National Bolsheviks

[spartafc]

has anyone come across this idea / grouping before?

Wikipedia tells me that National Bolshevism is "an ideology that attempts to combine elements of fascism and Stalinism. Influenced heavily by the idea of geopolitics, National Bolshevism seeks a merger between Russia and the rest of Europe in a union to be known as Eurasia....." (wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism))

both amusing and concerning at the same time.

[Scars]

They're FUCKING strange. They're mainly neo-nazis that have pictures of Stalin occationally. Their leader/founder is a bloody nutter, fought with the Serbs in the Yugoslavian wars.

[Xvall]

Useful idiots. They might serve well as cannon fodder in some sort of revolution.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 5 2005, 09:55 PM
Useful idiots. They might serve well as cannon fodder in some sort of revolution.
Yeah; maybe instead of Nazis trying to convert commies, we could get the nazbol idiots to hold the front line with the Nazis against the cappies... they wont be missed :( :P
We could give them a monument: "In memory of the assholes that died fighting other oppressive assholes," Then again, that goes for a lot of wars...

[Bolshevist]

How can they try to combine facism and "Stalinism" when they don't even claim to uphold Marxism?

[Xvall]

They're morons. Plain and simple. Don't try to understand their logic - they don't have any.

[YKTMX]

Originally posted by Lenin i [email protected] 6 2005, 10:02 AM
How can they try to combine facism and "Stalinism" when they don't even claim to uphold Marxism?
They've removed the pretence. They "uphold" the basic tenets of Stalinism, namely; "Great Russian" Chauvinism, Imperialist lust, Slav inferiority complexes and a tendency towards authoritarianism.

Stalinism lays the groundwork for these idiots.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by Lenin i [email protected] 6 2005, 04:02 AM
How can they try to combine facism and "Stalinism" when they don't even claim to uphold Marxism?
How can libertarians oppose "state rule" and support corporate rule? Because the ideology is a contradiction with arbitrary distinctions. The ideological justifications are simply irrational excuses for counterproductive agendas and social manipulation.

[Taiga]

They are just plain idiots.

Just look at their flag:
http://nbp-info.ru/new/images/flagsmal.jpg

You may enjoy Nazbol ideology here (http://www.nbp-info.org/)

[Reds]

tell me what you see wrong with this

http://www.mosnews.com/images/g/s97.shtml

[quincunx5]

How can libertarians oppose "state rule" and support corporate rule? Because the ideology is a contradiction with arbitrary distinctions. The ideological justifications are simply irrational excuses for counterproductive agendas and social manipulation.


Because state rule is concentrated power. Corporate rule does not concentrate power, it distributes it. The computer companies can't sell computers without processors. The processor manufacturers can't design chips without computers.
Computers are worthless if they can't get power from the power companies. The power companies them selves use computers and processors as well. Mutually Assured Destruction and "greed" keeps these things running. There is no concentration of power.

The state should provide a basic set of "rules of the game" that applies equally to everyone in the state. The rules of the game are decided democratically. Some rules are Establishing property rights, enforcing private and public contracts, establishing a basic set of freedoms, and punishing those who violate others' freedom. This list is by no means comprehensive. A Libertarian is not an anarchist. They realize that government is an evil necessity.

Having power concentrated in the state will only INCREASE "irrational excuses for counterproductive agendas and social manipulation".

[timbaly]

Do we currently have any members who claim to National Bolsheviks or any who are believers in the ideology? Seeing a member defend himself or herself would be interesting. If I recall correctly from the past there was at least one member who was an NB, Thine Stalin but I think he was eventually banned.

[Taiga]

I just posted an invitation on the NBP forum. Maybe someone will come and explain.

[Scars]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 10:19 PM
Do we currently have any members who claim to National Bolsheviks or any who are believers in the ideology? Seeing a member defend himself or herself would be interesting. If I recall correctly from the past there was at least one member who was an NB, Thine Stalin but I think he was eventually banned.
The guy who set up the American National Bolshevik Party use to post here I think.

[Taiga]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 08:48 AM
I just posted an invitation on the NBP forum. Maybe someone will come and explain.
Well ... you know, they weren't happy to come and explain. Just said "Fuck off! You called us plain idiots..." *tears* :lol:

[Xvall]

tell me what you see wrong with this

The website layout sucks and the girl looks like a prostitute.

[Der Kampfer]

What the FUCK is going on? Who is an idiot? Ты охренела, шалава?

I'm the member of National-Bolshevik Party. If you have questions, ask.

About our leader. He is really a veteran of Serbian war. He rescueed slavic people from your fucking agressor NATO.
About our programm. Our purpose is to destroy the system of liberalism and globalism in the world. Also we want to destroy the USA as the world tyrant. We shall glorify Great Russia and we shall correct the world. Russian Revolution will be soon. It will be the revolution of National-Bolsheviks. Kommunists had many opportunities to make Red revolution in Russia after 1991. But they did not. They can only speak on demonstrations, but nothing do. We will do it! We all are soldiers, NBP have many branches in many countries all over the World. Be afraid, NBP will go for you! Choose, NBP or death!

http://www.nbp-info.org/ - NBP Russia
http://www.bolcheviques.org/ - NBP Spain
http://www.canada.nazbol.org/ - NBP Canada
http://www.freewebs.com/nationalbolshevikparty/index.htm - NBP USA
http://www.nazbol.se/ - NBP Sweden

[Qwerty Dvorak]

hey, if bolshevism is a form of socialism, wouldnt national bolshevism be a form of national socialism? i thought they said no nazi trash

[Lamanov]

Originally posted by Der Kampfer
About our leader. He is really a veteran of Serbian war. He rescueed slavic people from your fucking agressor NATO.

Just another war-profiteer and lunatic!

RESTRICT THIS ASSHOLE !!!

:ph34r:

[Taiga]

National Bolshevik Party USA site.


While National Bolshevism is an immature idea

They said it, not me! :lol:

[Der Kampfer]

RedStar1916, no, National-Bolshevism is not a form of National-Socialism. NB has appeared earlier, than NS. It appeard in Russia near 1917 year. From NS we have only aesthetics, but nothing more. We, russians, have won nazism and our Party don't want to be such as nazi.

DJ-TC
Shut up! Сука, пидор ебаный! If you don't know anything about our leader, you can't speak so. Limonov is a great writer, soldier and Patriot of Great Russia!

[bolshevik butcher]

We shall glorify Great Russia and we shall correct the world

How communist, putting one nation above all others. Tell me are russian portaletarians jsut naturally better than all others?

[Der Kampfer]

We are not communists! Also we are not nazis. We are National-Bolsheviks. I dont put my nation above smb, I'm just a Patriot of my Motherland.

[Taiga]

As far as I understand, NBP put themselves beyond right and left. That's why they use Nazi and Communist symbolics simultaneously.


Originally posted by Der Kampfer
DJ-TC
Shut up! Сука, пидор ебаный! If you don't know anything about our leader, you can't speak so. Limonov is a great writer, soldier and Patriot of Great Russia!
Ah, chill out, don't be so hysterical. He's just a man. Don't deify him.

[Der Kampfer]

We are not left, not right, not in the middle, we are above. Our flag is a symbol of new World Order.
А буржуй тот пусть не пиздит.

[Mujer Libre]

Originally posted by Der [email protected] 11 2005, 01:52 PM
We are not left, not right, not in the middle, we are above. Our flag is a symbol of new World Order.
А буржуй тот пусть не пиздит.
Above? What does that mean?

And this birthmark on my leg is a symbol of the invisible pink unicorn. <_<

[Der Kampfer]

We are the strongest in Russia. Stronger than lefts, rights and other scum. Revolution will be soon&#33; Maybe, it wll be in this September on "Anticapitalism - 2005".

[Mujer Libre]

I see that clarity and answering questions are not the strong points of your organisation.

Revolution next month, you say? interesting.

[Taiga]

I don&#39;t understand why use Communist and Nazi symbolics claiming that you are neither. Why not pick something else?

[Der Kampfer]

I see that clarity and answering questions are not the strong points of your organisation.
What do you want to know?


Revolution next month, you say? interesting.
Maybe. Everything maybe.


I don&#39;t understand why use Communist and Nazi symbolics claiming that you are neither. Why not pick something else?
Our flag symbolizes two great ideologies. But it is not simple combination of Nazism and Kommunism. It is a new ideology, new Nacional-Bolshevizm, with an aesthetics of the Third Reich and courage of russian bolsheviks.

[Scars]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 02:20 PM
I don&#39;t understand why use Communist and Nazi symbolics claiming that you are neither. Why not pick something else?
They lack originality?

National-Bolshevikism does not originate from 1917, it first came into being in the 1920s some time. There was a split in the NSDAP, the more Socialist Types formed a party that retained the racism, genetic purity etc of the NSDAP, but also campaigned with Bolshevik slogans from the Revolutionary period ("Land&#33; Justice&#33; Bread&#33;" and the like). Their name escapes me, but they have been mentioned by the party at some point and they would be the first to attempt to bridge the gap between the extreme left and the extreme right....it&#39;s a novel, but impossible concept.

I can also remember reading a statement made by the leader of teh Natbols that said that they didn&#39;t use the swastika because it is almost universally hated in Russia because of WWII (who would have thought&#33;&#33;?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;? :rolleyes:), hence the hammer and sickle instead.

[Anti-establishment]

Their crazy, &#39;&#39;New World Order&#39;&#39; you say, are the NazBols and Illuminati brothers in arms?

[Der Kampfer]

National-Bolshevikism does not originate from 1917, it first came into being in the 1920s some time.
How you can know? Are you National-Bolshevik as me? NB was created by russian man Ustryalov.


Their crazy, &#39;&#39;New World Order&#39;&#39; you say
Who else can establish the NEW World Order? Communists?


are the NazBols and Illuminati brothers in arms?
I don&#39;t know who are Illuminati. If they are against USA, they are our brothers in arms&#33;

[KC]

Our flag symbolizes two great ideologies. But it is not simple combination of Nazism and Kommunism. It is a new ideology, new Nacional-Bolshevizm, with an aesthetics of the Third Reich and courage of russian bolsheviks.

Could you please describe how the nazi ideology is great? Do you want to kill jews?

[Anti-establishment]

Originally posted by Der [email protected] 11 2005, 03:28 PM
I don&#39;t know who are Illuminati. If they are against USA, they are our brothers in arms&#33;
:lol: holy fuck

[Der Kampfer]

Could you please describe how the nazi ideology is great? Do you want to kill jews?
You think primitively. I&#39;m not the anti-semite. Nazi ideology is great for the doctrine about majesty of the nation. Our plan is to make Eurasian Superstate on the base of Russian Nation.

[CrazyModerate]

This reminds me of 1984. Stupid nationalist. Nationalism is a flawed ideology because if everyone was a nationalist, they would all want to be the #1 country, and we would be in a constant state of war. Its a good thing the Nazis were defeated. If they won with Japan and Italy, they would have started a war with them&#33; And the cycle would continue endlessly.

[spartafc]

" How can they try to combine facism and "Stalinism" when they don&#39;t even claim to uphold Marxism?"

....Well, Stalinism has only the most superfical of relationships with marxism&#33;

[Lamanov]

So, basicly, Orwelian "1984" nightmare implementators.

Just another bunch of fucking sectarian lunatics who think that they are "original" and "above", which "time is comming"... um, September, you say? :lol:
I wonder if commie club is gonna tolerate this shit.

So what exactly did your great nazbol leader do in my country? Murder, rape, torture, pillage?


:cool: :hammer: 200 posts sucka

[Reds]

Originally posted by Der [email protected] 11 2005, 03:28 PM



are the NazBols and Illuminati brothers in arms?
I don&#39;t know who are Illuminati. If they are against USA, they are our brothers in arms&#33;
http://www.illuminati-news.com/index.htm


You have much to learn of western ways young padwin.

[Scars]

Originally posted by Der [email protected] 11 2005, 03:28 PM

National-Bolshevikism does not originate from 1917, it first came into being in the 1920s some time.
How you can know? Are you National-Bolshevik as me? NB was created by russian man Ustryalov.

Because I, unlike you, know a little about History.

[JC1]

NazBols make ab-so-lutly no sense. One day there lynchin&#39; Krygz in Moscow, but On may they have Easterners holdin&#39; there banners ( http://nbp-info.ru/new/photo/010505_krasnodar/01.htm) ?

There just wacko &#33;

[Xvall]

You have much to learn of western ways young padwin.

Rotfl @ your link.

[Comrade Hector]

Originally posted by Der [email protected] 11 2005, 11:09 AM
What the FUCK is going on? Who is an idiot? Ты охренела, шалава?

I&#39;m the member of National-Bolshevik Party. If you have questions, ask.

About our leader. He is really a veteran of Serbian war. He rescueed slavic people from your fucking agressor NATO.
About our programm. Our purpose is to destroy the system of liberalism and globalism in the world. Also we want to destroy the USA as the world tyrant. We shall glorify Great Russia and we shall correct the world. Russian Revolution will be soon. It will be the revolution of National-Bolsheviks. Kommunists had many opportunities to make Red revolution in Russia after 1991. But they did not. They can only speak on demonstrations, but nothing do. We will do it&#33; We all are soldiers, NBP have many branches in many countries all over the World. Be afraid, NBP will go for you&#33; Choose, NBP or death&#33;

http://www.nbp-info.org/ - NBP Russia
http://www.bolcheviques.org/ - NBP Spain
http://www.canada.nazbol.org/ - NBP Canada
http://www.freewebs.com/nationalbolshevikparty/index.htm - NBP USA
http://www.nazbol.se/ - NBP Sweden
WOW&#33; I&#39;m quite shocked that one of these nazbol vermin are posting here. I must say that neo-Nazis in Russia are the most lost and confused fascists on this planet. Actually, I visit stormfront Russia on occasion where Russian fascists praise Hitler but at the same time praise the Russian army for beating back the Nazis.

As for the nazbols, they are fascists who use leftist propoganda and phrasology to recruit young people with leftist and Soviet nostalgic views. In the process, the become Hitlerites.

[Comrade Hector]

For the Revolution we should make use of these useful idiots: Nazbols&#33; Lets have them for Operation: Human Sheild on the front line, where they can stand in the way of Capitalist and Fascist bullets.

[sanpal]

Till an economic mechanism of communist society would be created (even theoretically) it will be appear any revolutionary-extremist parties NB-sense.

Communism is not politic-ideologic goal, but economic one in the main.

[Camarada]

This is just bizarre :blink:

I hope these fascists don&#39;t gain any popularity in Russia or wherever the fuck they come from , because they will have created another fascist maniac, and perhaps worse, they would have tarnished the image of the hammer and sickle by associating themselves with it.

[timbaly]

I wouldn&#39;t worry about them getting too popular. they have been fighting the struggle for their dangerous ideology for a long time now, and it&#39;s far from mainstream. on most political websites National Bolsheviks are few and far between.

[Comrade Hector]

Read my analysis on the National-Bolsheviks:

National-Bolshevism: Fascism with a cute mask (http://www.geocities.com/h_marroquin/National-Bolshevik.html)

[Guest1]

Someone invited this one here. Please, don&#39;t ever invite a Nazi to post here.

[Reds]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 04:02 AM

You have much to learn of western ways young padwin.

Rotfl @ your link.
Rotfl what the hell does that mean?

[Xvall]

It means you need to spend some more fucking time on the internet and learn your e-vocabulary&#33;

[Urban Guerrilla]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 16 2005, 01:40 AM
Read my analysis on the National-Bolsheviks:

National-Bolshevism: Fascism with a cute mask (http://www.geocities.com/h_marroquin/National-Bolshevik.html)
Great job, comrade :che:

[Entrails Konfetti]

They must really hate Iron Maiden.

This organization has to be a parody of some-sort.

[Guest1]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 15 2005, 09:40 PM
Read my analysis on the National-Bolsheviks:

National-Bolshevism: Fascism with a cute mask (http://www.geocities.com/h_marroquin/National-Bolshevik.html)
Comprehensive analysis.

But I don&#39;t think there&#39;s any possibility of "using" NazBols, except as a shitty replacement for firewood.

[Independent Socialist Party]

Der kampfer:

If the Nazbol ideology is not rooted in fascism, why use Nazi posters? Not just your flag, the image in your own signature is just the famous Nazi volksgemeinschaft poster superimosed upon a map of "Eurassia". Take a look at the images from Hector&#39;s article, they&#39;re all nazi posters which youre party just Russified. Is this just some weird coincidence? Pull the other one, it&#39;s got bells on&#33;

Limonov is clearly not stupid, but he is also, just as clearly insane. Insane to think his ideas will ever gain any ground, and insane if he believes a word of what he says. However, I strongly suspect he just gets high on niave young Russians worshiping him. Never trust an old man who runs a youth organisation.

Just because national bolshevism may predate nazism, it does not mean that the nazbols were not influenced by it, or that they do not share a common origin. Your assertion that national bolshevism came about in 1917 thefore, is a moot point.

[RedAnarchist]

wow, bumped for its first birthday. How nice.

[Herman]

We are not left, not right, not in the middle, we are above. Our flag is a symbol of new World Order.

Does your party claim Stalin&#39;s legacy? If so, you are wrong. You call it Stalinism; I call it marxism-leninism. If you and you&#39;re group are not marxist-leninist, then you are not bolsheviks in any way. You are a shadow. Your ideology is a mix of all radical ideologies to form an incorrect ideology.

Lenin would have had you imprisoned and so would have Stalin. Never have I seen such a resemblence to IngSoc.

[Janus]

Y&#39;all do realize that that member is banned right?

[Avtomatov]

The nazbols have super hot chicks.
http://www.mosnews.com/files/8204/pervomai4.jpg

[MrDoom]

Hilarious.

[UndergroundConnexion]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 01:43 PM

We are not left, not right, not in the middle, we are above. Our flag is a symbol of new World Order.

Does your party claim Stalin&#39;s legacy? If so, you are wrong. You call it Stalinism; I call it marxism-leninism. If you and you&#39;re group are not marxist-leninist, then you are not bolsheviks in any way. You are a shadow. Your ideology is a mix of all radical ideologies to form an incorrect ideology.

Lenin would have had you imprisoned and so would have Stalin. Never have I seen such a resemblence to IngSoc.
wait wait ,are you saying in your post that Stalinism and Marxism-Leninism is that same thing?

[Avtomatov]

They are the same thing.

[UndergroundConnexion]

They are not

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

I think they use stalinism in the sense that it was a time that Russia was made "Great". I dont think they are considering Marxism-Leninism as a theory.

[Avtomatov]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 06:47 PM
They are not
Have you read lenin?

[Janus]

Stalinism isn&#39;t the same exact thing as Leninism. However, it could be considered a minor variant of Leninism since Stalin added only very little to Leninism aside from his idea of socialism in one nation.

[Cryotank Screams]

National Bolshevism is a complete joke, not mentioning the fact nationalism, and Bolshevism are completely incompatible, and the fact that they are not only a joke to all Leftists, but also to fascists; they have no ideology, or program, or political system, they are just a bunch of idiots, wearing costumes, and glorifying aesthetics.

Cult of aesthetics and nothing more.


Nationalism places pride in one’s nation and loyalty to a state that adequately represents it as being of primary importance, while socialism is a system primarily defined by the collective ownership of the means of production.

Is this not national Socialism? Personally they sound more rightist than Leftist.

[Taiga]

Originally posted by Scarlet [email protected] 15 2006, 11:00 PM
Personally they sound more rightist than Leftist.
Sure they are rightist. It&#39;s obvious.

[Avtomatov]

Youre right scarlet hammer. that must be why this girl is a nazbol, she looks artsy. There has always been lots of nazi and nazbol artists.

http://www.mosnews.com/files/8204/pervomai4.jpg

[Pirate Utopian]

she looks nice, but nazbols still scare the crap out of me

[Avtomatov]

She should smarten up and be a stalinist or a maoist.

[Pirate Utopian]

nazbols make no sense whatsoever

[The Author]

Originally posted by [email protected] Oct 15 2006, 03:57 PM
Stalin added only very little to Leninism aside from his idea of socialism in one nation.

The idea of socialism in one country did not originate with Stalin.

V.I. Lenin, Our Revolution (http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1923/jan/16.htm)


Infinitely stereotyped, for instance, is the argument they learned by rote during the development of West-European Social-Democracy, namely, that we are not yet ripe for socialism, but as certain "learned" gentleman among them put it, the objective economic premises for socialism do not exist in our country. Does it not occur to any of them to ask: what about the people that found itself in a revolutionary situation such as that created during the first imperialist war? Might it not, influenced by the hopelessness of its situation, fling itself into a struggle that would offer it at least some chance of securing conditions for the further development of civilization that were somewhat unusual?

"The development of the productive forces of Russia has not yet attained the level that makes socialism possible." All the heroes of the Second International, including, of course, Sukhanov, beat the drums about this proposition. They keep harping on this incontrovertible proposition in a thousand different keys, and think that it is decisive criterion of our revolution.

But what if the situation, which drew Russia into the imperialist world war that involved every more or less influential West European country and made her a witness of the eve of the revolutions maturing or partly already begun in the East, gave rise to circumstances that put Russia and her development in a position which enabled us to achieve precisely that combination of a "peasant war" with the working-class movement suggested in 1856 by no less a Marxist than Marx himself as a possible prospect for Prussia?

What if the complete hopelessness of the situation, by stimulating the efforts of the workers and peasants tenfold, offered us the opportunity to create the fundamental requisites of civilization in a different way from that of the West European countries? Has that altered the general line of development of world history? Has that altered the basic relations between the basic classes of all the countries that are being, or have been, drawn into the general course of world history?

If a definite level of culture is required for the building of socialism (although nobody can say just what that definite "level of culture" is, for it differs in every Western European country), why cannot we began by first achieving the prerequisites for that definite level of culture in a revolutionary way, and then, with the aid of the workers&#39; and peasants&#39; government and Soviet system, proceed to overtake the other nations?

January 16, 1923
II

You say that civilization is necessary for the building of socialism. Very good. But why could we not first create such prerequisites of civilization in our country by the expulsion of the landowners and the Russian capitalists, and then start moving toward socialism? Where, in what books, have you read that such variations of the customary historical sequence of events are impermissible or impossible?


It was possible to build socialism in one country. Did that mean the final victory of socialism was possible in one country alone? No.

V.I. Lenin, Achievements and Difficulties of the Soviet Government (http://www.marx2mao.com/Lenin/ADSG19.html)


Complete and final victory on a world scale cannot be achieved in Russia alone; it can be achieved only when the proletariat is victorious in at least all the advanced countries, or, at all events, in some of the largest of the advanced countries. Only then shall we be able to say with absolute confidence that the cause of the proletariat has triumphed, that our first objective -- the overthrow of capitalism -- has been achieved.

We have achieved this objective in one country, and this confronts us with a second task. Since Soviet power has been established, since the bourgeoisie has been overthrown in one country, the second task is to wage the struggle on a world scale, on a different plane, the struggle of the proletarian state surrounded by capitalist states.

This situation is an entirely novel and difficult one.

On the other hand, since the rule of the bourgeoisie has been overthrown, the main task is to organise the development of the country.

Contrary to what the Trotskyites will tell you, Stalin held the same views. In a letter he wrote to a comrade in 1938:

J.V. Stalin, On the Final Victory of Socialism in the U.S.S.R. (http://www.marx2mao.com/PDFs/StWorks14.pdf)


Can the victory of Socialism in one country be regarded as final if this country is encircled by capitalism, and if it is not fully guaranteed against the danger of intervention and restoration?

Clearly, it cannot.


Hence, "Stalinism" is none other than Marxism-Leninism.

[An archist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 06:21 PM
The nazbols have super hot chicks.
http://www.mosnews.com/files/8204/pervomai4.jpg
damn, why must she be a nazbol?

[Pirate Utopian]

ooh sweet irony why must thee mock me?

[Cryotank Screams]

I&#39;d date her, tell she doesn&#39;t know jack shit about politics and what have you, but I would probably date her, or atleast shag her a couple times, ;) .

[Independent Socialist Party]

Originally posted by Scarlet [email protected] 16, 2006 11:14 pm
I&#39;d date her, tell she doesn&#39;t know jack shit about politics and what have you, but I would probably date her, or atleast shag her a couple times, ;) .
Any girl atracted to a neofascist ideology would be so socially inadequate she&#39;d be a bit easy. I suggest you surf the Nazbol sites and see if you can get her number&#33;

PS, why are Nazbol&#39;s banned from posting on this forum? Far better, I think to have the fun of beating them in an argument. (It&#39;s not exactly difficult) Not to mention winding them up by bonting out that Eddie Limonov looks like Trotsky might look, had he spent ten years in a cave. With nothing to eat, except LSD.

[t_wolves_fan]

I heard the party had their convention in its leader&#39;s basement, and that his mom provided kool-aid and cookies.

:lol:

[Zero]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2006 05:15 pm
I heard the party had their convention in its leader&#39;s basement, and that his mom provided kool-aid and cookies.

:lol:
The October revolution was planned in the house of the White army leader, when the Bolshiviks converted his wife. :lol: (If I remember correctly, anyway.)

Humanity is so quirky. :rolleyes:

[Dimentio]

The Nazbol on this thread was not very original or bright. He was actually quite much of a boring hardly literate Russian ultranationalist. Actually, his views is quite casual in Russia, where revanschism and fascism is quite usual phenomena.

If you believe that was frightening or at leasr disturbing, you haven&#39;t seen or read the most extreme variants of this trend. You haven&#39;t looked down the mouth of the white bear.

http://www.worldthreats.com/russia_former_...20Interview.htm (http://www.worldthreats.com/russia_former_ussr/Krutov%20Interview.htm)

This was merely the beginning.

http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=32796
http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=33451
http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=33748

Not to forget

http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=34385

This is maybe invoking laughter, but that person is a very persuasive manipulator and demagogue. My guess is that Russia indeed would turn into some kind of fascist country at the turn of next decade.

http://yarowrath.livejournal.com

[Redmau5]

Originally posted by An archist+October 16, 2006 10:16 pm--> (An archist @ October 16, 2006 10:16 pm)
[email protected] 15 2006, 06:21 PM
The nazbols have super hot chicks.
http://www.mosnews.com/files/8204/pervomai4.jpg
damn, why must she be a nazbol? [/b]
She ain&#39;t that hot. She looks like she has horse teeth.

[t_wolves_fan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2006 10:57 am
She ain&#39;t that hot. She looks like she has horse teeth.
Wow, dying her hair. I&#39;ve never seen that before, way to rock the establishment.

:lol:

[Cryotank Screams]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2006 04:36 am
http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=32796
http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=33451
http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=33748

http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=34385
The threads above piss me off beyond belief, to think that fascist scum like that are allowed to post in a supposed Communist forum&#33;

But there was another picture of our mystery girl, lol, ;) .

[Zero]

Ugh, the educational system in Russia must be horrible for the NBP and assorted NazBols to be growing.

[Dimentio]

soviet-empire.com is not a serious left-wing forum, but rather some sort of garbage-bin for basement-dwellers, with a few serious people at the top. Those serious people are more interested in Soviet nostalgia than to actually change the world.

During one period, there were a lot of frolovites on that forum, following interrupt_00h;s every whim. People like necro, Damien, ComradeDTAIII, Freiheits_Kämpfer and other people looking for a leader to worship.

Heck, the Basque section of the Nazbols even tried to suggest interrupt_00h - or Vladimir Frolov as he actually is named - as new leader of the NBP.

[Zero]

Sounds like a cult of personality more than a revolutionary force. :rolleyes:

[Dimentio]

Vladimir Frolov is not a revolutionary leader, he is rather some sort of famous pundit who have appeared on several internet forums claiming his extremist opinions - and actually have been argumenting for them in a rather skilled way - but some of his opinions and ideas are actually shared by millions of Russians. He is not, as far as I know, affiliated with any party in Russia.

He is the man behind the Krutov pseudonyme.

This shows how communism in Russia actually is more of a cloak of a conservative imperialist movement with fascist tendencies, than a genuine worker&#39;s movement. National bolshevism is the logical outcome of that.

[Herman]

I&#39;d like to have a chat with this fellow... I know of someone who can make arguments like no one.

Send him to Dennis McKinsey. You&#39;ll see how the latter ruins the former in a debate.

[Dimentio]

I know of some other strong argumentators as well, but believe me, you don&#39;t want interrupt_00h on your worst enemy even. It is like being locked into a coffert with a Komodo dragon.