View Full Version : Trotsky anyone?
nz revolution
13th November 2002, 10:22
trotskys collected works on cd rom, there is about12 volumes that are about 400+ pages.
someone send me a message if they are interested...
man i always make typos on the heading/subject. was supposed to be "have come into my possesson" or something along thos lines
(Edited by nz revolution at 10:25 pm on Nov. 13, 2002)
Behind enemy lines
26th November 2002, 12:45
Bah
No one is interested in that Stalin bashing childesh nonsense :)
You need to distribute this everywhere. Hopefully there will be a SWP cult member in this place who will report back to the 20million dollar man(Barnes) and you will get sued. Ahahahahaha
Peace brother
thursday
26th November 2002, 17:53
Who needs wood to keep warm when you have Trotsky CDs?
ThunderStrike
26th November 2002, 18:53
Quote: from thursday on 5:53 pm on Nov. 26, 2002
Who needs wood to keep warm when you have Trotsky CDs?
LMAO
guerrillaradio
26th November 2002, 19:13
Have I stumbled into a Stalinist elf village?? *confused*
Pete
26th November 2002, 20:35
im interesting NZ... i dont have anything usefull to say after that
nz revolution
27th November 2002, 03:11
No this is no Stalinist village. But if Stalin was the shaman of our village I'd cap his arse.
Send me a message people if you want the legendary leader of the red army's work.
Contact will be made and governments will be laid... to waste
Ian
27th November 2002, 07:02
I would love to buy it, too bad I have no money!
I find it funny how these stalinists are saying how crap Trotsky is, when the fact is, Stalin only wrote one half decent pamphlet "On the National Question" or something, and even in that he reduced nations into simplistic things. Trotsky wrote heaps! "Our morals and theirs", "Why Marxists oppose terrorism", "First five years of the Communist international", "The History of the Russian Revolution", "The Permanent Revolution", "The Revolution Betrayed", "The Transitional program of socialist revolution" and many others.
CDs replacing firewood as a fuel for fire? Sounds as stupid as socialism in one country superceding internationalist socialism!
NZ Revolution- Are you from the North or South Island? Age?
Behind enemy lines
27th November 2002, 22:37
It is free comrade.
I am a friend of nz revolution and we are both from christchurch(south island)
It is free cos the SWP sued another place ages ago cos they were giving it away and they(SWP) were selling it.
Someone from there helped do something for it and has some kind of bullshit right to seeling it. We have 'problems' with them so it is being re-distributed to the masses via us.
Who would have thought, copyrighting Trostky.
Behind enemy lines
27th November 2002, 22:43
If anyone wants it we can send it via internet(somehow, nz will prob know how) or you can contact him and he will give you our P.O. Box number so people can send a self addressed envelope with blank C.D's or money ($2.20 nz dollars each) it's on one c.d.
Talk to him about it.
nz revolution
28th November 2002, 01:13
This crazy character behind enemy lines, seems to speak well for me... lol
South Island but Im going to the North Island (such original names aye?)
I'll do it for free (not that I would charge, only for the cost of a CD) but then you will have to do something for us. Its up to you what you choose to do (the favour that is)
each one teach one, son help son.
I cant belive Che swore on a picture of Stalin. Would have suited a picture of Lenin, as Stalin declared Socialism in One Country. Imagine if Che did that and just stayed in Cuba and said "Fuck the world, I have socialism here" or something like that. HE would be alive but he woud not have inspired the amount of people he has.
peace comrades
Ian
28th November 2002, 10:48
The thing about Che's stalinism is this.
-On the one hand are the 'basic principles' which are holy to all stalinists ie. the class struggle in the post revolutionary period which justifies dictatorship of (not over as stalinism was in practice) the proletariat, and solidarity between the socialist camps in the face of the class enemy (this holy principle made stalinists prefer working with bourgeois liberal parties than they did with trotskyist parties). Ché agreed with their principles theoretically although not in practice eg. when he saw Castro trying to make the Cuban CP a Monolithic structure that, in a self-righteous manner, asserts that they are the truth, he resigned from his post and left to participate in struggles in Congo and Bolivia.
He was not a fan of Stalin in practice however. I guess he needed something to swear upon and a photo of Lenin or Marx would be too precious to drag through the mud in Bolivia or Congo. :)
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