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Publius
6th August 2005, 02:42
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm

I think this should shatter the faith of most Christians.

At least I would hope so.

Side note: I believe this is the actual document that convinced me to become a deist.

Side note: I'm no longer a deist.

Bannockburn
6th August 2005, 03:12
I didn't read the website you suggested. I only scrolled down to get the general idea. I'm got the impression that the Egyptian god had a lot of close similarities between him and Jesus. A virgin birth for example. That's not really surprising. In fact well known. In order to spread the word of Christianity, the disciples had to incorporate already popular religious symbols, and stories to relate to the pagan population. When relating to the population it will assimilate their already existing belief to the new religious doctrine. For example, the wine god Dionysus had a death and was resurrected. Similar to Jesus. That's common, and not surprising.

To have close similarities among the already existing god Dionysus and Jesus, it would be easier to spread among the Greek population. Remember, the Greeks already believe in Dionysus – why wouldn't they also believe in something else that was similar in appearance.

Publius
6th August 2005, 03:48
I agree.

But do you think the average Christian knows any of that, or even thinks about it?

It's clear that their God was created for marketing purposes, not for divine reasons.

redstar2000
6th August 2005, 04:10
Most interesting -- though some of those parallels might be a bit of stretch.

But it's not necessary that the writers of the "gospels" directly copied from Egyptian texts. The historical evidence suggests that from about 100BCE onwards, there was enormous ferment in Jewish theology...with all sorts of ideas from the eastern Mediterranean, Persia, Greece and (why not?) Egypt being combined and re-combined by Jewish religious thinkers.

In addition to whatever ideas "Jesus" picked up on his own, the early Christians undoubtedly borrowed from every tradition anything that might serve to buttress their own claims about "Jesus".

The outcome -- a "holy book" that we call the New Testament -- is a mess of contradictions because it's a combination of borrowings mixed with possibly original material.

In fact, that seems to be the inevitable fate of "holy books"...it is not possible to write one that doesn't "bite its own tail". :lol:

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Clarksist
6th August 2005, 07:49
You were a diest? :o

This is FAR too common. Christianity lining up with other bullshit theologies.

Its all come down to the basic formulas of what is pure, and what makes one pure.

Also, the inventors of Christianity borrowed a LOT. Hell they borrowed the first half of their holy book from the Jews word for word. :lol:

Taiga
6th August 2005, 08:22
This is very interesting. I would like to hear a Christian's opinion. We have some here, haven't we? So, come on, tell us that we are wrong :lol:

Mujer Libre
6th August 2005, 08:31
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 07:22 AM
This is very interesting. I would like to hear a Christian's opinion. We have some here, haven't we? So, come on, tell us that we are wrong :lol:
Now you're just asking for trouble...

Unless you're prepared to suspend both reason and disbelief for a while. :P

Redvolution
7th August 2005, 17:46
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 08:48 PM
It's clear that their God was created for marketing purposes, not for divine reasons.
Well said.

Awesome and fascinating page. I always knew Christianity engulfed "pagan" religions, but never to this extent. This will definitely become handy in debates.

JC1
7th August 2005, 18:14
But do you think the average Christian knows any of that, or even thinks about it?


I dont think the average KKKhrist sucker thinks about the tens of millions killed by his religion either.

guerillablack
8th August 2005, 09:48
Have any of your read egyptian mythology? Sorry to burst your bubble but that website is way off. Whenever there is a post like this mocking religion every jumps on it like pack of wolves without cross referencing. I study alot about KMT(Egypt). Isis isn't called Isis-Meri, amongst other things.

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Bannockburn
8th August 2005, 13:04
This is why I wantd to focus on Greek Myth. Something I know. Other than Greek, or even Roman. got me beat.

Sihvyl
17th August 2005, 20:15
Very interesting, I personally couldn't comment on the accuratness of the comparison, but still a good read. Amen....I mean, Amun ;)