View Full Version : What about evil masochists?
Andy Bowden
29th July 2005, 23:08
If they go to hell, they'll be laughing, but they can't go to heaven cause thats for us good folk. Where the fuck do they go? :huh:
Stormshield
29th July 2005, 23:21
lmao, good question! Maybe they'll just stay here, in a massaging centre or something :D
Clarksist
30th July 2005, 01:37
They would probably... oh wait, it doesn't matter.
Religious "logic" fails again. :lol:
anomaly
30th July 2005, 09:28
The idea that a God infinitely wise would choose such a diametric afterlife is absurd. This is saying that God sees everyone in 'black and white'. It is for this reason that I think the idea of a 'hell' is completely absurd. For one, the determining factor of whether one 'goes to hell' is not one's 'good' life, but rather one's 'good' belief. Such superficial judgements are said to be the judgements of God Himself (by Christians, atleast. I'm not too educated on Judaism or Islam). I like the idea of perhaps a 'repeat' of this life, where you can 'start over', and this continuation of this life is an 'afterlife'. As for ideas that aren't my own, I rather like the idea of reincarnation. The actions of your life determine what you reincarnate into, not some belief.
redstar2000
30th July 2005, 14:59
Originally posted by anomaly
The actions of your life determine what you reincarnate into, not some belief.
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Ele'ill
1st August 2005, 17:12
They would probably... oh wait, it doesn't matter.
Religious "logic" fails again. laugh.gif
If you only think of hell as physical pain then yeah I guess.
What about insanity, feeling yourself going insane over and over again. Sort of loosing your grip on who you are, your masochistic tendencies. Use your imagination.
The idea that a God infinitely wise would choose such a diametric afterlife is absurd. This is saying that God sees everyone in 'black and white'. It is for this reason that I think the idea of a 'hell' is completely absurd. For one, the determining factor of whether one 'goes to hell' is not one's 'good' life, but rather one's 'good' belief. Such superficial judgements are said to be the judgements of God Himself (by Christians, atleast. I'm not too educated on Judaism or Islam). I like the idea of perhaps a 'repeat' of this life, where you can 'start over', and this continuation of this life is an 'afterlife'. As for ideas that aren't my own, I rather like the idea of reincarnation. The actions of your life determine what you reincarnate into, not some belief.
Maybe the mental or physical state you die in matters. If you die screaming and crying in mental anguish maybe your natural spirit or whatever you'd like to call it is at unrest in whatever dimension or place it goes. That would be considered 'hell' by some but i'd like to think there's room for advancment out of hell. Reincarnating as something based apon your life's actions wouldn't make much sense. If I am a human in this life and I am angry and violent, lets say just as an example I reincarnate as a shark or some other brutal predator in my next life. How the hell am I supposed to ever break that cycle? I do like the idea of random reincarnation. I'd like to be a butterfly
..that stirs up the dust..causes a monkey to sneeze..
anomaly
2nd August 2005, 06:03
A shark is only one lower life form. The idea is that a human is the highest being one can reincarnate into, and so any other creature would be lower (although perhaps this isn't true, who knows). So why would you become a shark? If we have an infinitely wise God, why would He make you into a shark while knowing your past actions? Why wouldn't He make you into a butterfly, a much more peaceful animal.
anomaly
2nd August 2005, 06:03
accidently posted twice...
Ele'ill
2nd August 2005, 22:44
A shark is only one lower life form. The idea is that a human is the highest being one can reincarnate into, and so any other creature would be lower (although perhaps this isn't true, who knows). So why would you become a shark? If we have an infinitely wise God, why would He make you into a shark while knowing your past actions? Why wouldn't He make you into a butterfly, a much more peaceful animal.
Maybe the state you lived in builds a certain energy pattern that reaches certain levels through out your life. So when ever you die your energy edicts what you'll be in the next life. Maybe there is no real god just this primal flow of energy that whirls around and around.
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