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Karl Marx's Camel
9th August 2005, 17:22
Is Hilda Gadea still alive?

What did/does she do?

Does she still live in Cuba?

And what about Che's family, did they decide to stay in Argentina, or did they move to Cuba, like Alberto Granado?

STI
9th August 2005, 18:19
Moved to "Che" forum.

KC
9th August 2005, 20:38
I think they still live in Cuba. I know his daughter does, doesn't she? And his mistress died in Bolivia.

Commandante_Ant
9th August 2005, 20:46
Hilda Gadea died of cancer in 1995 or 96 i think. That was his FIRST wife. Second wife was Aleida March, who he met during the revolution. I'm not sure if she's still alive.

And what mistress is this? Dont want to sound smug here but i've just read a biography of Che and it mentions no mistress.

KC
9th August 2005, 20:59
Deeply hidden in Bolivia, under perfect cover as a student, was one of the most facinating and capable Communist agents ever involved in a clandestine operation. Posthumously famous in Havana propaganda as "tania la Guerrilla," she was an attractive, blonde, blue-eyed, oval-faced girl of about twenty-seven who lived in Bolivia under the name of Laura Gutierrez Bauer....

....Laura's importance in the guerrilla movement became known only piecemeal. Thus it wasn't until after the August 31st clash in which she was killed that htose who had known her as Laura found out she was "tania the Guerrilla," who had conducted an advice-to-the-lovelorn radio program in Santa Cruz which was a means of communicating information to the guerrillas in Nancahuazu. Sometimes she would read "lovelorn letters" so unintelligible that nobody in her audience could understand them, and for a good reason: these were coded messages aimed at Che. Laura's information was useful and often vital, since Santa Cruz was a major station on the guerrilla underground railroad, and a place where arms were cached....

(She was also a double agent for the Soviet Union, but I'm not typing that excerpt out.)

....In December 1959, Tamara met the dashing Latin American guerrilla leader who, as President of the National Bank of Cuba, arrived in her country at the head of a trade mission. She fell in love with him. The gallant Che obtained an official Cuban Government invitation for her to visit Cuba and she arrived there on May 12, 1961. Che promptly put her to work for various youth and women's organizations, got her into the militia, and gave her her first guerrilla assignment. She was to work with the Frente Unitario Nicaraguense, a Nicaraguan guerrilla group then being trained in Cuba for operations in its own country...

There's a part that says something of their relationship, but I can't seem to find it as it's later in the book. That's who she was anyways.

SOURCE: The Complete Bolivian diaries of Che Guevara (And Other Captured Documents) Published by Stein and Day 1968.

schumi
9th August 2005, 22:16
are you sure mate? because she doesnt exactly look like a blondie to me...

http://www.cuba.or.at/LMdata/che_tania.jpg

KC
10th August 2005, 02:31
strange

MoscowFarewell
10th August 2005, 03:03
She's pretty. I give her that. And she's wearing the beret.

Commandante_Ant
10th August 2005, 08:38
i dont doubt that she would have been in love with Che, a lot of women were...but i very much doubt that she conducted an affair with him. Just because he helped her doesnt mean that he was attracted to her etc, Che realised that she had the potential to be a heroic revolutionary.

And Jon Lee Andersons biography of Che is pretty in depth with its information...i dont think he would say everything about Che except for one small fact.

Sir Aunty Christ
10th August 2005, 09:16
Is that Hilda Gadea or Aleida March? Hilda Gadea doesn't look so pretty in photos of her in Anderson's book. Aleida March... now she was a different story.

Also, I looked her (Hilda Gadea) up in the book. Anderson states that she died of cancer in 1974.

Commandante_Ant
10th August 2005, 09:46
the above pic is of a revolutionary called Tania, who Lazar says was Che's mistress...i dont believe it.

Hilda Gadea wasnt a pretty lady....Aleida was a pretty lady. Does anyone know anything about Aleida? Is she still alive?

resisting arrest with violence
10th August 2005, 15:48
I think Aleida March died of breast cancer a year ago

Colombia
10th August 2005, 19:40
There is no proof of Che ever having a mistress besides Aleida and Hilda although we must remember that they were men and are prone to sleep with women whenever given the chance.

cubalibra
11th August 2005, 18:33
Last I heard, Aleida was alive and well in Cuba. She even had a hand in the new book "Che Guevara: Self Portrait" which came out last year.

resisting arrest with violence
11th August 2005, 19:58
Che has a mulatto lover in the Sierra. Her name was Zoila Rodriguez. I read that in two Books one the Che biography by Jon Lee Anderson and the other Che biography by Castaņeda

Commandante_Ant
12th August 2005, 10:28
yeah i remember her now...but to me, the word mistress implies someone you are having an affair when you are married. and i dont think Che did.

Big Boss
12th August 2005, 16:28
to me, the word mistress implies someone you are having an affair when you are married. and i dont think Che did.

Actually, Che had the affair with Zoila while being married to Hilda Gadea. Zoila was his mistress.

Karl Marx's Camel
12th August 2005, 16:42
Why did Hilda Gaeda and Che break up?

Also, like mentioned earlier in this thread, Tamara (Tanja) was a secret Soviet spy who's mission was to spy on Che and his guerilla band.

Sir Aunty Christ
12th August 2005, 16:51
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 03:42 PM
Why did Hilda Gaeda and Che break up?

Also, like mentioned earlier in this thread, Tamara (Tanja) was a secret Soviet spy who's mission was to spy on Che and his guerilla band.
I think it was just a case of Che and Aleida March falling in love and wanting to get married.

sapho
20th August 2005, 21:48
Che's wife is still alive living in Cuba. So are his 4 children from Aleida.
Tania was Che's revolutionary buddy. No one really knows if they were lovers or not

blackcatCA
21st October 2005, 17:05
Jon Lee Anderson's book is about as thorough as any I've seen, and he maintains that Che was never unfaithful to Aleida. However, he wrote the book with Aleida's cooperation, so that may have something to do with that theory.

The only compelling thing I've ever read about Che being UN-faithful to Aleida was in Dariel Alarcon (aka Benigno)'s book "Memorias de un Soldado Cubano", he states that Tanya and Che were lovers, and that he often saw them disappear together while in Bolivia, and since there was no real privacy it wasn't hard to figure out what was going on.

Tanya's mother maintained to her death that her daughter and Che were not lovers.

I really think Benigno's account is probably the most accurate, he really would have no reason to lie about that, and he was actually there...unlike the others.

Wanted Man
21st October 2005, 18:44
Yeah, Benigno was actually in Bolivia, but that didn't stop him from saying that Fidel had "betrayed" Che. Ah well, who cares, really? Perhaps to them, it didn't constitute as "unfaithfulness" at all.

fernando
22nd October 2005, 02:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 06:28 PM
Yeah, Benigno was actually in Bolivia, but that didn't stop him from saying that Fidel had "betrayed" Che. Ah well, who cares, really? Perhaps to them, it didn't constitute as "unfaithfulness" at all.
Fidel didnt send in those reinforcements when Che needed them most. However I dont see how Benigo's dispute with Fidel would make him an unreliable source about this situation.

zuesa
22nd October 2005, 03:30
Please help!

I'm doing some important research and am hoping to find out when Celia de la Serna passed away (Ernesto's mother).

Can some let me know and where I can find more information about his mother?

Thank you.

Jenn

www.officialjenn.com

fernando
22nd October 2005, 11:28
google? try to get Jon Lee Anderson's book about Che Guevara.

metalero
22nd October 2005, 12:17
Tania was a revolutionary comrade from argentina who helped che a lot in bolivia. She did some intelligence work before he arrived in Bolivia; she eventually joined the guerrilla group in the mountain. Unfortunately she and other comrades were ambushed and killed by the bolivian troops while taking a rest at a river. Che could never say goodbye to her...

Che met aleida in the last struggles of the guerrilla campaign in Cuba; he had already broken up with his first wife some 3 years earlier. He eventually invited Hilda and their daughter Hildita to live in cuba, so they could have a better live. Che did have some affair with a peasant girl, but that was before meeting aleida and long after breaking up with Hilda who was in Mexico or Guatemala at the time

by the way, doesn't this sound like a gossip?

Karl Marx's Camel
22nd October 2005, 15:02
When Che decided to leave Cuba, what was the relationship to his wife and children?

Were they supposed to meet up with him in Congo/Bolivia when the war was over, or..?
In Cuba (Fidel) and Congo (Kabila), Guevara was not the head of the guerilla campaign. What was the plan they had.... Regarding what should happen when the guerilla movement would take power in Bolivia, and the revolutionary government would be estabilshed?

Was the plan that Che would become the leader of that state?

blackcatCA
23rd October 2005, 21:59
Agreed, Fernando. I think Benigno has some compelling reasons for feeling abandoned by Fidel in Bolivia. On the other hand, I also think Che himself didn't expect to get out of Bolivia alive. I believe he knew it was going to be his end, and that's how he wanted to go out, in guerilla fight. He was quite disillusioned by that time. Whether Fidel was part of this or not, I don't know. None of us will ever really know......it will always be a matter of speculation.


NWOG, based on your questions, I would suggest reading Jon Lee Anderson's bio on Che. For a shorter read, Jorge Castaneda's bio is also good.

fernando
23rd October 2005, 23:18
If we are to believe Ciro Bustos, Che wanted to create the revolution in Argentina (and the rest of Latin America), he was planning on dying there. Well not really like "oh that will be the country where I die" but more in the lines that the chances of success by them would be so low that they would all die.

Im not going to claim that Fidel had a part in Che's death and the failure of the Bolivia campaign, Im not in the mood for that debate again, but I do get bugged when people will call Benigno or Bustos traitors/gusanos or whatever simply because they dont fully agree with how Castro does his things.

And one thing...dont read Pierre Kalfon's book, well if you do...its kinda filled with outright bullshit and he uses sources who did "the biggest research in Bolivia" which is nothing more than some story build on fabrications and lies. Especially the whole part on Debray and Bustos in the matter.