This sickens me.

[Che1990]

http://www.rage.net/~greg/files/che-nike.jpg

Sickening. As if printing his face all over t-shirts and selling them at extortionate prices isn't enough, now they replace the star with the logo of one of the biggest capitalist brands around who use appalling sweatshop labour conditions to produce their goods. This makes me sick.

[werewolf]

I've seen some "good" attempts to "update" his popularity, like I've seen some paintball players with versions of his picture.

But that is disgusting :angry:

[Warren Peace]

Nike practically uses slave labor, they pay asian workers 50 cents a day for shit that we pay 50 bucks for. They are also one of the corporations that is capitalizing parts of China, coming in and taking over all the good jobs, then replacing them with shity jobs, ruining the high quality of life that people have under the socialist system. Che would have opposed Nike to the bitter end.

[spartafc]

doesn't suprise me. They have been doing similar things to 'minor threat' cd covers.

[Faceless]

It could be meant as an ironic statement of the commodification of Che's image

indeed, I have used a similar design myself to make that statement


I haven't seen this on an actual nike t-shirt, but if this was created with the intention of it being sold as a nike design then it becomes even more ironic lol. Where did you get this image from? Need to know the context.

[MiniOswald]

ignore it, we do it to their things, they do it to ours

[YKTMX]

I think this picture is probably some attempt at satire by some clever bunny. I doubt it's a real Nike product.

[Alejandro]

Wow i literaly just there up a little...

[Ian]

doesn't look legit

[FriedFrog]

Like Faceless says, its probably irony, like the poster that was posted that had a soviet 'style', but was about Americans.

I cant find the thread, but this was the picture:

[Che1990]

Yeah I know its not a real Nike product, still sickening though!

[MiniOswald]

oh be quiet, whining little buggers, i bet the capitalists dont get so worked up if you put a hammer and sickle on bushes head, stop whinging, I saw someone write 'communism doesnt work' on a slogan about the G8 on a bus stop in liverpool, but i didnt stand there getting sick, i laughed that someone was so bothered but to write over one of our slogans. Poor commie kid was probably broken hearted when he came back

[Anarcho-Communist]

That is absolutely disgusting! How could someone do that!

[Red Heretic]

I suspect it is a crack at how Che is in reality a corporate fad.

Let's face it, Che's ideology was poor at best.

We should be popularizing real leadership like Lenin, Mao, and Prachanda.

[Anarcho-Communist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2005, 07:06 PM
I suspect it is a crack at how Che is in reality a corporate fad.

Let's face it, Che's ideology was poor at best.

We should be popularizing real leadership like Lenin, Mao, and Prachanda.
:o

[Ian]

Prachanda has nothing on Che.

[Che1990]

Mao was a Stalinist murderer. We shouldn&#39;t follow his leadership skills. Ok so he may have been sort of ok until the cultural revolution. Then he caused widespread starvation and killed people who pointed this out to him. Yep, very communist <_<

[Red Heretic]

You sir, obviously know nothing about the cultural revolution: http://rwor.org/a/1251/communism_socialism...china_facts.htm (http://rwor.org/a/1251/communism_socialism_mao_china_facts.htm)

I say these things about Che because Guevaranism is an flawed ideology that alienates the masses, and got Che killed.

Guevaranism advocates the building of a guerilla army without a political party to establish a support base within the masses. What results is a guerilla army that is alienated from the masses and has no capacity to establish socialism. Even if a guerilla army succeeds under Che&#39;s program, that army is still not a revolutionary vangaurd, and at the point of achieving state power, will have done nothing to unleash the power of the masses.

This results in "socialism from the top," meaning, a state forcing socialism down everyones throats.

Che was completely unconscious of these flaws in his ideology, and he even believed he was following a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist programme. Unfortunately, Che never was actually exposed to Maoism, or understood why it is important to build a solid foundation within the masses, depend on the masses, and integrate with the masses.

Nevertheless, his revolutionary determination is still inspiring...

[RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT]

i think its a thoughtful look on the commercializationof his portrait which has been bastardized by capitalist america ..

[Abbigail]

oh my god... that makes me sick.

[MiniOswald]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 08:35 PM
oh my god... that makes me sick.
you people need stronger stomachs

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

Originally posted by MiniOswald+Aug 7 2005, 04:45 PM--> (MiniOswald @ Aug 7 2005, 04:45 PM)
[email protected] 7 2005, 08:35 PM
oh my god... that makes me sick.
you people need stronger stomachs [/b]
LOL

Seriously though, it&#39;s not an actual nike product. No use freaking out about it.

[Patchy]

I suspect it is a crack at how Che is in reality a corporate fad.

Let&#39;s face it, Che&#39;s ideology was poor at best.

We should be popularizing real leadership like Lenin, Mao, and Prachanda.

As cracked and flawed as it may be, I still respect him for his choices in life. No ones perfect, but he went out of his way and left the &#39;good life&#39; behind to help people. Now, he may have done it out of the goodness of his heart, but he may have also done it because he wanted to be some sort of hero, few people would be able to give us an accurate answer to that.

He could have lived a nice life, instead he went out into the shit to help people. I&#39;m not for armed rebellion, but if dictators are mowing down unarmed civilians, talking to them isn&#39;t going to cut it.

Humanity.

[Warren Peace]

Freaky.


Let&#39;s face it, Che&#39;s ideology was poor at best.

We should be popularizing real leadership like Lenin, Mao, and Prachanda.

Hey now, remember, Che admired both Lenin and Mao.

I agree that we should popularize Lenin and Mao, but Prachanda? He&#39;s okay, but there would still be a People&#39;s War in Nepal, with or without Prachanda&#39;s leadership. On the other hand, without Lenin and Mao, Russia and China would have stayed feudal and reactionary.


As cracked and flawed as it may be, I still respect him for his choices in life.

I agree. After all, focoism did work in the Cuban Revolution. Che was a selfless hero, he could have kept living as a powerfull official in the Cuban Government, instead he gave up his life to fight US-backed dictatorships in the Congo and Bolivia.

[rioters bloc]

chill all, it&#39;s in all likelihood a joke

and even if it isnt, so what? the communists get worked up abt it but get over it eventually. the nike kids think what the fuck is this, whos this guy, maybe they look into it and find out who he is and what he stood for and boycott nike

save your anger and frustration and pent-up energy for the revolution

this shit isnt worth it

[Zingu]

Wasen&#39;t there riots that made Nike take the word "Revolution" off their brand a long time ago?

(Hint, hint)

[Subpar]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2005, 08:31 PM
doesn&#39;t suprise me. They have been doing similar things to &#39;minor threat&#39; cd covers.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-06/23.shtml

[PRC-UTE]

I&#39;m pretty sure it&#39;s a farce mocking the commodification of Che.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I suspect it is a crack at how Che is in reality a corporate fad.

Let&#39;s face it, Che&#39;s ideology was poor at best.

We should be popularizing real leadership like Lenin, Mao, and Prachanda.

Prachanda :lol:

You forgot "Avakian"

[poster_child]

This pic makes a lot of sense. Che is a product now. He is on more t-shirts than I could ever count. It&#39;s "cool" to be a Che follower.

This is what this pic is trying to get across. It&#39;s good art.

[Che1990]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 31 2005, 03:54 PM
You sir, obviously know nothing about the cultural revolution: http://rwor.org/a/1251/communism_socialism...china_facts.htm (http://rwor.org/a/1251/communism_socialism_mao_china_facts.htm)

I say these things about Che because Guevaranism is an flawed ideology that alienates the masses, and got Che killed.

Guevaranism advocates the building of a guerilla army without a political party to establish a support base within the masses. What results is a guerilla army that is alienated from the masses and has no capacity to establish socialism. Even if a guerilla army succeeds under Che&#39;s program, that army is still not a revolutionary vangaurd, and at the point of achieving state power, will have done nothing to unleash the power of the masses.

This results in "socialism from the top," meaning, a state forcing socialism down everyones throats.

Che was completely unconscious of these flaws in his ideology, and he even believed he was following a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist programme. Unfortunately, Che never was actually exposed to Maoism, or understood why it is important to build a solid foundation within the masses, depend on the masses, and integrate with the masses.

Nevertheless, his revolutionary determination is still inspiring...
You obviously haven&#39;t read Guerrilla Warfare.