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Xvall
25th July 2005, 01:45
I don't know how (and if) we've missed it, but I found this (http://mack.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.View&ContentRecord_id=106) earlier.


House Approves Mack Amendment to Promote Freedom in Venezuela
“The United States has sent a message that we will not turn a blind eye as Hugo Chavez continues to snuff-out freedom and hijack Venezuela from its citizens.” – Congressman Connie Mack (FL-14)

You can read it. I hope Mack dies.

(There should be a question mark in the title; it didn't seem to show up; my bad.)

JC1
25th July 2005, 02:48
edit : may she rot in hell

Xvall
25th July 2005, 02:50
He. Maybe that's why he's being such a dick. Perhaps he need to "make up" for the insecurity surrounding his name.

JC1
25th July 2005, 02:56
heheheheheheh

Paradox
25th July 2005, 03:23
From the link:


By voice vote, the House adopted Mack’s amendment to the Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 2005, which authorizes the U.S. Government, through the Broadcasting Board of Governors, to initiate radio and television broadcasts that will provide a consistently accurate, objective, and comprehensive source of news to Venezuela.

Yeah, we know what objective you have in mind, you piece of shit&#33;&#33;&#33; <_<


Mack said:

“Hugo Chavez is an enemy of freedom and of those who support and promote it. He is a threat to the United States and stands to undermine the balance of power in the Western Hemisphere. Today America has sent a message that we will not turn a blind eye as Hugo Chavez continues to snuff-out freedom and hijack Venezuela from its citizens.”

And what balance of power is that? Your imperialist hold on the hemisphere&#33; That&#39;s what&#33; Bastards&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry:

There&#39;s a link to contact this idiot, maybe we should all send him emails saying how stupid he is and how hypocritical it is for him to talk of "democracy" and "free and fair elections." What do you think?

Xvall
25th July 2005, 03:30
I think he won&#39;t give a shit because he&#39;s a right-winged bastard who will stop at nothing until the United States controls every aspect of the planet.

We can hope he dies and we can hope that sets some sort of example.

Fidelbrand
25th July 2005, 03:35
Fuck. Uncle Sam is swinging his dick again..

danny android
25th July 2005, 03:48
fuck the house is just making all kinds of shitty decisions lately

viva le revolution
25th July 2005, 07:54
That what it is there for.

bolshevik butcher
25th July 2005, 12:37
Is the U&#036; gonna invade venezuela and risk another bay of pigs or are they just gonna keep war mongering?

mo7amEd
25th July 2005, 16:51
Oh shit, do you guys think the US will risk another war?

Zingu
25th July 2005, 16:59
Even though I don&#39;t think Hugo Chavez is much of a proletarian revolutionary, more of a burgeoisie leftist (who I support anyways), I find that bill very Orwellian, like what most speechs have been in like in the past 5 years.....

Oh well, class struggle is ON&#33;

Redvolution
25th July 2005, 18:27
This is scary.

Downright scary.

resisting arrest with violence
25th July 2005, 18:36
It&#39;s funny how Connie Mack says, among the many lies, that Chavez is undermining the "balance of power" in the Western Hemisphere. What balance of power? The U.S. is the world&#39;s sole superpower and the Western Hemisphere&#39;s super super super superpower. What a deceitful corporate thug Mack is.

danny android
26th July 2005, 06:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 03:51 PM
Oh shit, do you guys think the US will risk another war?
I sure hope not or else I am getting the fuck out of here.

4514
26th July 2005, 09:38
an article from the granma cuba:

Venezuela announces it is to block broadcasts against the country
CARACAS, July 21 (PL)—Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez has warned the United States that he will send a resounding response if it begins anti-Venezuelan radio and TV broadcasts, and that he will continue to deepen the Revolution.

In a telephone interview with Venezolana de Televisión, Chávez affirmed that if the U.S. government continues with an initiative approved by the House of Representatives, Venezuela will have to respond.

That proposal would allow the U.S. government to transmit radio and television signals to that South American country with the aim of counteracting Telesur’s messages.

"The time when we stayed quiet is over; we used to fall back and turn the other cheek, as Christ said. After the coup d’état in April of 2002, both of our cheeks turned purple," the Venezuelan leader said.

"Our government must respond (...) If the U.S. government dares to take any action, whatever it may be – for example, if it issues very powerful signals – well, then, there will be electronic warfare," he stated.

It remains to be seen how far it is willing to go; it will regret it, because the response will be more powerful than their action, and will generate more awareness in Latin America, he affirmed.

The Venezuelan president emphasized that any large-scale aggression of that type would once again demonstrate that the United States is a giant who steps on others, does not respect freedom of expression and supports terrorists.

In Chávez’ opinion, the electronic aggression against Venezuela would remove imperialism’s mask and reveal it "in all its ugliness, before our entire people."

Both the president of Venezuela and his minister of information, Andrés Izarra, attributed the new attack to the fact that Telesur – which has yet to begin broadcasting – is "touching sore spots" and has the United States and its interests very much concerned.

Izarra, for his part, commented that the threat is not an isolated attack; rather, it is part of a "renewed wave of political actions against Venezuela."
article from the granma:
In that respect, he recalled, among other cases, that U.S. Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen is promoting another resolution in Congress against Venezuela.

He explained that Congresswoman Connie Mack of Florida, who proposed the initiative, gave political support to Cuban-born terrorist Orlando Bosch, who was pardoned by President George Bush senior.

Bosch is responsible for countless terrorist attacks against Cuba, including the sabotage of a civilian passenger plane in 1976 that killed 73 people.

"Mack talks like an imperialist who does not tolerate liberty or democracy. That is how people talk behind the logic of invading Iraq. We are resolved to be free," Izarra warned.

Likewise, Telesur’s general director, Aram Aharonian, reiterated that the channel’s signal will go on the air on July 24, as planned, without accepting any type of censoring.

granma.cuba (http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html)

the frontline is everywhere.
4514
rank and file

kingbee
26th July 2005, 11:00
and this is why they want to attack&#33; apparently....

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30350

Camarada
26th July 2005, 12:02
ˇNO HAY AGRESIÓN IMPERIALISTA QUE VENEZUELA NO RESISTA&#33;

ˇVIVA VENEZUELA&#33;

http://www.webmaster-tool.co.uk/flag-animated/Venezuela.gif

bolshevik butcher
26th July 2005, 12:07
further galvanizing popular resistance to Chavez

Eh what popular resistance? He won the recall election with 70% of the vote&#33;

Xiao Banfa
26th July 2005, 12:18
No pasaran.

Severian
26th July 2005, 19:19
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 11:27 AM
This is scary.

Downright scary.
What, that the U.S. is starting a propaganda broadcast station? Several people who&#39;ve posted in this thread could stand to...stop freaking out.

Actually if they have to do this it reflects how the pro-imperialist opposition has been pushed back in Venezuela. The big-business-owned media there have acted as the best propaganda mouthpieces for that opposition which anyone can ask for.

If the U.S. really needs this station, it reflects that ain&#39;t the case anymore.

A move from weakness, not strength.

Colombia
26th July 2005, 19:35
I can&#39;t see this as a big threat. As someone posted earlier, these anti-Chavez broadcasts are just going to be blocked so the Venezuelan people won&#39;t even hear it. It is pretty sad though that the US would go to such lengths but I guess I shouldn&#39;t be shocked.

encephalon
26th July 2005, 19:44
it&#39;s likely the US will increase aggression towards Venezuela; whether that turns into an invasion, I&#39;m not sure of. It wouldn&#39;t quite surprise me. While withdrawing their resources from American markets won&#39;t hurt the US too much, Venezuela has the resources to greatly contribute to another socialist bloc and upset the US&#39;s cherished "(im)balance of power."

The fact that the US public is largely ignorant of anything about Venezuela, especially its recent movements, allows for the ruling class to sway public reaction through propaganda pretty easily.

mo7amEd
26th July 2005, 23:13
This will make the american people think that Venezuela wants to be bombed:


The recently published global attitude survey by the Pew Research Center in Washington shows 82 percent of Venezuelans have a favorable attitude toward the U.S., the highest of all 44 countries polled.

Also, 79 percent favor the U.S. war on terrorism, with just 20 percent opposed.

Redvolution
27th July 2005, 04:03
Perhaps it&#39;s a move out of weakness, but it&#39;s also a step towards anti-Chavez/anti-Venezuelan action. If people don&#39;t know about Venezuela (and next to nobody does) and all they hear is this bad stuff about it blaring from the propaganda machines, it puts an undeserved bad name on socialism, and perhaps a foreshadowing? Let&#39;s hope not...
It just saddens/scares me to see my country doing all this shit.
Kthxbye.

bolshevik butcher
27th July 2005, 12:22
I wonder if in the event that the U&#036; does invade venezuela will the anti-war libreeals stand with the venezuelan governmnet or will they say they dont like them but just object to war?