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Clarksist
26th July 2005, 07:42
Why does dreaming have such an effect on our psyche?

People who sleep but do not dream, can go insane, and dreams themselves are completely fluent worlds created by the mind alone.

Dreams have always fascinated me, and I'd like to know if anyone here knows why we dream. Moreover, why we seem to HAVE to dream.

bed_of_nails
26th July 2005, 09:02
I read an article on why people dream...

Basically our brains get bored.

Anarcho-Communist
26th July 2005, 10:04
My brain think's of the most random thing's while i'm asleep. I have a notebook next to my bed and everytime I wake up after a dream I jot down what happened. I hate the dreams where you wake up falling, your body has a sinking feeling and the bed shakes. I'm still working that one out :lol:

Taiga
26th July 2005, 10:39
I never remember my dreams. When I wake up I have a feeling that I had a dream but I have no idea what was it about.
I don't like it. :(

Does it mean something?

viva le revolution
26th July 2005, 14:03
I dream only on average once a month. Usually it seems like only a second has passed since i fell asleep when i wake up.
Anyone knows what that means :unsure:

Gust
26th July 2005, 14:13
I can't remember ever having a dream.

viva le revolution
26th July 2005, 14:17
Deadhead! :D
Don't worry we're both on the same boat.

Sir Aunty Christ
26th July 2005, 15:14
I think everyone dreams at some stage of the night, it's just that some people don't remember having dreamt.

The dreams you remember occur in the minutes just before you wake up. Therefore the people who say they dream are the ones who dream during this period. It happens quite often to me that I remember dreaming but I don't remember what I've dreamt about.

Donnie
26th July 2005, 17:50
I’ve read stuff about dreams but I’m not particularly interested in interpretations of dreams. I'd agree with Sir Aunty Christ, his theory sounds familiar.

I can never really remember my dreams. From my recollections I just black out on the bed. I never manage to get all my cloths off. I normally take my top off and read a book on my bed and then just fall asleep.

Organic Revolution
26th July 2005, 17:54
i had a really odd dream, which kinda freaked me out. i had a dream that my freind mike was dead on a mourge table, and when i got woke up by my phone ringing it was mikes mom telling me he had passed away. what does this mean.

LSD
26th July 2005, 18:07
People who sleep but do not dream, can go insane, and dreams themselves are completely fluent worlds created by the mind alone.

It's not the dreaming that we need, per se, rather its the REM sleep itself. It would appear that we need to enter REM sleep so that our neuronic pathways can restructure themselves to accomdate the new information we get everyday. Dreaming is, most likely, just a side effect of this process


what does this mean.

That coincidences happen.

Severian
26th July 2005, 18:37
Originally posted by Sir Aunty [email protected] 26 2005, 08:14 AM
I think everyone dreams at some stage of the night, it's just that some people don't remember having dreamt.
Everyone has REM sleep, anyway. No way to tell for sure if someone's dreaming except by asking them when they wake up....

Anarcho-Communist
26th July 2005, 22:41
Has anyone every tried Lucid Dreaming, it's basically controlling your dream and being able to do what you what. Rudolf Steiner ring a bell?? :lol:

Clarksist
26th July 2005, 23:03
i had a really odd dream, which kinda freaked me out. i had a dream that my freind mike was dead on a mourge table, and when i got woke up by my phone ringing it was mikes mom telling me he had passed away. what does this mean.


Yeah I dreamt that my aunt and uncle had another kid. Sure enough the next week they did.

Since I have no belief in fate, or psychics... I am very weirded out by that phenomena.

LSD
26th July 2005, 23:11
Based on your profile, I estimate that you've been alive for 5721 days.

If we assume that you've had at least 2 dreams every night, and you've probably had more, then, in your personal experience, the chance of a dream accurately predicting the future is about one in eleven thousand.

Sorry, but even Miss. Cleo is a better psychic than that! :lol:

bed_of_nails
26th July 2005, 23:34
Originally posted by Anarcho-[email protected] 26 2005, 02:41 PM
Has anyone every tried Lucid Dreaming, it's basically controlling your dream and being able to do what you what. Rudolf Steiner ring a bell?? :lol:
I can occasionally pull this off.

Very fun.

Pawn Power
27th July 2005, 02:00
Yeah I dreamt that my aunt and uncle had another kid. Sure enough the next week they did.

Well they knew and your parents probably knew that they were going to have a kid almost 40 weeks before


Has anyone every tried Lucid Dreaming, it's basically controlling your dream and being able to do what you what.
Yeah, its often difficult because I know i am dreaming and try to control what I do but do not have complete control of events, most of the time I wake up when this happends.

People always try to interpret what dreams mean in actual life, I belive they are just random and have no significance. could be wronge though..

Dark Exodus
27th July 2005, 04:08
One time after a dream I woke up and coulden't move, that was scary as hell.

Clarksist
27th July 2005, 04:14
Originally posted by Dark [email protected] 26 2005, 09:08 PM
One time after a dream I woke up and coulden't move, that was scary as hell.
That happens to me a lot.

Supposedly, you wake up during your deepest R.E.M. cycle and your body can&#39;t function. I would have pissed myself if I had control of my bladder. <_<

FatFreeMilk
27th July 2005, 04:48
People always try to interpret what dreams mean in actual life, I belive they are just random and have no significance. could be wronge though..

Yeah cus dreams are like messages that you&#39;re body is trying to tell you but your comcsious mind won&#39;t let you listen.

I&#39;m not sure what&#39;s up with those dreams where you&#39;re about to fall to your death or be killed in some other helpless way. But at least you wake up right before you hit the ground. If not then I hear you have a heart attack and die in real life. Aye guey&#33;

I have the weirdest dreams when I have a fever though. Now those are fucking scary.

coda
27th July 2005, 05:37
My dreams are so fucked up..

I&#39;m always being chased in my dreams... damn animals. Usually it&#39;s a huge dragon-snake right on my heels blowing fire on me... last week it was a big elephant that kept getting bigger and bigger walking after to stomp me. I spend the whole dream running from an animal and damn it, no matter what I always end up drowning in water at the end. I think it&#39;s trying to tell me that I always pick the wrong men. Can&#39;t wait for tonights episode -- Will the animal finally get me or will I go to my watery grave again? and nope, can&#39;t swim in real life to save myself. so, maybe it&#39;s telling me to take some swimming lessons.

LSD
27th July 2005, 05:47
One time after a dream I woke up and coulden&#39;t move,

That&#39;s called sleep paralysis, and it&#39;s relatively common.

No worries&#33; ;)


Yeah cus dreams are like messages that you&#39;re body is trying to tell you but your comcsious mind won&#39;t let you listen.

I&#39;ve seen no evidence of that.

Most of the available research suggests that dreams merely reflect the firing of neurons durring REM sleep. The narrative and specific imagery that your subconcious creates is certainly often influenced by concerns or worries you have. But there is no indiciation that dreams are "messages" of any sort.

Xvall
27th July 2005, 06:14
I never remember my dreams. When I wake up I have a feeling that I had a dream but I have no idea what was it about.
I don&#39;t like it.

Does it mean something?

That usually symbolized latent mental disorders that have yet to emerge, but most likely will at a later date.

Taiga
27th July 2005, 06:52
Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 27 2005, 08:14 AM

I never remember my dreams. When I wake up I have a feeling that I had a dream but I have no idea what was it about.
I don&#39;t like it.

Does it mean something?

That usually symbolized latent mental disorders that have yet to emerge, but most likely will at a later date.
What a relief, thanx&#33; :lol:

But, seriously, taking into consideration my memory problems, probably, you&#39;re right. :unsure:

Dark Exodus
27th July 2005, 07:53
I don&#39;t dream that often, or maybe I do but I don&#39;t remember them.

When I do its usually completely random, sometimes I fly over Las Vegas, others I&#39;m being chased by a leapord in a car park.

monkeydust
27th July 2005, 08:38
I have the most odd dreams.

A common theme seems to be when I wake up, get dressed, see myself staring at myself, realize it&#39;s still a dream, get up, go downstairs, see my mate in my house, think "Wha?", realize it&#39;s still a dream, then wake up - although sometimes the cycle can go on for 3 or 4 "wake ups".

Also I tend to find that places that I dream of often look like amalgams of various places I&#39;ve been to. Like 2 or 3 places I know well - a grandparent&#39;s house, or an old school classroom I remember - have been "jumbled up" into one single area.

I&#39;m of the belief that dreams can represent "messages" from the unconcsious, since when you dream it&#39;s rather as if you&#39;ve been thrown back into the unconscious itself, but very often they may be meangingless, and even when they&#39;re more meaningful it&#39;s hard to understand what they mean.

Elect Marx
27th July 2005, 09:41
Originally posted by Anarcho&#045;[email protected] 26 2005, 03:04 AM
I hate the dreams where you wake up falling, your body has a sinking feeling and the bed shakes. I&#39;m still working that one out :lol:
I haven&#39;t had that happen (that I know of) for some time.

I do have a theory on it though; here goes:

When you are sleeping (maybe in REM), your brain does not sense the force of gravity, at least in the same conscious maner.
You wake up; BAM GRAVITY&#33; (AHHHH&#33;&#33;&#33;)

Sir Aunty Christ
27th July 2005, 09:48
Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 27 2005, 05:14 AM

I never remember my dreams. When I wake up I have a feeling that I had a dream but I have no idea what was it about.
I don&#39;t like it.

Does it mean something?

That usually symbolized latent mental disorders that have yet to emerge, but most likely will at a later date.
Where do you get that from?

Ah well, if it&#39;s true that&#39;s me doomed :blink:

I had a dream once that I had a dentist appointment, I was sitting in the chair and all of a sudden a cap came down on my head and I realised it was the Electric Chair. my mum pulled the lever.

Elect Marx
27th July 2005, 09:50
Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 10:37 PM
My dreams are so fucked up..

I&#39;m always being chased in my dreams... damn animals. Usually it&#39;s a huge dragon-snake right on my heels blowing fire on me... last week it was a big elephant that kept getting bigger and bigger walking after to stomp me. I spend the whole dream running from an animal and damn it, no matter what I always end up drowning in water at the end.
:lol: I shouldn&#39;t laugh but your dreams are all kinds of funny... and horrible.

I&#39;ve been chased... it really sucks.

Maybe the elephant represents an increasing problem?

I have some unpleasant water dreams... usually dark water and I do just fine... I am just freaked out because I am in a weird body of water for no damn reason.


I think it&#39;s trying to tell me that I always pick the wrong men.

Okay... I think I missed the connection.

I did have a dream once that my girlfriend was dead... worst dream ever&#33; :(

I&#39;ve had dreams with obvious meanings, ones that are absurd, dealing with absurd social conditions and just random recent crap all thrown in.

Elect Marx
27th July 2005, 09:54
Originally posted by Sir Aunty [email protected] 27 2005, 02:48 AM
I had a dream once that I had a dentist appointment, I was sitting in the chair and all of a sudden a cap came down on my head and I realised it was the Electric Chair. my mum pulled the lever.
Why are other people&#39;s dreams so funny&#33;? Mine are strange...

Elect Marx
27th July 2005, 10:10
Originally posted by Lysergic Acid [email protected] 26 2005, 11:07 AM
It&#39;s not the dreaming that we need, per se, rather its the REM sleep itself. It would appear that we need to enter REM sleep so that our neuronic pathways can restructure themselves to accomdate the new information we get everyday. Dreaming is, most likely, just a side effect of this process
Wow; I am surprised someone hasn&#39;t posted more information and theories.

Here are some theories ideas I have heard/dreamed up:

Dreams are of the process your mind goes through to handle the information of the day, possibly to catalogue it, like LSD said.

I have heard statistic of a strong correlation between memory and sleep, you need sleep to remember information at your best; sleep before tests.

Dreams and the REM process in general helps your mind to de-stress.

The process allows your mental activity to relax and stabilizes you mental functions (the sanity part)

Dreams help you deal with unresolved problems; while you sleep your mind attends to you fears, anxiety and mixes everything up for a "virtual experience" to prepare you for real challenges and give you a different perspective of issues (the whole dream interpretation thing).

What else... I know I have more information...

Hmm, I need to sleep now actually... I should take my own advice more :P

Sanity slipping... :blink: Did everything just taste purple for a second? :lol:

Pawn Power
27th July 2005, 18:37
When you are sleeping (maybe in REM), your brain does not sense the force of gravity, at least in the same conscious maner.
You wake up; BAM GRAVITY&#33; (AHHHH&#33;&#33;&#33;)

That&#39;s and interesting theory, it kinda makes sense. That is almost what it feels like when you wake up from one of those dreams.
I don&#39;t know how scientifically sound it is.
What about astronouts in space, when they wake up there really is no gravity...ahhh

Anarchist Freedom
27th July 2005, 20:52
In my honest opinion. I think dreams are just a summery of the day you just experience its a story of the most profound moments of the day.

Vallegrande
27th July 2005, 23:57
Drink some mugwort tea or smoke it before you go to bed. That ought to enlighten your dreams.

Raisa
1st August 2005, 07:48
Im pretty sure I died in a dream before.

This man was coming at me with a bat and a burried myself in the ground and never got a chance to bury my head so it was sticking up out of the ground and he swung at that shit like tiger woods-and BAM. lights out&#33;

Elect Marx
1st August 2005, 09:58
I have died twice that I remember...

The first involved an obscure guy I kind-of knew. He was in a station wagon and I went to it. We started arguing about how I stole his girlfriend (doesn&#39;t exist BTW) and then I walked away...

He shot me in the back of my head (don&#39;t know how I know); fairly sure I died... or would have.

The other I remember was me standing behind the railing at the back of some rather high bleachers (a stupid thing to do&#33;) and a big bearded man pushes me off...

I fall and hit the pavement; The next thing I know, I&#39;m having an out of body experience. *I think to myself as I look at my body: That can&#39;t be good... crap&#33;

Dream interpretation anyone? :P

Sir Aunty Christ
1st August 2005, 10:25
Last year I had a dream about Wesley Clark and Howard Dean standing on some gallows. they both had the nooses around their necks but Wesley Clark was looking kind of pissed off, scowling at Howard Dean who was making an Iowa-style speech.

And whatdayaknow, a few weeks later they were both out of the race for the Democratic nomination.

Vallegrande
1st August 2005, 16:18
I had a dream getting pumped full of lead. I was hiding behind a couch knowing what was coming. I could feel the bullets going through me (no pain just wierd funny feeling). What&#39;s more fucked up is that I was only around 8 years old when I had that.

Elect Marx
1st August 2005, 20:00
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 09:18 AM
I could feel the bullets going through me (no pain just wierd funny feeling). What&#39;s more fucked up is that I was only around 8 years old when I had that.
Yeah, me too and I could swear I feel pain in some of my dreams...

I had to be around 14 years when I had the bullet dream but I did draw people shooting each other with guns when I was a little kid :blink: A crazy dark kid was I :P