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FriedFrog
3rd August 2005, 12:42
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4740869.stm

Man questioned over racist murder

Hundreds attended a vigil for Anthony in Liverpool
A 26-year-old man continues to be questioned over the racist axe murder of black teenager Anthony Walker.
The 18-year-old was attacked by a gang of white men on Friday night in Huyton, Merseyside, in what police say is a racially-motivated attack.

Police also arrested a 29-year-old man and a 17-year-old youth but both have been released on police bail.

Hundreds of people attended a vigil in Anthony's honour at St George's Hall in Liverpool on Tuesday.

Anthony's mother, Gee, made her first public statement since her son's murder at the vigil.

She said she felt sorry for his attackers, but that they should not be allowed to walk the streets.

His sister, Dominique, made a public appeal for help in catching his killers.

"I just want to say to the people that if anybody knows anything can they speak up.

"This is no joke, he is flesh and blood, my little brother, he was only 18."

Doreen Lawrence, the mother of Stephen Lawrence, who was stabbed to death in a racist attack in London in 1993, had earlier visited the scene of Friday's killing.

"I'm only hoping that this time that justice will be done and seen to be done, because Stephen's killers are still walking free and I'm hoping that Anthony's killers will be brought to justice," she said.

Detectives are still trying to trace Michael Barton, 17, and Paul Taylor, 20, who are also from Huyton, although its believed they may have left the country.

Michael Barton's brother, Manchester City footballer Joey Barton, appealed for his brother to contact police as he called the murder "senseless" and "horrific".




Reminiscent of the Stephen Lawrence murder? Shows how much the police have learned in 12 years if crimes like this are still occurring: Nothing

h&s
3rd August 2005, 14:09
What I want to know is why is this murder (rightfully) getting the whole attention of the press, yet when a Muslim man was murdered in a racist attack in my home city of Nottingham there was virtually no coverage?

FriedFrog
3rd August 2005, 14:59
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/notting...ire/4674231.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/4674231.stm)

Is this the one you are talking about?

And my guess is that the media took a special interest in this because of its similarities with the Stephen Lawrence case.

The BBC, eh? Impartial and fair as ever...

Dark Exodus
3rd August 2005, 15:26
Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 01:59 PM
The BBC, eh? Impartial and fair as ever...
Don't be so critical, the BBC are much fairer than most media orginisations (Al-Jezeera, Fox)

I don't like their standing on the totally unfair VCR bill but thats different.

FriedFrog
3rd August 2005, 15:43
Originally posted by Dark Exodus+Aug 3 2005, 02:26 PM--> (Dark Exodus @ Aug 3 2005, 02:26 PM)
[email protected] 3 2005, 01:59 PM
The BBC, eh? Impartial and fair as ever...
Don't be so critical, the BBC are much fairer than most media orginisations (Al-Jezeera, Fox)

I don't like their standing on the totally unfair VCR bill but thats different. [/b]
The BBC are only fair if you go looking for the news you want. They give too much coverage (in my opinion) to trivial things, for example, this was on their website main page:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4740651.stm

I think something like http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4741877.stm is more important than an astronaut managing to fix a tile.

They give preferential treatment to western news and the western way of life. If there was widespread famine in the US, you could guarantee it would be reported all day every day until 'the world did something to help' or whatever.

Sure, they're 'fairer' than Al-Jezeera or the Fox network, but so long as Space DIY is deemed more important than famine, its not fair.

refuse_resist
3rd August 2005, 21:21
Originally posted by Dark Exodus+Aug 3 2005, 02:26 PM--> (Dark Exodus @ Aug 3 2005, 02:26 PM)
[email protected] 3 2005, 01:59 PM
The BBC, eh? Impartial and fair as ever...
Don't be so critical, the BBC are much fairer than most media orginisations (Al-Jezeera, Fox)

I don't like their standing on the totally unfair VCR bill but thats different. [/b]
Lumping al-Jazeera in with Fox News is stupid. I would trust al-Jazeera over any mainstream western news media anyday.

Watch the documentary "Control Room" to see what I'm talking about.

Free Palestine
3rd August 2005, 22:33
I will second the notion that painting Al-Jazeera and Faux 'News' in the same category is nothing less than stupid.

bolshevik butcher
3rd August 2005, 22:35
Sorry, but al hazzera is bias, id say less so than fox but it does to na extent show tis viewers waht they want. Now the bbc is ias but less so than fox or al jazeera or cnn. As for this, it was horrible and ic ant beleive the murder in nottingham has not been covered.

viva le revolution
3rd August 2005, 22:47
My opinion on this matter is that al-jazeera does to an extent cater to arab sensitivities and does portray the news in a biased way. but there is a fundamental difference between the reporting of al-jazeera and fox news, al-jazeeras news at least has some relation with reality, for example, if the U.S bombs a building in Iraq, al-jazeera will report it as U.S aggression and may overestimate the number of iraqis killed, but fox news will claim all those killed as terrorists and paint the forces as heroes.A much more dangerous form of bias in my view.

bolshevik butcher
3rd August 2005, 22:54
Oh yeh i agree, id say al jazeera was on a par with cnn rather than fox whihc is just propoganda.

YoUnG192
3rd August 2005, 22:56
if the U.S bombs a building in Iraq, al-jazeera will report it as U.S aggression and may overestimate the number of iraqis killed, but fox news will claim all those killed as terrorists and paint the forces as heroes.A much more dangerous form of bias in my view.

Very true indeed. I think they are both very biased but Fox News is very dangerous. What do you guys think of the Al-Jazeera english news channel that will be come out soon in the U.S?

SocialismIsCentrist
5th August 2005, 02:27
well i noticed the murder in nottingham on the news.

perhaps an axe murder is 'sexier' news wise. its also probably good to avoid mentioning racist backlashes against muslims. i do not suggest that murdering of muslims in racist attacks is anywhere less horrid - but such news widely broadcast may affect a great many peoples feelings negatively.

monkeydust
5th August 2005, 10:39
I know someone who knows someone who knows the axe murderer.

I think the whole event goes to show that, contrary to what we like to think, racism is not dying away in the UK. Sadly, it seems to be more prominent among the working classes than middle classes in my experience. With the exception of me and one other guy, every one of the blokes I work with is a raving racist.

Bannockburn
5th August 2005, 12:54
What I want to know is why is this murder (rightfully) getting the whole attention of the press, yet when a Muslim man was murdered in a racist attack in my home city of Nottingham there was virtually no coverage?

Not really surprising. We can take another example within the United States. If there is a white kidnapped girl, CNN will broadcast it everyday all day, every minute or every second. If its a black girl, or a hispanic girl - not a mention. Statisics also show that they are more likely to be kidnapped than whites. The coverage then is completely out of line.

Concerning news “objectivity”. Its all complete nonsense. In fact the way new agencies are designed, and link to the capitalist system already infers that their main motivation is profit and not dissemination of news.

Fox news is bias. In fact, they have repeatedly critique by news organizations such as fair and balanced. I didn't see control room as showing in bias concerning Al-J. In fact, it seemed to reduce my skepticism concerning it. However, look at outfoxed. You can't deny statistics, and when something like 89% of the viewers think Saddam used WMD's on American troops you know something is up.

Donnie
5th August 2005, 13:47
It's shocking that someone could do such a thing. This is why it's important to have anti-fascist ideas and actions at local levels. The police don't seem to do anything to stop racism and people getting attacked! Why? Because it serves their big boss's. Divide and rule is what they want. It's time we created a big anti-fascist presence in our local communities.

h&s
5th August 2005, 14:12
Not really surprising. We can take another example within the United States. If there is a white kidnapped girl, CNN will broadcast it everyday all day, every minute or every second. If its a black girl, or a hispanic girl - not a mention. Statisics also show that they are more likely to be kidnapped than whites. The coverage then is completely out of line.

Yes but both victims were from ethnic minorities.
I suppose the Stephen Lawrence connection is the reason, and according to some comrades, as the Notts Police is knee-deep in shit, they've tried to keep it as low-key as possible.