Anton Pannekoek

[Paradox]

I just read a couple of pieces by Pannekoek, and wanted to know your opinions of his ideas. The two pieces I read are Two Sorts of Reform, and Workers Councils. I found the work on councils very interesting. Though I've heard of him before and knew he's tied to Council Communism, I never read any of his work until today. I consider myself Council Communist, but as a result of reading Rosa Luxemburg's work. Anyway, what other works should I check out by Pannekoek, and what are you opinions of his ideas?

If you'd like to read the pieces I did, here are the links:

Two Sorts of Reform: http://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1908/reforms.htm

Workers Councils:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1936/councils.htm

[enigma2517]

I actually had a question about the reform article.

It sounds fine and dandy but I really don't get what the hell he's talking about. Just what kind of non-reformist reforms would these be?

Wheres the distinction? The concept seems rather abstract and even fantastical to me, but then again maybe somebody can explain more indepth.

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[rebelworker]

I enjoy the fact that council communism puts us, the workers at the center of the social revolution, not some professioinal class of revolutionaries.

I havnt read much pannekoek but I have friends who are greatly influenced by him.

I think AK Press just put out another book of his, in adition to the new edition of Workers councils, Ive been meaning to check them both out.

Try checking out http://www.prole.info for lots of great redings

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In Solidarity,
rebelworker

[Djehuti]

A small sidetrack:


If Anton Pannekoek represents the dutch/german communist left, Amadeo Bordiga represents the Italian communist left.

Antagonism press have published a great text named "Bordiga versus Panekoek".
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby...iga/bvptoc.html (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/3909/bordiga/bvptoc.html)
I recomend every one to read it through.

I myself generally prefer Bordiga over Pannekoek. Both have contributed a lot to communist theory. They are both great thinkers, but they both have their faults. In some questions I agree with Pannekoek over Bordiga, and in other questions I agree with Bordiga over Pannekoek (overall they are much more alike than they would admit). But if I have to choose one, I would choose Bordiga. Unfortunatly Bordiga have not recieved as much recognicion as he deserve. If you like Pannekoek and council communism, you should definitly take a look at Bordiga. A good start is "Bordiga vs Pannekoek".


The Amadeo Bordiga archive at marxists.org:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/index.htm


Amadeo Bordigas "Party and Class" from 1921:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/wo...party-class.htm (http://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1921/party-class.htm)

Anton Pannekoeks "Party and Class" from 1936:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1...party-class.htm (http://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1936/party-class.htm)