History never repeats itself...

[slim]

The events in the UK do not seem farfetched. You can almost see them coming. This is because it has all happened before. A regime is using blind public support after terrible events to fuel their own power at the expense of those who follow them. Their price is freedom.

I wont sit here naming states in the past. We know what they are. We know the terror and bloodshed they have caused. The suffering that occured and the infamy that lives to this day.

Brace yourselves for the future. It will be our children's history. One day people will be on their computers talking as we do about events past. They will talk about the beginning of the 21st century.

I cant tell you what they will say. It is up to you. Britain needs your help. We do not need the help of America or Australia or Europe. We need the help of Americans, Australians and Europeans. The events that we await for with dread will not need the help of nations or powers, but of people and ideas.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood. But against principalities, against powers, against the dark rulers of this world."

[Lamanov]

Human nature? I would rather say: nature of the system repeats it's mechanism.

What do you think: can same generation of people be led into the same mistake they've allready made? In other words: can radical right-wing in America wage new war under same excuses within the next 15 years? Can they get the same "support" they've allready gotten?

[slim]

Im talking about the Uk in international terms of repetition, not within the UK. Im talking about the human nature that made the nazis powerful. Gave mussolini power.

In Britain the changes are being made. The symptoms are never identical but you can see the similarities.

[DaCuBaN]

Human nature? I would rather say: nature of the system repeats it's mechanism.

Well... you're both agreeing with each other anyway: If we're a product of our environment, of which our political/economic system is a part then it follows that "human nature" is at least in part the same as the nature of our political and economic mechanisms.


can radical right-wing in America wage new war under same excuses within the next 15 years? Can they get the same "support" they've allready gotten?

Sure, as there's been no major groundshift in public opinion - Until we hear on the news that soldiers are deserting their posts and shooting their officers, public opinion will not be swayed.


In Britain the changes are being made.

There is nothing "happening" in Britain that hasn't been festering since Margaret Thatcher came into power, if not longer. I'll admit there's some interesting legislation planned, such as the latest additions to anti-terrorism laws that could have persons such as Malte deported just for running this site and the US-UK extradition treaty that would render the UK the 51st state in everything but name.

As I said, nothing new.

[slim]

It will psuh the people to breaking point as in the past. People are trodden down and accept the terrible for their leaders until one day, they snap. It is coming. The future awaits us with anticipation.

We are the generation.

Slim. HRA.

[Stokey]

Whilst I agree that what is been done is sick we also have to not let what is happening become a scapegoat for the far right. We need to educate people that what the government doing is wrong and what the far right are supposing of even more authoritarian powers is even worse.