Canadian Imperialism

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by CBC News
General warns of 20-year mission in Afghanistan

One of Canada's top generals says Canadian troops could end up serving for a generation in Afghanistan, a prediction that comes as more soldiers prepare to head to the region.

Maj.-Gen. Andrew Leslie says the lengthy stay may be necessary to help that country break out of "a cycle of warlords and tribalism."

"There are things worth fighting for. There are things worth dying for. There are things worth killing for," Leslie said, in remarks reported in Monday's Toronto Star newspaper.

As many as 1,250 Canadian soldiers will be serving in Afghanistan by February 2006.

But, as the soldiers leave, Leslie warns Canadians should be prepared for a long mission, that could cost lives.

"Every time you kill an angry young man overseas, you're creating 15 more who will come after you," he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/20...tan-050808.html (http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/08/08/Canada-Afghanistan-050808.html)

Yes...so watch for all the pissing and moaning when "terrorists" strike back in Canada.

Why us?

Readers here will already know the answer.

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[We'reTheFirstToDie]

I think the best thing we could do is pack up and haul ass outta there. But really, 1250 troops isn't that many. I sure the terrorists are more likely to hit bigger contributators to "War on Terror". I think the only reason we are there is because we are becoming America's *****. And if the Conservatives get into power here, I'm gonna move to Greenland, as they have offten said they will be sending troops to Iraq.

[Severian]

Originally posted by We'[email protected] 8 2005, 09:41 PM
think the only reason we are there is because we are becoming America's *****.
Canada has also participated in many military interventions without the U.S., often under a UN figleaf. While a junior partner of the U.S., Canadian big business also has its own global interests.

[Martin Blank]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 11:19 AM
Canada has also participated in many military interventions without the U.S., often under a UN figleaf. While a junior partner of the U.S., Canadian big business also has its own global interests.
Agreed. In the Anglo-American imperialist cartel, Bay Street is the "silent partner" with Wall Street and The City.

Miles

[DaCuBaN]

But really, 1250 troops isn't that many. I sure the terrorists are more likely to hit bigger contributators to "War on Terror".

Sure, they've hit the US - the biggest of them all. They hit Spain, who had very few troops in the region, and they've hit the UK, with 8,000 troops (approximately) in the region. Those who oppose Imperialism such as this - no matter for what reasons - will take whatever opportunities come their way.

Canadians must understand, much like our "own" government here made the announcement that such an attack was "inevitable", that they should expect retaliation. For those of us living in the US empire (and if any "Brit" out there thinks otherwise, I advise you lookup the latest (as yet unratified) copy of the US-UK extradition treaty and tell me again whether we, the people inhabiting the british isles, are subservient to the American Empire) such threats will live with us for the forseeable future.

Canada, by involving itself in action in Afghanistan has pegged itself as a "player" in this arena. As they say, all is fair in love and war.

[red_orchestra]

I still don't understand why "we" as Canadians decided that going back to Afganistan will help solve the world terrorist problem. We just painted a BIG bulleye on our country and said ..."come get us".

[Reds]

Canada has an army big enough to place troops in another country?

[Commie Girl]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 11:23 AM
Canada has an army big enough to place troops in another country?
:lol: Ya, we do! Sadly, this is dragging us deeper into the U$ mess. :(

[Eastside Revolt]

"There are things worth fighting for. There are things worth dying for. There are things worth killing for," Leslie said

He right about that, except that he's talking about imperialism.

[We'reTheFirstToDie]

Canada has also participated in many military interventions without the U.S., often under a UN figleaf. While a junior partner of the U.S., Canadian big business also has its own global interests.

I may be wrong, but all the military interventions that Canada has done under the UN were peacekeeping missions, not invadeing a country to claim it apart of us.

[Severian]

Yes, "peacekeeping" imperialist interventions. Which are distinguished from the other kind mainly by taking place under the UN flag. What's your point?

[rebelworker]

Canada is aslo currently involved in training death squads in Haiti, its only 100 RCMP and a dozen troops but we were guarding the runway when the Americans kidnapped Aristed.

[We'reTheFirstToDie]

Yes, "peacekeeping" imperialist interventions. Which are distinguished from the other kind mainly by taking place under the UN flag. What's your point?

I geuss I never thought of the UN as imperialistic.

[Severian]

The Canadian soldiers who tortured and murdered Somalis were part of a "humanitarian" UN force...going back further, IIRC Canadian soldiers were part of the UN force in the Congo in the 1960s...the UN force that connived at the overthrow and murder of Patrice Lumumba, the legitimate prime minister of the Congo who made the mistake of inviting UN intervention....the UN paved the way for decades of puppet dictatorship upder Mobutu.

[PRC-UTE]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 04:54 PM
For those of us living in the US empire (and if any "Brit" out there thinks otherwise, I advise you lookup the latest (as yet unratified) copy of the US-UK extradition treaty and tell me again whether we, the people inhabiting the british isles, are subservient to the American Empire) such threats will live with us for the forseeable future.
The Brits have actually been trying to force a simliar treaty on the US for some time, so that anyone accused of being 'anti-British' can be extradited by the Brit gov't.

[ColinH]

More Canadian imperialism here (http://members.shaw.ca/dpugliese1/canadas_secret_commandos/secretmissions_news.htm).

There are also questions about the extent of the "counter-terrorism"training that Canada has provided to the Nepalese army. According to Department of National Defence documents cited in Canada's Secret Commandos, Canada sent a "special forces team" to advise the Nepalese army. The heavily censored reports show JTF-2 and other counter-terrorism specialists atNational Defence Headquarters in Ottawa were involved, but many of the details of that mission are still being withheld for security reasons.

At the time the Royal Nepalese Army (RNA) was facing the prospect of a fully-fledged civil war against Communist guerrillas and turned to Canada for help.

The 47,000-strong army operated on a paltry budget of US$52- million and had no experience of internal security duties.

The Canadian training team went to work advising the RNA on tactics and the best deployment of its forces against the guerrilla force. In addition, RNA officers were sent to Canada for advanced training.

The training mission -- which went unreported in the media -- left the government in Nepal "extremely well disposed to Canada and the Canadian Forces," according to John Bremner, the Canadian Forces advisor in New Delhi.

The Nepalese army has since been accused of extensive human rights violations, such as randomly opening fire on civilians.