Cheney makes plans to nuke Iran

[southernmissfan]

http://amconmag.com/2005_08_01/article3.html


In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq are preparing to do the same for Iran. The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack—but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections.

http://www.justinlogan.com/justinlogancom/...is_the_pla.html (http://www.justinlogan.com/justinlogancom/2005/07/what_is_the_pla.html)


Especially considering that several of the hardened suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites are in the middle of Tehran? So does this mean we are going to nuke the capital of Iran? And in this case would we parachute in exiles to run the place afterward, or attempt a colonial administration? What effect would the radioactive fallout have on our decision?


http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2005/lar_pac...uns_august.html (http://larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2005/lar_pac/050727guns_august.html)


Lyndon LaRouche, on this Wednesday afternoon, issued an international alert, covering the period of August 2005, which is the likely timeframe for Vice President Dick Cheney, with the full collusion of the circles of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, to unleash the recently exposed plans to stage a preemptive tactical nuclear strike against Iran. The danger of such a mad, Hitler-in-the-bunker action from the Cheney circles would be even further heightened, were the United States Congress to stick with its present schedule, and go into recess on July 30 until September 4. With Congress out of Washington, the Cheney-led White House would almost certainly unleash a "Guns of August" attack on Iran.

You can continue to follow the blogosphere ring if you want more commentary, as it goes on and on.

Honestly, despite the brutal, shocking, horrible nature of this, I can't say that I'm surprised. In fact, this sounds like the same shit these guys have been spewing for decades.

Please, post this everywhere you can. If you have a blog, post it there. If you visit any political websites, e-mail it to them. If you listen to a left-wing radio network, e-mail it to them or call in.

These people are bigger terrorists than "them there Mooslem al-keedas" could ever dream of being.

[Karl Marx's Camel]

In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq

Americans have a hard time understanding that Iraq actually existed before the invasion on Iraq?

[southernmissfan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2005, 11:47 PM

In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq

Americans have a hard time understanding that Iraq actually existed before the invasion on Iraq?
What? Are you serious? The quote was referring to the war in Iraq, which I thought was pretty obvious...

[afnan]

I don't think that US will even try to wage war against Iran... The people of Iran support their government more than people of Iraq supported there.

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 10:52 AM
I don't think that US will even try to wage war against Iran... The people of Iran support their government more than people of Iraq supported there.
I was going to say the people wouldn't have it either, but that's easily suppressed, as we know.

[Organic Revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 08:52 AM
I don't think that US will even try to wage war against Iran... The people of Iran support their government more than people of Iraq supported there.
you think that accually maters tol the neo-cons? all they want is new lands, new people to control, new oil to feed the money hungry, SUV owning upper class. what ever it takes to keep the US as a 'superpower of the world, they will do, as we have seen. the us is not opposed to slaughtering every last iranian.

[piet11111]

:blink: i knew that bush & co. are criminally insane and love to send poeple to their death in wars that benefit their corporate sponsors but this is just the kind of thing that should get governments impeached.

but because its america im expecting the worst.

[Anarchist Freedom]

Nuking iran..... :(

[Colombia]

I would not be surprised if the USA started a war with Iran, but I doubt they will go as far as using nuclear weapons. They have normal bombs the size of Nagasaki these days. If they were to use nukes, foreign relations would drop from even their European allies. Thar is something they cannot afford to lose.

[Bannockburn]

Actually they've already started:


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US Openly Supports Iranian Terrorists E-mail this
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William Van Wagenen, Electronic Iraq, 27 July 2005

The U.S. Government is now openly supporting the Mujahideen-e-Khalq, an Iranian resistance movement designated as terrorist organization by the US State Department. On June 20th of this year, the Mujahideen-e-Khalq held a conference at the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad, which is where many foreign journalists stay and is under the full protection of the U.S. Army. I was in the area of the hotel that day, and saw at least 10 U.S. tanks heading in the direction of the hotel to provide additional security. I knew of the conference in advance, because of a report issued to all NGO's working in Iraq, which mentioned that the conference would take place. The report warned of an increased danger of attacks against the hotel, as anti- U.S. insurgents were likely to attempt to disrupt the conference [1].

The Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK) is a Marxist oriented Iranian resistance organization founded in the 1960's to topple the pro- western regime of Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. Since that time, MEK has carried out scores of attacks and assassinated a number of Iranian government officials. MEK killed several American military and civilian personnel in Iran during the 1970's, and assisted in the occupation of the US embassy in Tehran in 1979 where American civilians were held hostage. Though MEK participated in the 1979 revolution, which toppled the Shah, once the Ayatollah Khomeini consolidated power in Iran, MEK moved their headquarters to Paris and continued resistance activities against the Islamic Republic. In 1981, MEK bombed the offices of the Islamic Republic Party, killing 70 high-ranking Iranian officials. MEK established its military headquarters in Iraq in 1986, where Saddam Hussein became their main source of funding and protection. In return, the MEK fought alongside Iraqi forces during the war against Iran in the 1980's, and assisted Saddam's security forces in putting down the Kurdish and Shiite revolts after the first Gulf War in 1991. The majority of Saddam's recently discovered mass graves are filled with the Shiite and Kurdish dead from this uprising. MEK military operations against Iranian targets continued through the 1990's. The U.S. Department of State added the MEK to its official list of terrorist organizations in 1997, and shut down the organization's Washington, DC office in 2003 [2].

During the U.S. invasion of Iraq, MEK forces in Iraq surrendered to U.S. forces and turned over their military hard wear, including several thousand tanks, armored personnel carriers, anti-aircraft guns, and other vehicles. Despite denying suspected terrorists from Afghanistan and elsewhere prisoner of war status under the Geneva conventions, the US granted this status to detained members of MEK in Iraq [3].

Support for the MEK reveals one of the advantages the U.S. has acquired by occupying Iraq. The country can now be used as a staging post for carrying out attacks against regimes hostile to U.S. interests in the region, whether through proxy organizations such as MEK, or by attacking such countries directly by dispatching U.S. forces based on Iraqi soil. U.S. planners are currently somewhat constrained from using the latter option due to the difficulty they face in pacifying Iraq, so the first option, namely supporting terrorist organizations that are trying to destabilize the Iranian regime, will likely be their preferred course of action until U.S. control of Iraq is fully consolidated.

So when Paul Wolfowitz promised Iraqis in 2003 that the US would hunt down the "monsters" that assisted Saddam in digging the mass graves in 1991 [4], the Bush administration was in fact just beginning its support for some of the direct perpetrators of these crimes. Also revealing is U.S. criticism of the new Iranian president elect, due to his alleged involvement in holding U.S. embassy personnel hostage in 1979. Though the U.S. admits the MEK was involved in the same incident, White House support for this terrorist organization continues. This kind of hypocrisy reveals much about what the global "war on terror" is really about. It's not a war against terror as such, but rather a war of terror to subdue resistance to the US designs in the region.

[mo7amEd]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 02:52 PM
I don't think that US will even try to wage war against Iran... The people of Iran support their government more than people of Iraq supported there.
I don't think they support their Gouvernment, but they would fight back for the sake of their country. I don't they would like to end up like us Iraqis.

[Colombia]

It is weird that of all the organizations to support in the overthrow of Iran, they would support the MEK. Why support Marxist Rebels?

[John_worldrevolution.info]

Originally posted by mo7amEd+Jul 30 2005, 10:21 PM--> (mo7amEd @ Jul 30 2005, 10:21 PM)
[email protected] 30 2005, 02:52 PM
I don't think that US will even try to wage war against Iran... The people of Iran support their government more than people of Iraq supported there.
I don't think they support their Gouvernment, but they would fight back for the sake of their country. I don't they would like to end up like us Iraqis. [/b]
I agree. It is pretty irrelevant considering who will be the 'nicer' government. The Iraqi resistance are fighting imperialism and that is what the Iranian resistance would be fighting if they were to be invaded.

[piet11111]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2005, 01:06 AM
It is weird that of all the organizations to support in the overthrow of Iran, they would support the MEK. Why support Marxist Rebels?
because its easier to drop a marxist group after they have done their part in overthrowing the iranian government.

after all who would believe the almighty usa would involve with marxists.

its just another example of using the tools that are available to them nothing more nothing less.

and i do believe they intend to use nukes because bush jr. is developing nuclear bunker busters.
its all been planned since before bush took office for the first time.

[Commandante_Ant]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2005, 10:35 PM

In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq are preparing to do the same for Iran. The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack—but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections.

Ok so they wanna nuke Iran, thats nothing new. Iran wants to nuke them too, let them. What worries me is that they are drawing up a plan for attack if there is another 9/11 scale incident...surely with all the security restrictions they have, there should be no room for this to happen. Is it possible they are putting together this plan as an excuse to attack Iran? And whats to say, if there was another attack, that it would be Iran as the attackers? The plan is based around Iran and hostilities, what about any other country's? North Korea?

[piet11111]

who was it again that said "we live in a world of nuclear giants and moral infants"
so right that person was.

[KrazyRabidSheep]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 06:51 PM
who was it again that said "we live in a world of nuclear giants and moral infants"
so right that person was.
"Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner."
-General Omar Nelson Bradley (1893-1981)

[Red Rebel]

I would not be surprised if the USA started a war with Iran, but I doubt they will go as far as using nuclear weapons.

I'll second Colombia.

Also the US is still fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan (the US still hasn't pulled out of there either). Invading another country (and not just supplying a resistance movement) is out of the question until the US can get more manpower.

[red_orchestra]

The US is interested in converting the Arab world to American consumerism and values. So, hey...my thoughts go out to the Resistance movements. Iran, well....not surprised, the US is interested is starting a new War. Oh well, the US will shortly become an Israel with daily bombing and such.

US is making its own grave. Its ignorence in foriegn policy is catching up to them.

[Anarchist Freedom]

I Doubt that the US will nuke iran. I doubt nuclear war is even plausable right now. Why you ask? because if someone so much as detonated a nuclear missle. The whole world would be riding their asses up and down the fucking floor.

[Ollie]

I don't think they would consider nuking or invading Iran, especially at this current time where Iraq is a complete and many soldiers have died this week alone. I doubt the public would support an attack and even those for the iraq war will not support another attack. A nuclear missile will certainly not be used in my opinion!! More likely to be a similar attack as iraq if iran was in their minds. But not at this time, it is out of the question, even for bush and his cronies.