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Scots_Socialist
9th August 2005, 19:07
Since i have starting reading this fine board,i've noticed that the contributers to the site,there politics span a wide range of the lefts political spectrum.And i was wondering if people could tell me who has influenced there politics the most?Iam not meaning as in parents or friends etc,or even thinkers like Marx,Engels,McLean etc.Iam meaning actually Revolutionarys who have been involved in the armed struggle for Socialism in there respectice countrys or for International Socialism!My political beliefs since i was 12 years of age have always been the socialist revolution will have to be achieved by the barrel of the gun,but now in this day iam finding myself maybe questioning my ideology(but thats another thread..haha).SO ANYWAY...Armed Revolutionarys???? :ph34r:
Scots_Socialist
9th August 2005, 19:08
P.S...Thanks very much Comrades!
Reds
9th August 2005, 19:23
Ho chi minh.
Bannockburn
9th August 2005, 19:24
Tim McVeigh
London Communist
9th August 2005, 19:36
Well I have great respect for the Brazillian communist guerrilla theorist, Carlos Marighella.
If you believe in armed proletarian revolution then I suppose his 'Mini Manual of the Urban Guerrilla' is a must read.
For 'First World' revolutionaries the more famous book, Guerrilla Warfare, by Guevara is not so useful to us as it is more suited to the 'Third' World revolutionaries.
When you say your having a rethink on your views for revolution, I hope that does not mean your thinking about reformism and the dead end of capitalist electoral politics.
Che NJ
9th August 2005, 19:41
Tim McVeigh
A Nazi?
novemba
9th August 2005, 20:12
I'm thinkin he meant he got him into politics because of all the discussions people were having and he began his journey toward the left
if not...ban him
And tp answer the question, Che mostly brought me into far leftism but I've been surrounded with anti-bueracratic(sp) and anti-zionist material all my life cause i'm palestinian-american.
viva le revolution
9th August 2005, 20:57
Well i was originally influenced by Che Guevara and Bhagat Singh to some extent.
rikaguilera
9th August 2005, 23:17
Che. He was more in "our" time of history, and still was able to get his cause started, and completed. When talking about a revolt, the time it takes place is very important. The closer you get to modern time, with todays technology etc.., it becomes much harder to rise up, and much easier to be squashed. A revolt today would take pure genius, and would be very VERY hard to accomplish. I applaud Che for his intellect, motivation, and his not allowing anything or anyone to stop him. We need another Che today.
Red Heretic
9th August 2005, 23:38
Mao Tse Tung
rebelworker
10th August 2005, 00:26
I personaly think armed struggle as a tactic is both uncalled for and un feasable in the current first world situation, for that matter most of the world.
As for armed struggle thorists, I have followed the IRA, Behind the mask is an excellent film on them from a socialist perspective.
In the NorthAmerican context two sources I find really interesting are The black Panther Party/Black Liberation Army and the Direct Action group here in Canada. I think they are both the most relevant and the most reflective. Many of them are still active revolutionaries which is important.
For the BLA I am personally influenced by ex-Panthers who are still active and have since converted to anarchism:
Kuwasi Balagoon who died in prison in the eighties was involved in attempts by the BLA to punish Hard drug dealers in the ghetto's of NYC, he was imprisoned for beheading a dealer who raped a mans young daughter in payment for crack, I think combatting the more insideouse forms of organized crime is a realistic armed role revolutionaries will need to talk in many areas in the not to distant future.
For more on Balagoon read " A Soldier's Story: Writings By A Revolutionary New Afrikan Anarchist"
you can buy it at
http://www.akpress.org/2001/items/soldiersstory
Lorenzo Komboa Ervin, former deep south Panther wrote an interesting book called "Anarchism and the Black Revolution" that is one of the most detailed and speculative book on modern armed revolutionary uprising I have read, it is obviosly written with an black inner city perspective but I think important reading for all revolutionaries, especially in the North American context.
You can find it at http://www.illegalvoices.org/bookshelf/ana...ack_revolution/ (http://www.illegalvoices.org/bookshelf/anarchism_and_the_black_revolution/)
I aslo am very much inspired by Ashanti Alston, also former BLA, though his writings are not as interesting as seeing him speak about the history of the Panthers and BLA, he did twenty years for a bank expropriation, and was also involved in breaking political prisoners out of jail.
His website is
http://www.anarco-nyc.net/anarchistpanther.html
On Direct Action(anarchist collective responsible for bombing missle plant and hydro projects in the 80's) Ann Hansons book "Direct Action: Memoires of an Urban Guerilla" is very interesting because although most of their actions are fairly isolated and low scale they are the most detailed and contemporary i have found.
You can buy it at
http://www.akpress.org/2002/items/directactionhansenpb
Hope this helps,
rebelworker
rebelworker
10th August 2005, 00:31
PS for more historical stuff I like the spanish anarchsit resistance to the Franco Govt. after the loss of the war
Check out Sabate
http://www.akpress.org/1999/items/sabateak
Also the great guerilla leader Makhno in the Russian/ukranian revolutiona/civil war
http://www.akpress.org/2003/items/nestorma...anarchyscossack (http://www.akpress.org/2003/items/nestormakhnoanarchyscossack)
For two excellent publishers with tons of stuff on both contemporary and historical armed revolutionaries check out (mostly north american)
Abraham Guillen Press
http://www.montrealabcf.org/agpress/
Kersplebedeb
http://www.kersplebedeb.com/in_nojav.html
Camarada
10th August 2005, 02:24
Originally posted by
[email protected] 9 2005, 06:24 PM
Tim McVeigh
you're fucking insane
he was a right-wing terrorist extremist that killed hundreds of people.
MoscowFarewell
10th August 2005, 02:27
Mao and Che.
Camarada
10th August 2005, 02:29
Che
violencia.Proletariat
10th August 2005, 03:32
marcos, berkman
Warren Peace
10th August 2005, 03:44
I'm more anti-authoritarian now, but Mao originally got me into socialism. I read about him in my social studies class and was inspired, so I reaserched him a little and was hooked. Che Guevara has influenced me a lot too. Uncle Ho kicks ass, but I didn't get into him until after I was already a definate socialist.
Reds
10th August 2005, 05:02
I almost frogot John Reed.
bolshevik butcher
10th August 2005, 11:55
John mcaline, che, lenin, trotsky.
joshdavies
10th August 2005, 12:53
Originally - A strange mixture of Marcos (cos the Zapatistas were in the newws a lot at the time) and Trotsky got me interested. Thankfully I much prefer Trotsky's theory to all that Zapatista stuff.
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