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redstar2000
14th July 2005, 18:11
Originally posted by BBC
Rail killing charges thrown out

Charges against five rail bosses accused of the manslaughter of four people who died in the Hatfield train disaster have been thrown out.

A corporate manslaughter charge against engineering firm Balfour Beatty was also dismissed by the Old Bailey judge.

When opening the case, prosecutor Richard Lissack QC said a faulty rail at the crash site had been identified 21 months before the crash and was left unrepaired.

He also said speed restrictions were not imposed in the area of the faulty rail and alleged that Balfour Beatty had been getting "seriously behind in remedying defects on the line".

The accident in Hatfield, on 17 October 2000, happened when the London to Leeds express came off the tracks at 115 mph.

It was derailed by a cracked section of rail leaving four dead and more than 100 injured.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/uk_news/4681891.stm

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Publius
14th July 2005, 18:26
I don't know enough about the particular case, but negligance should result in a manslaughter conviction.

silentprotest
14th July 2005, 18:43
dear god, cant this justice system get anything right? :blink:

Professor Moneybags
15th July 2005, 14:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 05:26 PM
I don't know enough about the particular case, but negligance should result in a manslaughter conviction.
The government was deliberately bankrupting Railtrack in an attempt to re-nationalise the rail industry. What you see here is more government cronyism coupled with the characterictic New Labour incompetence. The rail system is going the same way as that wonderful "Millenium Dome" that cost the taxpayers millions.

Publius
15th July 2005, 15:43
The government was deliberately bankrupting Railtrack in an attempt to re-nationalise the rail industry. What you see here is more government cronyism coupled with the characterictic New Labour incompetence. The rail system is going the same way as that wonderful "Millenium Dome" that cost the taxpayers millions.

So it's a debacle in the AMTRAK way?

Invader Zim
15th July 2005, 16:40
Originally posted by Professor Moneybags+Jul 15 2005, 02:36 PM--> (Professor Moneybags @ Jul 15 2005, 02:36 PM)
[email protected] 14 2005, 05:26 PM
I don't know enough about the particular case, but negligance should result in a manslaughter conviction.
The government was deliberately bankrupting Railtrack in an attempt to re-nationalise the rail industry. What you see here is more government cronyism coupled with the characterictic New Labour incompetence. The rail system is going the same way as that wonderful "Millenium Dome" that cost the taxpayers millions. [/b]

You have just proved that you know absolutely nothing about the subject. the government had no intention to re-nationalise the rail industry and they still have not, indeed yet the industry (with the exception of part of rail track (network rail)) is still privatised and it is intended that the government release control to the hands of network rail. To suggestt hat the government deliberatly bankrupted Rail Track is pure garbage, the government spent millions and millions of pounds in an attempt to save rail track and subsidise the rail companies.

The government has also had a massive campaign across the board, in privatising the British public sector.

Andy Bowden
15th July 2005, 16:59
How can the Govt "bankrupt" railtrack? Why should the govt have given a grant to railtrack anyway? The point of a Private company is that they make their own money, not that we subsidise them. Isn't that the basic point of Privatisation?

Professor Moneybags
15th July 2005, 20:58
Originally posted by Andy [email protected] 15 2005, 03:59 PM
How can the Govt "bankrupt" railtrack? Why should the govt have given a grant to railtrack anyway?
Railtrack wasn't this government's idea, it was the conservative's. It was partially run by subsidies because it sucked.


The point of a Private company is that they make their own money, not that we subsidise them. Isn't that the basic point of Privatisation?

Yes, but I don't honestly think it is possible make the British Rail system break even, never mind run at a profit as it is at the moment. But I haven't studied it enough to make a proper comment.


the government had no intention to re-nationalise the rail industry and they still have not,

Because nationalization = "Old Labour" = unelectable. Tony knows the score.

Invader Zim
15th July 2005, 22:52
Because nationalization = "Old Labour" = unelectable. Tony knows the score.

Then you have just contradicted your self.

Andy Bowden
15th July 2005, 23:42
Actually, there is now a sizeable majority for the Renationalisation of rail (In Scotland at least). A system 3 poll for The Herald found in 2004 that 67% supported renationalisation.

Professor Moneybags
16th July 2005, 12:23
Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 09:52 PM


Because nationalization = "Old Labour" = unelectable. Tony knows the score.

Then you have just contradicted your self.
Jesus... :rolleyes: New Labour works by stealth. It taxes by stealth and expands the government by stealth. It renationalizes by stealth too.

Andy Bowden
16th July 2005, 15:14
The fact it's privatising the ownership of schools and hospitals with PFI is very stealthy as well I suppose?

kingbee
23rd July 2005, 09:32
er.... are you being ironic about "renationalising by stealth"?

Invader Zim
28th July 2005, 20:08
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 09:32 AM
er.... are you being ironic about "renationalising by stealth"?
No, just ignorant.

Professor Moneybags
29th July 2005, 15:01
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 07:08 PM
No, just ignorant.
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