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Warren Peace
3rd August 2005, 19:17
Democracy Now! (http://www.democracynow.org/) says:
Hate Crimes in London Soar by 600% Since Bombings
In London, police are reporting that the number of religious hate crimes has soared by almost 600 percent since the July 7th bombings. Since that day, nearly 270 hate crimes have been reported in the city. During the same period last year, 40 were reported.
That's not good. :blink: I thought the British would react more maturely to 7/7 than American rednecks did to 9/11, but I guess not.
What do you think? Are the bombings increasing racism in the UK?
Xvall
3rd August 2005, 19:30
People will tend to act like that regardless because people are stupid and don't think. No country or population is immune to the horrors of human stupidity.
YoUnG192
3rd August 2005, 19:31
Coverage religious hate crimes after 9/11 in America have been rare. Just around my cousin's neighborhood, people going in and leaving the local mosque were shot at with paintballs. Most of these people actually left the country. In regards to London hate crimes its no surpise of the sharp increase. People need to understand its the minority who are extremists and not the majority.
Sir Aunty Christ
3rd August 2005, 19:56
What I've realised (just over the last few days) is that of all the rich western countries, the USA and the UK are probably the most backward in terms of political awareness, political tolerence, religious tolerence, crime rates - and practically all other social indicators. So, therefore, I'm disappointed but not shocked by this.
Commandante_Ant
3rd August 2005, 20:15
I'm not surprised that this has occured. In Britain, for the past 50 years at least, there has always been racial discrimination, something i'm not proud of as a "Brit". And with an event like this, with Muslims to blame, racial tensions were bound to increase. This is awful to say but it would have been better if one of the bombers had been a white man. It would have ruled out the racism for simple terrorism.
refuse_resist
3rd August 2005, 21:33
Another article relating to this.
Facing Hostility, Two-thirds of Muslims Consider Leaving UK
LONDON, July 26, 2005 (IslamOnline.net) – Nearly half a million Muslims contemplated leaving Britain after the London terrorist attacks, with one in five saying they or a family member have faced abuse or hostility since the attacks, according to new a Guardian/ICM poll published Tuesday, July 26.
Nearly two-thirds of 1,005 adults aged 18+ interviewed by ICM had thought about their future in Britain after the attacks, with 63% saying they had considered whether they wanted to remain in the UK.
Older Muslims were more uneasy about their future, with 67% of those 35 or over having contemplated their future home country compared to 61% among those 34 or under.
Britain 's Muslim population is estimated at 1.6million, with 1.1million over 18, meaning more than half a million may have considered the possibility of leaving, said the Guardian.
Some 56% of Muslims are optimistic about the future of their children in Britain , while only three in 10 were pessimistic.
The July 7 London attacks have killed 56 people including four bombers, three of them are Britain-born Muslims of Pakistani origin.
Increasing Hostility
The poll also shows that tens of thousands of Muslims have suffered from increased Islamophobia, with one in five saying they or a family member have faced abuse or hostility since the attacks.
Police have recorded more than 1,200 suspected Islamophobic incidents across the country ranging from verbal abuse to one murder in the past three weeks.
On Sunday, some 300 far-right protesters chanted racist slogans outside the Central London Mosque near Regent's Park, which was hosting an Islamic conference organized by the Islamic charity, Da'watul Islam UK , on combating extremism.
They shouted insults and waved banners reading " Britain for the British" and "Keep Alien Wars Off Our British Shores".
A British Muslim of Pakistani origin was beaten to death by a gang of extremists in Nottingham in northern Britain on Sunday, July 10.
Police sources said that Raza, 48, had gone to a shop to buy some items and while getting out, he was attacked by a gang of extremists until he breathed his last.
Fears of reprisals have been running high among British Muslims in the wake of the London attacks.
At least seven mosques have come under arson and racist attacks few hours after the bombings.
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, warned on Monday, July 11, against making Muslims "scapegoats" for the London bombings.
Iraq War
Nearly eight in 10 Muslims believe Britain 's participation in invading Iraq was a factor leading to the bombings.
Nearly two-thirds of Muslims identify racist and Islamophobic behavior as a cause compared to 57% of all Britons.
Former British prime minister Sir John Major joined Monday, July 25, a chorus of former officials and prominent writers who believe that the Iraq war had heightened the threat of terrorist attacks in Britain .
The "ill-considered venture" of invading Iraq has turned into a "mess" fueling attacks around the world and providing Al-Qaeda with sympathizers across the Muslim world, award-winning British reporter Patrick Cockburn wrote Monday, July 25 in the Independent.
An ICM poll for the Guardian found on July 19 that two-thirds of Britons believe the July 7 bombings in were linked to Blair's support for the US-led invasion of Iraq .
A recent report by the London-based Royal Institute of International Affairs, known as Chatham House, said the Iraq war has made Britain more vulnerable to terrorist attacks.
Anti-violence
Fifty seven percent of Muslims criticized scholars and leaders for failing to root out extremists, compared to 68% of all Britons.
Half of Muslims thought that they needed to do more to prevent extremists infiltrating their community.
British Muslim leaders pledged on Tuesday, July 19, active and effective participation in the government's efforts to combat the poisonous phenomenon of extremism for the welfare of British society.
Nine in 10 Muslims interviewed believe violence has no place in a political struggle, according to the poll.
A small rump told ICM of their support for the attacks on July 7 and 5% said that more attacks would be justified.
A statement issued by over forty leading mosque imams, muftis and scholars representing all sections of Muslims in Britain stressed that "there can never be any excuse for taking an innocent life".
The British Muslim Forum issued on July 18 a fatwa signed by more than 500 British Muslim scholars dismissing suicide bombings as "vehemently prohibited".
http://islamonline.net/English/News/2005-0...article05.shtml (http://islamonline.net/English/News/2005-07/26/article05.shtml)
YoUnG192
3rd August 2005, 22:08
A British Muslim of Pakistani origin was beaten to death by a gang of extremists in Nottingham in northern Britain on Sunday, July 10.
Wow, that is very extreme. It's sickening that it wasn't even mentioned in the mainstream news (if it was correct me if am wrong). Does anyone know if there have been any hate crimes against Muslims in the US that involved murder?
bolshevik butcher
3rd August 2005, 22:15
Yeh i wouldn't want to be a muslim in britain jsut now, especially in the bnp heartlands. I remember after 9/11 the lcoal mosque got burned, that was really horrible.
Commandante_Ant
3rd August 2005, 22:22
Originally posted by
[email protected] 3 2005, 09:08 PM
A British Muslim of Pakistani origin was beaten to death by a gang of extremists in Nottingham in northern Britain on Sunday, July 10.
Wow, that is very extreme. It's sickening that it wasn't even mentioned in the mainstream news (if it was correct me if am wrong). Does anyone know if there have been any hate crimes against Muslims in the US that involved murder?
Whats more worrying is that i havent heard of that before. Now to me, thats big news, that warfare on the streets. Yet i've heard no mention of that on the television news or saw it in the papers. Thats whats more worrying. The press above all should be impartial and non-judgemental.
Racism surrounds the British people like a rope strangles a neck. its everywhere, more so in some places. Racism has to kicked to touch, we have to break it. How many innocent people have died from simply having a different skin colour, talking with a strange accent....in this day and age, its a disease.
bolshevik butcher
3rd August 2005, 22:25
fucking hell i jsut realissed that ive not heard about that either.
YoUnG192
3rd August 2005, 22:41
Whats more worrying is that i havent heard of that before.
fucking hell i jsut realissed that ive not heard about that either.
Yeah this is just crazy to me. The fact that a person from a board gave me the news that a Muslim man was killed in a racist attack in England rather than a news channel like CNN or any evening news is just absurd!
bolshevik butcher
3rd August 2005, 22:53
well i live in the uk and i hadn't heard about it!
YoUnG192
3rd August 2005, 22:59
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/notting...ire/4674231.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/4674231.stm)
There's the BBC news link of the muslim man killed in Nottinghamshire. Found it online but I have been seeing the BBC Evening news on the tele and nothing of that sort came up at all.
Warren Peace
4th August 2005, 01:49
well i live in the uk and i hadn't heard about it!
Here in the US, all the mass media is actually owned by the ruling class, through corporations. I don't know for sure but I'm guessing the UK is the same way. So obviously news about nationalist, racist violence would be hidden or whitewashed.
It's crazy how the brainwashed Republicans talk about how evil the "liberal media" is, while they support the people who actually own all the media! All the mass media is reactionary! The "liberal media" is just a scapegoat for the Republican Party. If it wasn't for alternate media like Democracy Now!, I never would have heard about this.
Clarksist
4th August 2005, 06:39
It's crazy how the brainwashed Republicans talk about how evil the "liberal media" is, while they support the people who actually own all the media! All the mass media is reactionary! The "liberal media" is just a scapegoat for the Republican Party. If it wasn't for alternate media like Democracy Now!, I never would have heard about this.
Some media is quite liberal.
Just none of it is very Left at all.
Republicans only do that, however, to push everything so far Right that people think John Kerry is a communist.
h&s
4th August 2005, 10:44
well i live in the uk and i hadn't heard about it!
I live in Nottingham and half of everyone you see hasn't heard of it.
(BTW, Nottingham is not in the North)
Dark Exodus
4th August 2005, 14:24
Originally posted by Revolt Now!@Aug 4 2005, 12:49 AM
Here in the US, all the mass media is actually owned by the ruling class, through corporations. I don't know for sure but I'm guessing the UK is the same way.
Not really.
Warren Peace
4th August 2005, 16:41
Not really.
That's good.
Lord Testicles
4th August 2005, 17:19
i find that racism is verry common in britain for instace when the iraq war started an iraqi from swansea was murdered because of his nationality and around that area (were i live) the racial comments are frequant
h&s
5th August 2005, 14:23
Its not common at all. The vast majority of people condemn it completely. Its just that we have a vocal minority in the UK, helped along by the rags we call newspapers.
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