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which doctor
12th July 2005, 18:27
Does anyone know who will run for president on the republican ticket? All I hear about is the democrats. I know the election is a long ways off but i was just wondering.

and fyi I will be supporting Evan Bayh senator from my own state, indiana, for president in the 2008 election.

Sir Aunty Christ
12th July 2005, 18:40
More conservative than Clinton hmm. Is he the best of a bad bunch?

Jersey Devil
12th July 2005, 18:49
Possibly Frist, he's been trying to show "leadership" as the Senate Majority leader especially by threatening the launch of the nuclear option, though of course this was undermined by the Gang of 14. Thus he is a favorite of conservative interest groups.

Delay, and conservatives directly associated with him probably won't have a chance. The Democrats have been heavily attacking him and with possible ethics violations and Jack Abramoff's stealing of money from Indian Casinos. It seems unlikely that Delay associated Republicans will get the Republican nomination.

Guys like McCain seem unlikely as well. The conservative interest groups would destroy them for their moderate records.

Then again, it could be some random/unknown Republican.

Still though, it is to early to tell.

Anarchist Freedom
12th July 2005, 19:11
cheney.

Pawn Power
12th July 2005, 19:22
some asshole

novemba
12th July 2005, 21:48
Originally posted by Anarchist [email protected] 12 2005, 06:11 PM
cheney.
yep.

Jersey Devil
12th July 2005, 22:16
Cheney is not going to run in '08. This has already been well known.

YKTMX
12th July 2005, 22:21
I can't see Dick running - he's about the only man in the administration who's less popular than the President.

Personally, I think it'll be Guiliani versus Clinton. John McCain is a possibility for GOP but I think he's ran for nomination before. Personally, I'd like to see Edwards run for Dems. He's got a bit of a "JFK" thing going on and he could do some damage in the South, which the Democrats need badly if they are going win.

I hope Jeb Bush runs for the Republicans, 'cos he'd get a fucking hiding against any decent Dem candidate.

Warren Peace
12th July 2005, 22:26
some asshole

:lol: Even if it's to early to tell, that's the one thing we can say for sure.

bolshevik butcher
12th July 2005, 22:27
Dean should run. He had some quite good policies, well comapred to anyone else running. I think it really displayed media bias the way he was targetted. They could easilly do the same stuff to bush, but hey chose not to.

Jersey Devil
12th July 2005, 22:31
Dean can not run. He is the head of the DNC, that automatically makes him ineligable to run for the Democratic nomination. Furthermore, Dean was somewhat of a moderate when he was governor of Vermont (though this is mainly because the state budget deperately needed to be balanced), he did indeed campaign on a "left of the party;non-Washington" platform and probably would have governed on what he campaigned on. The most progressive of the past Democratic canidates was Kucinich, who is a prominent member (co-chair) of the Progressive Caucus in Congress.

bolshevik butcher
12th July 2005, 22:46
Is Kucinich going to be running in 2008?

Jersey Devil
12th July 2005, 22:58
I am not sure, he may very well run. Biden has been the only Democrat so far to explictly say he will run for the Democratic nomination. Though, a bunch of other Democrats are obviously "campaigning" or preparing to campaign but just haven't come out and said that they will run. Fiengold has a website called "Feingold08.org", Bayh has already hired guys that worked in the Kerry and Clark campaigns, I saw Richardson the other day giving a speech in New Hampshire on C-Span (he is a Senator from New Mexico), etc...

Super Mario Conspiracy
12th July 2005, 23:43
Nobody will run - Bush will declare himself as the Holy Emperor of America, and USA will be renamed to the Empire of America. :D

(Oh, and by the way, the capital will move to his ranch in Texas)

Paul R
13th July 2005, 00:31
Originally posted by Super Mario [email protected] 12 2005, 10:43 PM
Nobody will run - Bush will declare himself as the Holy Emperor of America, and USA will be renamed to the Empire of America. :D

(Oh, and by the way, the capital will move to his ranch in Texas)
he he lol :D

I would agree with an earlier post. I think that Edwards should run as I feel more people in America could relate to him.

novemba
13th July 2005, 03:38
Dean should run

Dean is honest (more so than other politicians) and he speaks about issue that he genuinely cares about. That doesn't sound like an America President to me!

Edwards...lawyer...meh...reppin North Cackylacky...word up

Anyways, vote for who you like, not who will beat the republicans...theyre all pretty much the same anyways...

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har har.

novemba
13th July 2005, 03:42
damn whats up with that script?

Le People
13th July 2005, 03:54
I tell you that Cheney is too old, and too unlikeable to run. His best friend's a pace maker. I think that It's going to be a neo-con, or a "Christian" conservetive. Frist,Delay, or Santorum.

redstar2000
13th July 2005, 03:57
Haven't you folks figured out yet that debating the "merits" of presidential candidates is like rooting for your favorite character in a dummyvision soap opera?

They are all actors in a show.

You cannot possibly know what they "really" think or have any idea at all what they will really do if "elected" to the presidency.

What you should know is that whatever the successful candidate does, it will be something horribly reactionary.

That's the only permitted option in late American capitalism.

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PS: if you use Firefox as your browser, do not use the "tab" key...that's what generates the "&nsbp" error. And if it does show up in your post, please consider the readers and edit it out. Thanks.

Commie Girl
13th July 2005, 03:58
i have heard rumblings of Jeb Bu$h.... :lol:

coda
13th July 2005, 04:12
haha!!!! you crack me up RedStar!!!!! and you have no idea how fucking bummed out I've been today.. but I got a good laugh at "debating the merits is like rooting for your favorite character in a dummyvision soap opera." haaaaaaha. Oh where do you come up with these!!!!!? I'm gonna go read some more of your posts to get an endorphin blast.

Le People
13th July 2005, 04:30
Indigo, laugh all you want. It anit a joke. The GOP is controled by men in a back room who control purse strings. If you are a represntitve of the GOP, and you don't play along, they'll not back, and they'll destroy you. In that back room you have holy rollers, money grubers, and activists. THey will evnetualy turn on each other, NRA against Pro Life, Moderate against extreme, and it will implode, breaking up into little parties with no sway. The Democrats will have the power, which I don't mind too much, but it could be our chance to seize sway in Washington! Maybe we can take some notes on Hugo Chavez right now, so we know what to do when this happens.

coda
13th July 2005, 04:37
huh????? Oh.. RS's comment just struck me as funny. -- the way he words things. Just hit me out of the blue. I've been in a lousy mood, so it was unexpected. good stuff, though.

yes, I know how those fucking elections work.. I've lived through 10 of them and eligible to vote in 6 of them. I didn't vote in any of them though, except one. and voted for the Socialist Workers party, which later I heard was the Moaist party! elections aren't the way to go.

Le People
13th July 2005, 04:41
Indigo, sorry for being curt. I am very pashinate that's all. Never say elections don't work. If you do, say by, by to freedom and hello to facsism. Socailist Worker's Party's Maoist? Man, that sucks.

coda
13th July 2005, 04:49
ahh.. it was actually the Worker's World Party, Maoist. 1996, Monica Moorehead was running --- a female minority commie, so it looked good to me.

Le People
13th July 2005, 04:53
This is off subject but, I have a dicussion opened up in theory under Democratic Centalism, would any like to join. I'm bored.

coda
13th July 2005, 05:17
wait a minute. I just noticed your Mao signature!!

Anyway. I don't see elections as changing anything... just a vollying of the same conservative issues back and forth between the parties. As long as their are political parties and states and power.. there is going to be war and poverty and capitalism. That the interest of the party state.

Le People
13th July 2005, 05:20
At the time of the signature that was the only thing I could think of. You are proposeing a revoulotion to reach statelessness. All a revoulotion is, is a big violent election. ;)

redstar2000
13th July 2005, 05:28
Thank you for your praise, Indigo...I'm glad that you like the way I phrase things. :D

But, you know, people take all this "election" crap soooo seriously...and it's like the half-time show at the superbowl. *Yawns*

If ordinary people are raising hell in the streets...then progressive change may be possible within capitalist society -- though, in my opinion, it becomes less and less possible as capitalism ages.

If most people are just sitting in front of their dummyvision sets in an imaginary romp through the green fields of capitalism, then everything will just get steadily worse.

Elections are completely irrelevant -- insofar as we notice them, we should attack them as fake.

It's what they are.

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codyvo
13th July 2005, 05:39
Originally posted by Commie [email protected] 13 2005, 02:58 AM
i have heard rumblings of Jeb Bu$h.... :lol:
Unfortunately I live in his state, and I am almost positive he will be the republican candidate for the 2008 election. A lot of people think that Condoleeza Rice may run, but I can't see the republicans running a black woman.

I disagree with those of you that say that elections are pointless, even in capitalist america, we could accomplish much if a non-republican non-democrat was elected and if he had congress, even if he didn't it would do some good.

Paradox
13th July 2005, 06:01
i have heard rumblings of Jeb Bu$h.... :lol:

I have heard rumblings of WHO [email protected]#*ING CARES!!!

I don't give a shit who the GOP candidate will be, or the Democratic candidate. They're both freakin' capitalists!!! Why are we caring about this??? They're just varying in their degrees of stupidity and brutality. But they're on the SAME DAMN SIDE.

coda
13th July 2005, 06:07
Hell yeah!!!! they're as fake as a penis implant.

I can't bring myself to do it anymore. None of them represent me. and I have to live with myself the next day.

yeah, thanks for the good laughs, RS. you saved my life!!!! I was getting ready to sharpen the knife and cut my own throat. It was a bad day..
Not so bad anymore!

Paradox
13th July 2005, 06:12
they're as fake as a penis implant.

:o :lol: :lol: :lol:

WTF!!?!! I have no idea what that is, and I don't want to know!

Xtreme
13th July 2005, 06:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 05:01 AM

i have heard rumblings of Jeb Bu$h.... :lol:

I have heard rumblings of WHO [email protected]#*ING CARES!!!

I don't give a shit who the GOP candidate will be, or the Democratic candidate. They're both freakin' capitalists!!! Why are we caring about this??? They're just varying in their degrees of stupidity and brutality. But they're on the SAME DAMN SIDE.
Finally something I can agree with here.