Will India Become A Junior Partner ...

[martingale]

Let's hope the Indian people will block this demeaning role for India that the Indian ruling elite is hell-bent on creating:

http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/157


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The United States has long eyed India’s substantial military manpower. Washington wants to appropriate Indian troops as foot-soldiers in its global operations—much in the manner the British-Indian army was exploited to expand the Empire into the Middle East and Afghanistan.

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The “New Framework” isn’t going down well with the Indian public. The Left parties, whose support is vital for Singh, strongly oppose it. A subordinate patron-client relationship with the United States, which is in search of a global Empire, will be resented by many Indians, who are proud of their country’s history of independence in foreign policy making and autonomy in international affairs.

Singh is embarking on a gamble. It is unlikely that he will be able to sell the “new compact” easily to the domestic public.
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[bolshevik butcher]

I think that this is inevitable, washington is gearing up for a new cold war with china, and india is going to be a valuable ally.

[viva le revolution]

India has a lot of advantages for the U.S ,
1. It has a huge market for U.S goods, thus benefitting the U.S economy.
2. It has a lots of cheap labour availible, for U.S manufacturers.
3. It provides the U.S with technical specialist, particularly in the I.T industry.
4. It has a vast pool of troops and conventional military, good enough for the U.S to send where it doesn't want to risk it's own.
5. It is lucrative market for american and isreali weapons and military technology, due to it's rivalry with Pakistan. an arms race would be of immense benefit to the military-industrial complex of america. this arms race is already underway, with the U.S providing pakistan with f-16 fighter jets and india with the f-18 and patriot missile system.
6. It acts as a counter-balance to China, which has close relations with Pakistan, and with whom India has already fought a war.Relations with China are tense.
7. It acts as a counter-balance to Pakistan which is the only muslim country with nuclear weapons and a close ally of China.
8. It is in a position to keep Nepal in check, the U.S fears the Maoists taking over, so India serves as a trump card to keep in check any Maoist ambitions in the area.
9. It serves as a logistic base for any sorties in central asia.
10. Its position allows it to keep south asia( the phillipines, indonesia etc.) in check.
11. It has a warm-water port allowing for easy entry of U.S goods.

[h&s]

washington is gearing up for a new cold war with china
Not likely. The US relies on Chinese investors to prop up their economy.
Without China the US economy is fucked. They are not going to do anything to provoke that.

[viva le revolution]

Originally posted by h&[email protected] 29 2005, 01:30 PM

Not likely. The US relies on Chinese investors to prop up their economy.
Without China the US economy is fucked. They are not going to do anything to provoke that.
Most likely true. Th U.S economy is dependant on China, so economic pressure on China would be counter-productive in this case. However China can be cowed militarily and kept in check with proxy states such as India, south korea and japan. Not economic, but the threat of military pressure and encirclement will be used. China however holds sway over western econpomies but it also is dependant upon private manufacturing for it's own economy and development since vast tracts of China are still undeveloped.

[Severian]

Originally posted by h&[email protected] 29 2005, 07:30 AM

washington is gearing up for a new cold war with china
Not likely. The US relies on Chinese investors to prop up their economy.
Without China the US economy is fucked. They are not going to do anything to provoke that.
Some people used similar arguments to prove WWI couldn't happen.

I would suggest increasing tension between the U.S. & China is likely precisely because of the economic relations between them, including the U.S. trade deficit.

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Washington's playing a delicate game with India and Pakistan, trying to become India's senior partner while keeping Pakistan as a client regime...long-run, India seems more valuable.

[h&s]

Yes but the US is never going to do anything to provoke China deliberately.
I just can't see the current batch of Western capitalists, who are obsessed with the 'Chinese Market' doing anything to upset it.
Maybe once the Chinese see sense and stop investing in the US someting will happen.
To me relations between the two countries seem to be getting better, but I accept what you have said.
Anything could happen.

[bolshevik butcher]

Yeh, the U$ is trying to make india the new china. And also by keeping it in check it means it can keep china doing what it wants.

[joshdavies]

The situation with India and China is quite interesting. I think that some kind of conflict in the long term between the US and China (even if it is a proxy war) is inevitable - this is the way that capitalism works. If China is to become a new imperialist power then it will have to infringe on other imperialists - this is just the way of the world market - its already signed free trade agreements with Chile, India and some other places which I can't think of off the top of my head and the other day on the news (I missed most of the piece) there was a dispute because of a Chinese company buying out an ol company in the US (or something similar). This doesn't of course mean that there'll be a world war tomorrow but it shows that tensions are mounting.

Whether or not the US 'provokes China deliberately' isn't very relevant. Its the pursuit for control over markets which will determine the course of the relations between world powers.

[bolshevik butcher]

I doubt ath it will ever develop into a full scale war because of the nuclear dterent but it could well be a new 'cold' wae.

[viva le revolution]

Possible for a cold war to occur, but most likely a proxy war will take place. Nuclear weapons don't mean shit in a proxy war, only makes more enemies in the world. Sort of like another korean war, one side supported by america and the other by the chinese.

[Warren Peace]

I think it's very obvious that the US would attack the people of China if Taiwan seceeded. So I agree that the US is kicking with Indian expansionists so they'll be in gear for a war in Asia. Also, if there was a war with China, I think the US and India would use the opportunity to invade Nepal and defeat the Maoists, the way the US invaded Cambodia during the Vietnam War.