spreading the word

[Qwerty Dvorak]

ok, so i live in wexford in ireland and am an avid supporter of communism. of course, i try to spread this belief as much as possible, but in my school the top three responses to anything besides explicit proposals from attractive members of the opposite sex are:
1. thats gay
2. you're gay
3. fuck off, ya queer

so, any tips on getting through to these fine upstanding people?

[slim]

Tell them about James Connelly and how he martyred himself so that your classmates can enjoy their freedom now. That connelly was a communist and that without him the possibility of a republic would be very slim.

Thats bound to appeal to some.

[Pawn Power]

I do not think those are the inital people you want to come on to. Try people that are more intelligent people that are open minded.

[slim]

No offence but i dont think you fully know the situation in Ireland and the people. The events of 1916 are legend.

[resisting arrest with violence]

How about showing a documentary film festival of sorts in your school? Make a school revolutionary club where you show videos of good films like the "Mototrcycle Diaries", "Salvador", "Steal This Movie", "Fidel" (2002) etc. You can also pass around this link


http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 12:03 PM
No offence but i dont think you fully know the situation in Ireland and the people. The events of 1916 are legend.
So what are you saying, there are no open minded and intelligent people in Ireland?

I don't live there but I am shur that is not the case.

[Donnie]

You want to slip ideas in when you're in conversation about something political. Don't say I'm a card carrying member of the Communist Party of Ireland or something along that line.

Just slip little stuff in about the benefits of Communism, say stuff like “Well, in a classless stateless society....” That will get people listening.

Saying you’re a flagrant Communist before you say you're political opinion will just get you views unheard. What you need to do is explain you’re view then if people say you may have something and they ask you what political ideology you advocate then say you’re a communist or anarchist, or what ever you are.

I tend to just slip things in now and then and that gets peoples attention. :)

[violencia.Proletariat]

I agree with donnie, most teen agers, the ones i know, dont care about politics or leftists politics specifically. what i find might be more helpful is to point out hypocracy in their everyday routine, get them thinking. or if its at school and they complain about something a teacher said, or a rule, theres your chance. But even if this doesnt work, dont worry, your not the only one who hasnt had any luck.

[Seeker]

I agree with Donnie as well. Discuss policy, while avoiding labels. People will be more inclined to listen and think if you can slip your information into the natural conversation. Every "hmm, that's not a bad idea" you get takes us one step closer.

For example, some friends of mine were discussing a wasteful government policy the other day and I mentioned that without government stuff like that would not happen. One of them, a self-labeled "conservative" agreed with me, and the conversation turned into a re-invention of anarchism. Had I used that word however, the "conservative" would not have participated.

[Vallegrande]

A friend I knew in high school was reading a book on Che, and I didn't have a clue at that time what he was reading about, until a couple years later. I remember one of the classmates ask him "if there was a war between Mexico and the U.S. which side would you take?" He just answered "Mexico", and the other guy was saying how the US would use planes and bombs and such to win, and that Mexico was basically weak. I laugh now thinking about it, because it was such a podunk town, no one had the faintest idea of history or what was being taught for that matter in high school. That period of life is where history is skewed and you have to research on your own.

[anomaly]

First, perhaps ask these people why they are so blatantly homophobic.

Then, I suggest do what Donnie has suggested. These people are obviously not too interested in politics, so the best thing to do would be to, as subtlely as possible, slip in some basic advantages of a classless society. If someone says 'damn, I've no money', you can slip in 'well, that wouldn't be a problem in a communist society'. With all the emphasis on 'money' in a capitalist society, and the hardship it causes, any ways of getting things 'for free' are sure to attract the desired attention.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

good comrades.
eh i think i'll try that, subtley slipping words in, and as for the homophob situation, i think there is some aspects of society better left un-explored.

[slim]

Originally posted by Revolution is the Solution+Aug 4 2005, 06:36 PM--> (Revolution is the Solution @ Aug 4 2005, 06:36 PM)
[email protected] 4 2005, 12:03 PM
No offence but i dont think you fully know the situation in Ireland and the people. The events of 1916 are legend.
So what are you saying, there are no open minded and intelligent people in Ireland?

I don't live there but I am shur that is not the case. [/b]
These are good ideas that i think you should follow. Back to the quote for a sec. People in Ireland are not unintelligent or close minded. Its just the way it is with 1916. A sort of cultural historical call to arms.

[Mastermind]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 02:16 PM
ok, so i live in wexford in ireland and am an avid supporter of communism. of course, i try to spread this belief as much as possible, but in my school the top three responses to anything besides explicit proposals from attractive members of the opposite sex are:
1. thats gay
2. you're gay
3. fuck off, ya queer

so, any tips on getting through to these fine upstanding people?
even though they are very wrong, your still gay

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Originally posted by slim+Aug 10 2005, 07:09 PM--> (slim @ Aug 10 2005, 07:09 PM)
Originally posted by Revolution is the [email protected] 4 2005, 06:36 PM

[email protected] 4 2005, 12:03 PM
No offence but i dont think you fully know the situation in Ireland and the people. The events of 1916 are legend.
So what are you saying, there are no open minded and intelligent people in Ireland?

I don't live there but I am shur that is not the case.
These are good ideas that i think you should follow. Back to the quote for a sec. People in Ireland are not unintelligent or close minded. Its just the way it is with 1916. A sort of cultural historical call to arms. [/b]
yes, but i like that idea of reffering to james connolly, the socialist. to many irish, the 1916 rising and the ensuing war of independence mean freedom, just like castro's revolution means freedom for cubans. and both had a large socialist following. i think this would be how to win over those strong nationalist types who, if they dont get their shit together, will end up being a bunch of bitter racists.


even though they are very wrong, your still gay


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