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symtoms_of_humanity
30th July 2005, 05:07
What would happen, would it be dispanded, or would it still be funded, what would happen if the military was dispanded but the country(or w/e you call it) got attacked how do you respond?
Clarksist
30th July 2005, 05:26
There would be more of a "people's militia" consisting of volunteers who protect.
There would have to be elected leaders, as the military isn't very functionable on a completely egalitarian system.
Other than that, the military wouldn't really be needed to be as strong because most Socialist countries wouldn't become communistic till many countries had.
Together the fleet of communist societies would conjoin and have more and more units. This way no army would have an easy time just "toppling over" the people's militia.
symtoms_of_humanity
30th July 2005, 05:37
How would this Militia be funded, the workers just handing out the weapons they make?
Organic Revolution
30th July 2005, 05:38
i think it would be a system of militias and community guards, other than that a military is inherintly imperialistic.
Clarksist
30th July 2005, 05:41
Originally posted by
[email protected] 29 2005, 10:37 PM
How would this Militia be funded, the workers just handing out the weapons they make?
Just like everything else udner communism, its based to what you need.
So yes, the workers would "hand out the weapons they made" to those who are in need of the weapons.
symtoms_of_humanity
30th July 2005, 06:03
would bombs still be made along with tanks and airplanes(I don't think nukes would be right?) but what of battleships and what i said earlier in this post
Clarksist
30th July 2005, 06:12
would bombs still be made along with tanks and airplanes(I don't think nukes would be right?) but what of battleships and what i said earlier in this post
The conditions of the world would be the definitive factor.
If capitalists were coming with tanks, I'm pretty sure we'd AT LEAST be making counter-measures. But to be completely honest, no one can know until the time comes.
Djehuti
30th July 2005, 14:02
We will fight. But the victor will not be determined by who has the most rifles. The military dimension is never central when talking about revolution. And we do talk about revolution, we cannot aford a revolution turned into some stupid war or civil war.
Our greatest weapon is not some new fancy missile, but our role as commodified beings who no longer can and no longer want to exist as commodities. We will fight with weapons, but our victory will depend on how well we overthrow capitalism. We will have to put trust in our comrades in other places of the world and at the other side of the rifle. War only destroys the revolution.
afnan
30th July 2005, 20:36
Originally posted by
[email protected] 30 2005, 04:07 AM
What would happen, would it be dispanded, or would it still be funded, what would happen if the military was dispanded but the country(or w/e you call it) got attacked how do you respond?
I do not think that that will ever happen. Communism got to spread in the whole world.
What is the reason for the war in the world of today. They happen primarily due to economic reasons. If there is not expolitation then I don't think there will be any war among the the countries. In a communist world there will be no wars.
However, the possibility of wars can not be ruled out during the transitory period. During socialism, some countries will be socialist while others will be capitalists. The capitalists will use all their efforts to reverse the revolution. During that time, I think, the socialist need to maintain a military strength. The socialist countries must maintain their military strenght till the revolution spreads around the world. After that this military can slowly disintegrate.
Donnie
30th July 2005, 20:42
What would happen, would it be dispanded, or would it still be funded, what would happen if the military was dispanded but the country(or w/e you call it) got attacked how do you respond?
First of all in a communist society there would be no such thing as countries only communities, there shall be no borders!
Also why would another community attack? Because each community in a certain area would be dependent on each other and so the logical thing would be to voluntarily cooperate. For example think of the human body, now each body part resembles a community so for example the heart represents one community and the brain represents another community and the blood represents another community now in the human body you cannot live without a heart because the brain is dependent on the heart to pump blood to the brain and the heart is dependent on the blood to carry oxygen to the heart but also the blood is dependent on the brain to direct the pumping because without the brain the blood cannot pump also the heart is dependent on the brain to help it function. Now can you see that one community cannot function properly without the other because each community may produce something that another community can’t like coal for example? Now you begin to see that communities would voluntarily co-operate without dominance because they are dependent on each other just like the body’s organs are dependent on each other and neither dominates because all are important just like communities. So now you ask why would another community attack? Well they wouldn’t would they, because they’d need the other communities to help function properly.
There would not be any military or police force in a communist society because as we know the root of most crimes is resulted from private property and state oppression. Obviously there are going to be the odd few crimes due to drink etc, but this is nothing a community can't handle. If there is a murder in the village then the person caught by the community would be psychologically and socially assessed to find the root of the problem. But most people that kill would hardly be considered stable, would you? Therefore we need to think why would this person murder? Maybe because as a child something happened to them, or maybe it's a social problem, who knows! For one thing there would be no prisons in a communist society people would be rehabilitated and not the sick joke we have now where there is the "rehabilitation through the prison system".
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