Transitional Period

[symtoms_of_humanity]

If I belive in a transitional period from Capitalism to Communism/Anarchism, what does that make me a Communism or Anarchist. At first I thought of myself as an Anarchist but then thought that people would need to be eased into working a certain way and living a certain way, rather than thier lives being abruptly changed, thanks for your help

[Led Zeppelin]

That would make you a Communist/Marxist.

[Clarksist]

As Marxism-Leninism pointed out, you would be a Marxist. However, under Marxism there are SEVERAL different idealist sects and different "ism"s within "ism"s (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, anybody?).

Hell, if you don't believe in revolution, your a Social Democrat.

The important thing, is to read AS MUCH as possible and write AS MUCH as possible. Expand your mind and become you, and not just an "ist" of an "ism".

[violencia.Proletariat]

meh it doesnt make you one or the other because even with anarchism there will still be a transitionary period to get to communism, just not with the "dictatorship of the proletariat"

[bombeverything]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 03:51 AM
If I belive in a transitional period from Capitalism to Communism/Anarchism, what does that make me a Communism or Anarchist. At first I thought of myself as an Anarchist but then thought that people would need to be eased into working a certain way and living a certain way, rather than thier lives being abruptly changed, thanks for your help

What exactly do you mean by "transitional period"? I guess you just have to work that out and the rest should follow. Communism and anarchism are the same thing.

:)

[symtoms_of_humanity]

by transitional period I mean a time where people are eased into the new way of Communism, you can't just expect life to abruptly change, people won't accept it, it needs to be eased into, people need to slowly start to function without the gov. and such gov. programs

[CEWS]

You could be an anarchist or a commie.

[bombeverything]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 06:03 PM
by transitional period I mean a time where people are eased into the new way of Communism, you can't just expect life to abruptly change, people won't accept it, it needs to be eased into, people need to slowly start to function without the gov. and such gov. programs

So you believe there is a need for centralised authority during this period? If so, that would probably make you a Marxist [in the broad sense of the term].

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 02:03 PM
by transitional period I mean a time where people are eased into the new way of Communism, you can't just expect life to abruptly change, people won't accept it, it needs to be eased into, people need to slowly start to function without the gov. and such gov. programs
thats not specific enough. do you believe in class supression, etc?

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Originally posted by nate+Jul 31 2005, 01:53 AM--> (nate @ Jul 31 2005, 01:53 AM)
[email protected] 30 2005, 02:03 PM
by transitional period I mean a time where people are eased into the new way of Communism, you can't just expect life to abruptly change, people won't accept it, it needs to be eased into, people need to slowly start to function without the gov. and such gov. programs
thats not specific enough. do you believe in class supression, etc? [/b]
I don't know, maybe surpression fo the upper class, btu thats about it, becuase supressing people would turn them against you, but the rich wouldn't go without a fight

[Clarksist]

I don't know, maybe surpression fo the upper class, btu thats about it, becuase supressing people would turn them against you, but the rich wouldn't go without a fight


Absolute, definite, you are a broad Marxist.

Not a bad thing. Just read many Marxist writers with their own "ism"s as many are just interpretting Marx in their writing, and not adding to it.

[KC]

You sound like a marxist that believes in socialism as a transitional society.

[Red Heretic]

The Marxist usage of the term transitional period refers to the understanding that a stateless society cannot coexist with imperialist states, and advocates that it is necessary to maintain a socialist state until the masses have conquered the entire world through individual revolutions within each country all around the world.

Dialectics tells us that when the fundamental contradiction that created the state (that is, the contradiction between nations) is resolved, then the state will whither away, serve no purpose, and cease to exist.

[anomaly]

...or we could just skip this so-called 'transitional period' (which, historically, has always been a permanent period). Any stateless society can coexist with imperial states so long as the stateless society has the means to defend itself (in other words, so long as it has guns and a people's militia to use these guns).

[KC]

Any stateless society can coexist with imperial states so long as the stateless society has the means to defend itself (in other words, so long as it has guns and a people's militia to use these guns).

The state would have to be massive to the point where it can supply its citizens with EVERYTHING needed.

[anomaly]

What state? The stateless society? It wouldn't have to be massive. I think it would need to be quite small, actually, so that it truly can provide everyone with everything needed.