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Ele'ill
1st August 2005, 17:36
Wouldn't it be nice to see another large demonstration that actually accomplished something? Sort of like n30 but with a big twist.

Theodore J. Kaczynski
1st August 2005, 17:57
You mean, like 9/11?

Ele'ill
1st August 2005, 18:56
No. Not like 9/11. That wasn&#39;t a demonstration. Well yeah I guess it was but it got their country(s) invaded and many civilians killed on both sides. I just want another n30 : <

silentprotest
1st August 2005, 22:32
extrapelate on what you mean by n30, i havnt head of it

Anarchist Freedom
1st August 2005, 22:36
Wikipedia: WTO Meeting of 1999 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTO_Fighting_of_1999)

Ele'ill
2nd August 2005, 22:46
;) :o :lol: <_<

Battle of seattle. Showdown in seattle. &#39;Five days that shook the WTO&#39;
N30 stands for november 30th (1999) and it was quite impressive. It was the 90&#39;s throwing a going away party for itself.

Publius
3rd August 2005, 01:46
Why do you hate the working class?

They love globalization. They think it&#39;s helpful to them.

But don&#39;t let me take your martyr off the cross or anything, we wouldn&#39;t want facts and the opinions of the poor to matter, we have an ideology to pimp.

Theodore J. Kaczynski
3rd August 2005, 02:28
Socialism/Communism is always for globalization, regardless of what they will tell you. They want a world where everyone is a communist, culture and freedom be damned.

KC
3rd August 2005, 03:59
Socialism/Communism is always for globalization, regardless of what they will tell you. They want a world where everyone is a communist, culture and freedom be damned.

Communism is an economic system.

Ele'ill
3rd August 2005, 04:08
Why do you hate the working class?

They love globalization. They think it&#39;s helpful to them.

I wouldn&#39;t say the working class loves globalization.
What country? How can you be sure the majority loves it? And as a side question what do you all consider the working class?

spartafc
3rd August 2005, 04:45
Wouldn&#39;t it be nice to see another large demonstration that actually accomplished something? Sort of like n30 but with a big twist.

Demonstrations are nice, but a small section of militant protestors can&#39;t change the capitalist system. Yeah - they can be a good way to raise our demands.




....Why do you hate the working class?
They love globalization. They think it&#39;s helpful to them.

poor humour, I presume.
If not - you should go and join the workers in these countries perhaps. Though I&#39;m not sure if the idea that globalisation is "helpful" for them will be very popular in alot of those Latin American countries, comrade&#33; ;)

The Garbage Disposal Unit
3rd August 2005, 07:01
Originally posted by Theodore J. [email protected] 3 2005, 01:28 AM
Socialism/Communism is always for globalization, regardless of what they will tell you. They want a world where everyone is a communist, culture and freedom be damned.
A world where eveyone is actively and consciously a communist?
Sure, it&#39;s a nice idea, but unrealistic. A world where communism allows everyone to live their lives and participate meaningfully in real situations? Hell yes&#33;

Communists are very much in favour of globalization - in favour of meaningful exchange without borders, without intolerence, without neo-colonialism. What communists, and progressively minded people in general, oppose is Corporate Globalism and squeezing the third world to support the decadence of the first.




Oh, seriously though, fuck culture.

Ele'ill
3rd August 2005, 07:24
I don&#39;t consider anything after n30 to be significant at all. So what I mean is why has the population suddenly become content?

Theodore J. Kaczynski
3rd August 2005, 23:32
But neither your latest comment nor anything you&#39;ve said previously has any relationship to what the left is actually like...even at its worst.

You simply have no idea of what you are blathering about.

And this very assertion would be up to debate had you not locked my thread; you seem to be very convinced this is true, but very unwilling to defend your position. A dissonance of cognitions, perhaps?

And nothing is addressed concering censorship.

OleMarxco
5th August 2005, 21:54
Well, in fact, it is, I will take up this cup..and the sword&#33; ;)
Ipso factos, the thread was not locked because "we" (I don&#39;t identify myself with leftists as a group, but, what-the-heck, I stand up for&#39;em, o&#39;right? As invidual inside-or-out of it.) were afraid to get "exposed" by havin&#39; no answres to your arguments, but because 1. Of the topic&#39;s didn&#39;t have a debate, the second, as I see it, were a smearin&#39;-thread, and the &#39;debate&#39; in there weren&#39;t a debate but a conversation. So, though call. As for the censorship, yes, I&#39;d like less "censorship", but as far as I can see, everyone can view the topic&#39;s still, so it&#39;s not to &#39;hide&#39; dissent, but it&#39;s just to stop the talkin&#39; of it. Simple :D