South Park Republicans?

[Andy Bowden]

Not South Park!

Not my fave tv series! :lol:


Seriously, what is this "South Park Republicans shit"?

I always thought South Park attacked all ideologies :unsure: ...........

[Jersey Devil]

It is a term used by certain people to describe young Libertarian-Republicans, such as Ron Paul of Texas. I believe Andrew Sulivan coined the phrase, I am to lazy to look it up however.

[bed_of_nails]

FOX news had a stupid thing on it...

They were calling it "South Park Democrats" because they thought South Park made fun of Democrats. These were democrats who went along with some of the things, but they thought the majority were crazy.

[Severian]

The South Park creators are libertarians, I think.

[OleMarxco]

Originally posted by "Jersey-Devil"
It is a term used by certain people to describe young Libertarian-Republicans, such as Ron Paul of Texas. I believe Andrew Sulivan coined the phrase, I am to lazy to look it up however.

I am not, however.
Apparantly, former New-Mexico governor Gary E. Johnson, coined the phrase,
atleast - According to Wikipedia, that is ;)

[Ownthink]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 06:00 PM
The South Park creators are libertarians, I think.
I quote "There's nothing more that I hate than liberals."

From an interview with Trey Parker and Matt Stone. They aren't liberal at all.

[Jersey Devil]

They are libertarians.

[refuse_resist]

Not too surprising to hear they're libertarians.

[Free Palestine]

Conservatives can have South Park if they want it. Let them co-opt it. It's just as preachy and dogmatic as all the Hollywood activists it continually makes fun of.

It's also very curious the conservative obsession with being a "libertarian." Perhaps it is because there are a lot of Republicans and conservatives who whole-heartedly disagree with this war and with the Bush administration, but they feel trapped. They can't align themselves with the dreaded Liberals, probably from fear of mockery from their friends. So they claim the Libertarian cause. They are looking for an out, some way to distance themselves from the Bush administration. They want to remain true to their Conservative ideals, continue to be a card-carrying member of the GOP, but somehow admit that they were wrong.

When Cheney says that the insurgency is "in its last throes" and Rumsfeld says that the "insurgency" (i.e., the continuation of the guerilla war) could last as long as twelve years…even the most die-hard Republican knows that at least one of these men is lying. Nobody bought into a twelve year occupation, a twelve year war. And I think this is the crack we need to exploit.

[bed_of_nails]

Am I wrong in my assumption South Park makes fun of both sides, but especially conservatives?

Look at the Future Immigrant episode and the "They took our jobs!" crap as well as the entire move "Team America: World Police". These are just two of the many blatantly obvious mockery assaults against the Conservative fools.

They do confuse me with their actions contradicting their words.

[Jersey Devil]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 05:45 AM
Am I wrong in my assumption South Park makes fun of both sides, but especially conservatives?

Look at the Future Immigrant episode and the "They took our jobs!" crap as well as the entire move "Team America: World Police". These are just two of the many blatantly obvious mockery assaults against the Conservative fools.

They do confuse me with their actions contradicting their words.
Libertarians are for open borders fool.

[Free Palestine]

Please note that were "libertarian" conceptions implemented, all property would be private, including roads. So immigrants could only enter the country by invitation of the property owner or by paying user fees for roads and other services.

[which doctor]

i dont think they really care about anything much at all

[codyvo]

Well, if I remember correctly, Matt Stone was in Bowling for Columbine, so I think that to be in the movie with Michael Moore he would have to be at least a little left-leaning. They may be libertarians but they make fun of everyone on their show, and even if they were to be conservatives I would still watch and like the show.

[YKTMX]

Aye, but Matt Stone complained afterwards that Moore had edited BFC to make it look as if Stone has contributed a cartoon to it, when he hadn't.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by Jersey Devil+Jul 19 2005, 12:08 AM--> (Jersey Devil @ Jul 19 2005, 12:08 AM)
[email protected] 19 2005, 05:45 AM
Am I wrong in my assumption South Park makes fun of both sides, but especially conservatives?

Look at the Future Immigrant episode and the "They took our jobs!" crap as well as the entire move "Team America: World Police". These are just two of the many blatantly obvious mockery assaults against the Conservative fools.

They do confuse me with their actions contradicting their words.
Libertarians are for open borders fool. [/b]
I too was under the impression that they are libertarians but it is hard to peg down actual position as the libertarian ideology is a paradox. You cannot concentrait power and disolve the state, it is absolute stupidity by self delusion.

[KickMcCann]

I think you are all getting mixed up in the assumption that
liberal/conservative = left/right.

In American culture (a culture created by those on top for specific reasons), liberalism is associated with weakness, flakiness, and indecisiveness. Whereas conservatism is associated with strength, common-sense, and morality. This mentality is the product of bourgeois propagandists dating back to the time of Theodore Roosevelt.
So for the south park guys to disassociate themselves from liberalism inside American culture doesn't make them right-wing, it simply means they don't want to be seen as weak, flaky, and indecisive inside American culture.

According to the popular definition in the states, I would not want to be called a "liberal" either, its a term associated with defeat. I am an ardent leftist, and would want to be seen as a person who has no qualm or quarrel with burning down the mansions of the rich, violently seizing their property, and shooting at them in a revolution.

It has alot to do with sexual identity and security. American men are brought up to be as masculine as possible, which means interested in war, violence, sports, and sex with blonde-haired women. The idea of femininity repels them and makes them insecure. Since Liberalism is associated with feminism, it repels them as well-even if it promotes a better life than conservatism.

Liberalism's real meaning is to be open-minded, progressive, and a promoter of equal rights and a peaceful world. But America is a schizophrenic country where everything is backwards from the rest of the world. It may seem confusing, but that's the nature of the beast, America is a confusing place. :blink:

[Chimpy6]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 12:51 AM
I quote "There's nothing more that I hate than liberals."

From an interview with Trey Parker and Matt Stone. They aren't liberal at all.
[QUOTE]

That doesn't mean shit, I'm the extreme left and i hate liberals, i hate conservatives more, but liberals still suck, all we do is sit around whining about shit and never do anything about it. conservatives are in power cause they don't whine they just yell and then act; we need to do that! i want to love liberals but its just so hard!

[OleMarxco]

Well, one might say somethin' still and try to differ themselves from the liberal-cause. Yet alot of things seems pretty...liberal. No jokin' bout that. But I hate to involve "politics" with'ris - thus - it's all bullshit, they shit on conservatives by awolwin' cussin' and other illegalities in their movies, etc. And it's a broad generalisation that all liberals just whine and conservatives yell and act, in my eyes, it's the other way around - for the MOST part! But'ah, it could always change. Still; Liberals > Conservatives, but Radicals > Liberals ;)

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

The politics of South Park make me sick to my stomach.

They claim to not give a shit about politics and only care about money... but it's very obviously so contrived and a cop-out so they don't have the responsibility of answering to people who question their dogmatic bullshit. And they wanna sound like badasses.

[anomaly]

Who cares about the 'politics' of South Park? It's a funny show! I don't give a shit how the creators of the funny show 'think'. They aren't thinkers, they are entertainers!