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Floyd.
13th November 2002, 01:25
When Prseident Fidel Castro dies the U.S. Government will rush into Cuba and try to take power of the country. The Democrats and Capitalists in Cuba are a clear minority, however the U.S. will try to hand them an undeserving throne. With one of his top men going against him in recent years the Question is who can take over from Fidel to TRULY lead Cuba. Those are big shoes to fill.

nz revolution
13th November 2002, 01:51
It shouldnt be Raul, or it will seem like it is a family dynasty.

I dont know much about the Cuban ministers, but a bloody Stalinist better not take over...

ComradeJunichi
13th November 2002, 02:02
I'M NOT SURE ON THIS ONE EITHER. I THINK RAUL WOULD BE NEXT, NOT BECAUSE OF A FAMILY DYNASTY BUT MAYBE HE'S THE BEST MAN FOR IT. WASN'T HE PART OF THE BIG 3, CHE, FIDEL, RAUL? HOPEFULLY NOTHING HORRIBLY WRONG WILL HAPPEN. I'M SURE THERE WILL BE SOME TURMOIL AT FIRST, BUT IT WILL SETTLE NICELY.

Floyd.
13th November 2002, 02:07
Raul is only a minister not a successor. The Cuban people love their Government but the situation is volatile with an imposing US threat. Long live the Revolution. Castro you are strong in our minds. I can only seek solice in the fact that we will live to see the events unfold and that our words will be spoken and our speeches heard. I hate to encourage sectarianism but can't everyone just be left to themselves and not have others inerfere; it follows the idea that if you don't like it you don't have to watch. Can't the U.S. Government just fuck off. It's not the country that's wrong but the mentality the children are being raised with.

I Bow 4 Che
13th November 2002, 02:17
I say we ressurrect Che...:)

Who's with me???

Palmares
13th November 2002, 06:47
Ressurrect Che? Though he was a great man, there are far more suitable people who could take such a position. I do not believe that the situation for Cuba is dire, but of there are underlying risks. Raul would not be a suitable 'successor', in the sense that time is very much against such a move. Fidel has various comrades who could possibly be his 'heir', but I do not wish Cuba to be ruled by dynasties, not for long anyhow.
Cuba is far from the US' number one priority at the moment, though they have made some strange allegations against our comrades. What I find to be Cuba's main problem is getting out of the transitional stage of revolution that it is in. Obviously this is primarily contributed to the US sanctions (among other things), but if we do not get out of this situation soon, all may be lost. So, in a sense, Castro's death could spell the end. This would be a good time to find out about Fidel's ministers, family, and so forth who may now hold the key to the future.

MJM
13th November 2002, 08:54
I agree it shouldn't be raul.
There must be someone young there who could do the job.

nz revolution
13th November 2002, 09:03
NZers Unite...

Im sure Raul would be very capable but he is also old.

Power to the children of the revolution, if they cant do it then who can?

you guys know the song, lets all sing "... I believe the children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way..."

Panamarisen
13th November 2002, 17:55
I agree with Cthenthar in the sense that Cuba is in a transitional moment today, specially because of the embargo: Cubans obviously get tired finally to not be able to live in a better economical situation, so many of them eventually start hating the Revolution. Hope international pressure put an end to the embargo soon.

Guess the Cuban Government knows very well who´ll be next after Castro...

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

Navid Communist
13th November 2002, 21:43
Someone that is young but still very good as leder is what we need in Cuba after our great friend Castro

Revolution Hero
13th November 2002, 21:46
US wouldn't be able to establish their puppet government in Cuba. If White House dares ,then it will be defeated.



(Edited by Revolution Hero at 8:06 am on Nov. 14, 2002)

Jaha
13th November 2002, 21:57
i think castro's death would be a great opening to make the next step towards communism. i mean, communism does not include dictators.

Corvus Corax
13th November 2002, 23:25
I think in the remaining years our comrade Castro has left a strong idea will emerge to who is to take over. If it isn't clear now, it will be soon, and i'm sure Castro won't make a bad choice.

Som
14th November 2002, 00:20
I dont think theres very much wrong with Raul taking over next, it wouldn't be a family dynasty really, its that Raul has always been second in command, or at least at the very top of the government. Though he is an old man as well, and wouldnt last long.

I read one of the members here say that raul was supposed to sponsor democratic elections, though i doubt thats true.

After Raul theres likely a heirarchy of command, generals, ministers and such, that'll replace him fine.

While i doubt it will become a U.S. owned puppet state again, whats more likely is that the future leaders of the communist party will become more like china and vietnam, less ideological, and more interested in keeping their power than the welfare of their citizens, and they will likely become more capitalist, a process that has vaguely started already.

Panamarisen
14th November 2002, 00:38
I hope not, but maybe you´re right, Som. Kind of capitalist way of managing economy looks like it´s beginning to start in Cuba today. Hope we´re wrong. Hope the Revolution ideology, as wise as it was, doesn´t get to an end..., at the end!

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

Alejandro C
14th November 2002, 07:52
Raul is after Fidel. he was asked about it in his last interviewwith bawbwa walters. the problem with that is, raul is also in his seventies! i'm sure the situation will be similar to china in which they put in power people that were on the long march, until everyone had died off. then a new 'breed' of leaders was brought in. The sucession will probably continue with people that were actually in the revolution.

BARBUDO
14th November 2002, 20:18
At least it WON'T be MasCanosa! May he rot in hell!

Floyd.
15th November 2002, 04:59
It has been apparent since the beginning of the revolution that Raul would be the Sucessor after Fidel, although that it is often misquoted as being Che. They were the three revolutionary figures, so it goes without saying that in the death of one another would take command. Although I recently read on the official site of the Cuban Government that Castro had been grooming one of his party members to be his most likely sucessor. I however cannot remember the name of this man, the point I have been leading up to is that he did something along the lines of having a communicae with the CIA and betraying Fidel. So I pose my question, not being so much as to who will take over the command post but.... Who will stop the U.S. from establishing a puppet Government. Cuba do not pose much of a threat to the U.S.; firstly because of their size in terms of population and area, secondly their military is not comparable with the U.S. but most importantly who will stop George Warmoger Bush? I read recently that Bush had been quoted as calling Castro "an evil man, who needs to be stopped."
May God help us all.... No wait
There is no God to help us all
May we help ourselves and our fellow brothers
-Myself

Revolution Hero
15th November 2002, 12:42
Quote: from Comrade La Vista on 2:59 pm on Nov. 15, 2002
Who will stop the U.S. from establishing a puppet Government.


Two answers, which are applicable to two different cases:
1. If CIA tries to interfere into the political processes of Cuba, then it will get the answer from Cuban population, the majority of which supports socialistic regime.
2. If the US will dare to start the war, then UN will stop it, just like it did in the case with Iraq.

Sulla the Dictator
15th November 2002, 12:55
Quote: from Comrade La Vista on 9:25 am on Nov. 13, 2002
When Prseident Fidel Castro dies the U.S. Government will rush into Cuba and try to take power of the country. The Democrats and Capitalists in Cuba are a clear minority, however the U.S. will try to hand them an undeserving throne. With one of his top men going against him in recent years the Question is who can take over from Fidel to TRULY lead Cuba. Those are big shoes to fill.


Raul will take over, and be toppled by the people because he lacks not only Castro's personality, but his restraint.

It is funny to call Capitalists and Democrats a minority in Cuba....

...When admission to being such gets them ostracized at best, imprisoned at worst.

It is immoral to create a police state. It is unjust to silence opposition. It is atrocious when those who do both claim to support equality and 'the worker'.

Floyd.
19th November 2002, 22:37
Sulla the Dictator I address you:

The people of Cuba have no reason to stay there if they do not like the circumstances, the gates are open for them to leave as long as it is done legally and with a passprt. And secondly I was not just calling the Democrats and Capitalists in Cuba a minority in relation to their population of over 11 million, I was also referring to them as a political minority, which they are. There is not an established Democratic party in Cuba not because it is discouraged but because support for such a thing wains. The few Democrats there are get more than enough media attention thanks to the U.S. Government. It was not as if I were making a wild statement but merely stating observation and interpretation followed by questions. The things which I say I will usually stae if it is an opinion rather than physical fact. For you to pick my words apart with not reason but inflammatory emotion, I take a personal attack on me. I have no quarrel with you, you are my comrade and my brother, please do not create truble with me when I do not seek it.

Panamarisen
19th November 2002, 22:54
Quote: from Sulla the Dictator on 11:55 am on Nov. 15, 2002

Quote: from Comrade La Vista on 9:25 am on Nov. 13, 2002
When Prseident Fidel Castro dies the U.S. Government will rush into Cuba and try to take power of the country. The Democrats and Capitalists in Cuba are a clear minority, however the U.S. will try to hand them an undeserving throne. With one of his top men going against him in recent years the Question is who can take over from Fidel to TRULY lead Cuba. Those are big shoes to fill.


Raul will take over, and be toppled by the people because he lacks not only Castro's personality, but his restraint.

It is funny to call Capitalists and Democrats a minority in Cuba....

...When admission to being such gets them ostracized at best, imprisoned at worst.

It is immoral to create a police state. It is unjust to silence opposition. It is atrocious when those who do both claim to support equality and 'the worker'.


So, finally, why do you call yourself "the Dictator"?

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

Floyd.
19th November 2002, 23:31
Panamarisen I like you, you display a good sense of humour and made a witty and succint point, I applaude you. Since I am lazy and most profiles don't have anything where do you come from and does it have relevance to your name are you from Panama?

Twistedsoul
20th November 2002, 01:41
raul will take over, if he last longer then castro, but who take over next i ahve no clue, but have a slight feeling it could be bloody

Palmares
20th November 2002, 03:19
Felix, noone said the transition to communism/socialism would be without faults, and Raul is not nearly as bad as you say. If we went along with what you are implying us to do, the last hope of socialism will be destroyed. Fidel has done the best he could considering the difficult circumstances he has been confronted with. Can you not understand that there is such a thing as a good dictator, considering your name? Albeit, Castro is better, but that's just my opinion. Finally, I must stress that I too wish there was democracy in Cuba, but it cannot work in the current situation. It is either a democracy with the US up our arse, or despotism with the US trying to get up our arse.

Panamarisen
20th November 2002, 17:26
Quote: from Comrade La Vista on 10:31 pm on Nov. 19, 2002
Panamarisen I like you, you display a good sense of humour and made a witty and succint point, I applaude you. Since I am lazy and most profiles don't have anything where do you come from and does it have relevance to your name are you from Panama?




Thank you very much, Comrade!

Although I was born in Madrid (Spain), where I actually live, I grew up in Panama, so I feel myself as 100% Panamanian.
Father is Spanish, but mother was Panamanian; her mother is from Martinique ( a French island in the Caribbean, although she is an almost pure sij Indian), and his father was Indian-blooded , born in Jamaica.
So, guess I´m quite a racial mixture ;)

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

DeathToAmerica
20th November 2002, 17:40
Why don't we let the Cuban people decide? Cuba is in fact democratic! Fuck, are we all dictating who will be in power after Castro?

Twistedsoul
20th November 2002, 20:38
Quote: from DeathToAmerica on 5:40 pm on Nov. 20, 2002
Why don't we let the Cuban people decide? Cuba is in fact democratic! Fuck, are we all dictating who will be in power after Castro?

this is not dictacing, we are merly guessing at to what will happen. no1 will know for sure untill it happens