View Full Version : The "Mother Teresa" Myth
redstar2000
5th August 2005, 17:01
Check out the portions of this book on line by a Calcutta resident on the Vatican's new saint (and Nobel Prize winner!) "Mother Teresa"...
http://www.meteorbooks.com/introduction.html
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Camarada
5th August 2005, 19:09
she's a saint? I thought she was only beatified.
LSD
5th August 2005, 20:13
About time that somebody brought up that lunatic.
This "saint" was a fanatical religious fundamentalist obsessed with inflicting pain who exploited the poor, maltreated the sick, stole donations, and supported brutal dictatorships.
When she recieved her Nobel Joke, she said that the greatest threat to world peace was "abortion". :o
The Catholic selling of this hateful little monster as "holy" is one of the greatest con-jobs of the twentieth century. "Mother" Theresa was a horrible biggoted fanatic and the world is better off for her being dead. :angry:
But then of course, hateful, fanatical, and abusive seems to describe the majority of historical "saints". I guess she'll "fit right in"! :lol:
Clarksist
6th August 2005, 21:37
Wow, if you can become a saint through charity fraud, racism, nationalism, and strong hate for anyone not perfectly aligned with her... why doesn't Hitler get to be a saint?
"Blessed" Teresa performed no miracles, except keeping the best PR campaign in ages.
MoscowFarewell
6th August 2005, 21:52
I got in an arguement with this, then everyone became *****es. Nobody gets it.
Publius
6th August 2005, 22:30
She's a god-head to most people, but was actually a sick *****.
LSD
6th August 2005, 23:25
Wow, if you can become a saint through charity fraud, racism, nationalism, and strong hate for anyone not perfectly aligned with her... why doesn't Hitler get to be a saint?
Military failure.
If Germany had won the war, I'm sure that the church would have "graciously" given the Fuhrer a sainthood. With the Vatican surrounded by fascist Italy and all of mainland Europe in National Socialist control, the Pope would be under considerable pressure to acquiesse and beatify Hitler.
Not that it would have been much of a stretch; Hiter had quite a lot in common with the Catholic saints, especially those from the "Holy" Crusades.
Mass murder, genocide, racism, antisemitism, religious fanaticism...
The world was about one battle short of having a St. Adolf of Austria.
Sirion
7th August 2005, 00:49
A little off topic, but the founder of one of Norways largest contemporary political parties (Fremskritspartiet, a populist neo-liberal party) was in a period working hard for getting Hitler nominated for Nobels peace price.
MoscowFarewell
7th August 2005, 00:53
Hitler did have quiet alot of religious crusades. In my arguement, they spoke so highly of how she helped countless thousands, to which I wanted to remark.
"Prove it. I want a video and indentification of everyone of this individuals she helped. If you can pull that off, you've got a cult follower. "
Forward Union
7th August 2005, 17:19
"God Is With Us" - Adolf Hitler (used on the belt buckle of a Nazi regiment)
"I am doing the lords work" - Hitler
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so," he told Gerhard Engel, one of his generals, in 1941.
JC1
7th August 2005, 18:22
Hitler had quite a few audiences with the Pope, and the Pope dissolved the Italian Catholic Party so that "Il Duce" could succsed in his struggle. The Cathlocic Church also operated Italian Death Camps in Serbia during the war.
Yep, the world was not so far away from a St. Adolf of Germania and a St. Benito of Italy.
Note: YAY ! 200 posts !
Invader Zim
7th August 2005, 22:10
religious fanaticism
Of the many things Hitler was, religious fanatic he most certainly was not. Indeed a very strong argument exists suggesting Hitler was an athiest, despite the convictions made early in his life. Either way, he certainly was not fanatical about religion.
LSD
7th August 2005, 23:14
Of the many things Hitler was, religious fanatic he most certainly was not.
No, he was religious. Not Christian, per se, but evidence suggests that he legitimately believed in a "God" and thought that "God" supported his actions.
Indeed a very strong argument exists suggesting Hitler was an athiest, despite the convictions made early in his life.
This isn't about "early convictions", it's about beliefs that, by all indications, he held throughtout his life, regarding the nature of the universe and specifically the place of the "Aryan race" in it.
Sirion
8th August 2005, 00:01
The Nazi party also had great faith in the heretic mythologies of the past. For example, it is suspected that an officer was liquidated after failing to find the holy grail. Theories about them consulting the world of astrology before laying plans have also been suspected.
Xvall
8th August 2005, 01:11
The Nazis were pretty dumb, and they would have probably embraced any supersticious drivel that they thought would help them suceed.
She's a god-head to most people, but was actually a sick *****.
Lol. True that.
MoscowFarewell
8th August 2005, 05:01
They did have a pretty steep idea in the Holy Grail.
Clarksist
8th August 2005, 05:23
The Nazis were pretty dumb, and they would have probably embraced any supersticious drivel that they thought would help them suceed.
The idea was to legitamize Hitler as this monarch of old with a strong mythos of supernatural greatness.
Too bad he had no grasp of the material world, and became a meth addict. Kinda kills the "mythos".
Invader Zim
8th August 2005, 12:53
Originally posted by Lysergic Acid
[email protected] 7 2005, 11:14 PM
Of the many things Hitler was, religious fanatic he most certainly was not.
No, he was religious. Not Christian, per se, but evidence suggests that he legitimately believed in a "God" and thought that "God" supported his actions.
Indeed a very strong argument exists suggesting Hitler was an athiest, despite the convictions made early in his life.
This isn't about "early convictions", it's about beliefs that, by all indications, he held throughtout his life, regarding the nature of the universe and specifically the place of the "Aryan race" in it.
No, he was religious.
There is plenty of evidence to suggest that this is untrue, as much as there is to suggest it is true.
Not Christian, per se, but evidence suggests that he legitimately believed in a "God" and thought that "God" supported his actions.
The only evidence we have is what Hitler said and did. Hitler’s policies were traditionalist, he wanted to retain societies natural order, hence the reason he saw religion as part of 'Aryan society'. However this does not mean he believed in it himself. We can only base his personal beliefs on what he is reported as saying. What he is reported as saying is highly conflicting, thus we can make no honest appraisal of the situation, leaning towards either side of the debate.
But either way, we can say that Hitler was not a religious fanatic, religion clearly only played a limited, at best, role in his view of society and his control over the Reich.
Donnie
8th August 2005, 15:56
Can anyone here give me a link to a site to some of the sick stuff Mother Terrisa did, like a critique of her. Thanks
redstar2000
8th August 2005, 17:41
Originally posted by
[email protected] 8 2005, 09:56 AM
Can anyone here give me a link to a site to some of the sick stuff Mother Terrisa did, like a critique of her. Thanks
Look at the first post in this thread.
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Commie Girl
8th August 2005, 17:47
Wow, thanks for the links. I had no idea. Around here, people already consider her to be a "saint" :huh: I consider myself to be fairly informed, but this really opened my eyes.
But its a along road back to sanity when you were raised Roman Catholic and were forced to attend mass every Sunday for 18 years, and the local Catholic High school is named for your grandfather :(
Andy Alexis-Baker
9th August 2005, 06:25
good grief...dont you have anything better to do than spread unfounded gossip like this. The inquirer would be proud of this thread.
Clarksist
9th August 2005, 06:28
good grief...dont you have anything better to do than spread unfounded gossip like this. The inquirer would be proud of this thread.
How do you expect us to agree with you, when you give no credible evidence that Mother Teresa DESERVES saint hood?
LSD
9th August 2005, 07:20
good grief...dont you have anything better to do than spread unfounded gossip like this.
To what are you referring? :huh:
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