government officials had not only taken the food from the 1932 harvest, but also all of the grain seeds for the 1933 harvest. Then Stalin preceeded to call the famine a "fable."
Although I do not hate the man, I don't approve of the methods he used to run his government. I truly believe Stalin had the Proletariat in mind throughout his time in power. However, he was not fit for the job as he used far too much violence and incarceration.
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