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Herebeorht
28th October 2002, 02:24
choosing from 1 dictator as in places like Cuba and choosing from 5 dictators as in places like america is the same. The only difference is that to the human mind it appears that having a choice about nothing is better than having no choice about anything. That is why places like america are so succesful without forced labor or without visible forced labor.

Conghaileach
28th October 2002, 18:12
"Hobson's choice" is the idea that we believe we have many choices while we actually only have none.

j
29th October 2002, 04:40
The problem or difference between a dictatorship and America is simple. A dictatorship knows who its dictator is. They know the media is controlled by this person. They know this man/woman controls everything. America has a dictatorship of the dollar or corporate dictatorship. Those that we elect are pawns for the corporations. The corporations make the real decisions here. Except Americans don't know the dictatorship exists and insist on believing that they live in a free democracy. At least those living in a dictatorship know it.

j

Libertarius
29th October 2002, 06:14
America is made out to be a land of oppurtunity (that's been preached for decades). The truth is, there are many impoverished, exploited proletariat in the USA, they are just not given much media attention. I think it's safe to say that i'm anti-corporation, because they oppress the working class in every way.

The working class is just another commodity, and so is vulnerable to all the fluctuations of the market. The difference between the working class and a bar of soap, though, is that the working class is an enormous mass of concious minds, ever gaining knowledge and learning the truth about it's oppressors. No, history has proven that systems like this are overthrown.

Commandante Smit
29th October 2002, 20:56
The American system will never be overthrown because too many safeguards have been put up. The "representatives" of the people have put up as many barriers as possible to prevent the people actually getting a say.

What sickens me most is that America is not just a dictatorship within its own borders, but a dictatorship which controls the world. Look at the global economy; it is dominated by the American culture and brand. It makes me sad to see on travel programmes, a MacDonalds in a culturally rich South American town.

America controls British foreign policy (I'm British btw) and this makes my blood boil. If it wasnt enuff being powerless in my own country, its worse that those holding us down here are controlled by more imperialist scum. Its like the power is slipping further and further away.

The only solution is for Britain to join the Euro and finally become fully integrated into Europe (the final power to do so) and for an eventual stand off to occur between Europe and the US. After its all over, we can reconstruct a fairer world free of the hypocrasy and imperialism of both the US and the EU. Then dictatorships can truly end and democracy and choice can begin.

Kehoe
29th October 2002, 22:27
The American socio-political system is one of an autocratic apparatus controlled by corporate interests ... it is by no means a democracy.

Kehoe
29th October 2002, 22:34
One other point ... Libertarius had mentioned in an earlier post that America is made out to be a land of oppurtunity ... opportunity in this case should be pronouced Operative Tyranny.

Herebeorht
31st October 2002, 02:37
I just brought this up because i live in america at the moment and go to schools here and I am sick of them advertising the american government to us who are so easily brainwashed. (i am only 13 and still have to go to school). i have become very frustrated about things like this lately because at school we are studying the american revolution(really the first american civil war). It is horrible how they brainwash us. Two days ago they showed us a movie that must have been highly influenced by 1984(the book).